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They still have a commitment to their stock holders (namely me in this case) to earn money and increase the worth of their stok for people who invested in them while they were a small company in need of money.
 
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well u know the company is owned by stockholders, all profit (thats profit not revinue) is split up between the stockholders. obviously the owner of the company will have at least majority shares, usually around 60%. the rest is owned by private investors, so for the owners of the company to make money at all they have to split profit between stockholders.
 
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Please tell me how the stock market, I obviously do not have over 10 years investing or anything on my side. Please, tell me all about your vast and extensive experiance.
 
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well i never claimed to know alot, that is all i learnt from business studies GSCE. im sure there is more detail and whatever but im fairly sure what i wrote is true, at least some of it is true. but if you want me to go into more detail i will...

say you own a resturant and it will probably make at least $75,000 this year, you know that from your history with the business. so you can think of the restaurant as an investment that will pay out something like £75,000 in interest every year. looking at it this way, someone might be willing to pay £750,000 for the restaurant, as a £75,000 return per year on a £750,000 investment represents a 10% rate of return. someone might even be willing to pay £1,500,000, which represents a 5% rate of return, or more if they thought that the restaurants income would grow and increase earnings over time at a rate faster than the rate of inflation.

the restaurants owner will set the price accordingly. u might price the restaurant at £1,500,000. what if 10 people come to you and say, "wow, i would like to buy your restaurant but i dont have £1,500,000." you might want to somehow divide your restaurant into 10 equal pieces and sell each piece for £150,000. in other words, you might sell shares in the restaurant. then, each person who bought a share would receive one-tenth of the profits at the end of the year, and each person would have one out of 10 votes in any business decisions or, you might divide ownership up into 1,500 shares and sell each share for $1,000 to make the price something that more people could afford. or you might divide ownership up into 3,000 shares, keep 1,500 for yourself, and sell the remaining shares for $500 each. that way, you retain a majority of the shares (and the votes) and remain in control of the restaurant while sharing the profit with other people. in the meantime, you get to put £750,000 in the bank when you sell the 1,500 shares to other people.

stock at its core represents ownership of a companys assets and profits. a dividend (payment) on a share of stock represents that shares portion of the companys profits, normally paid yearly. if the restaurant has 10 owners, each owning one share of stock, and the restaurant makes £75,000 in profit during the year, then each owner gets a dividend of £7,500. a large company like IBM has millions of shares of stock outstanding. in this case, the total profits of the company are divided between those millions and sent to the shareholders as dividends.

also you spelt experience wrong.
 
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Malufa said:
I was speaking to Shados :p


I noticed, but I was more speaking less of the actual owners of the companies, and more of small-time private investors, who are likely own much less than even 1% of a large multinational company like Blizzard. Yes, they do make money for their stockholders but do you think it is their intent to make that money for private investors or for their board of directors? And the head honcho's themselves get paid ridiculous amounts by the company they own, if they were doing it for all their stockholders, not just themselves, then they might instead leave alot more of their salaries as their company's money. And Malufa, I thought I heard you say somewhere that you were in your 20's, so you've been investing since your early teens???


EDIT: Hey, so DnL is apparently released now, right? So where in hell do I download it, I haven't been sent anything and I don't see anything on the site, =/
 
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well the company makes money for all the shareholders. thats the majority shareholders and those that only own a small amount. a company sells shares publicly specifically because it makes more money. companies do not have to sell shares publicly, they could be different types of company (this is where i forget my GCSE knowledge) as a Ltd or a Plc (i think one is right), which give shares to private people like family members and partners. however, that no money is made. so in actual fact companies like having small investors and they like their shareholders because they make the company money.
 
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Shados: It got pushed back to May 19 :( Still got a couple of bugs to work out on crafting and level advancing I think is what I read. Go to www.darkandlight.net but all you can do at this point is preorder, which still gives you a griphon when you start so it is pretty cool.

Dan: Companies start private so they get things done their own ways and not according to other people. When they give their stck to their employees (common tactic which is bad in the long run for the company but 95% of them do it because they are stupid) you are correct in that they are giving away basically prmise notes or IOUs. Then when they go public (assuming they last long enough) the employees stock is suddenly worth money and they can either sell it out or keep it and own a literal part of the company.

About the chairmen: Yes they like big salaries, but that does not affect the cost or value of stock shares, profitablity of stocks is deptermined primarily by market mood for how much it is worth and how much people are willing to pay for it. That is why penny-stocks (stocks worth .01 to .99 cents) rarely turn too much of a profit and how blue chip stock goes for a near impossibly high share value.

Yes, I started investing in the share market since I was about 15, almost a decade ago.
 
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If it were illegal would I have the job I have now?

Dark and Light has been postponed until the 30th of May, so this gives you guys a chance to read up on it and look into greater depth. So far here are the confirmed classes of my friends that will be playing (of these names you will recognize only me and possibly my twin if you have been here long enough):

Me: Ranger
Emil: Ranger (yes we will have identical characters to maintain our real life selves)
Rob: Theif
Blake: Mage
Chad: Healer

I have several more who say they will play but have not yet bought the game nor gave me a definate answer yet. In fact there might be a full guild of 30ish people joining us if Rob's friends come in too.
 
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