Dalaran Siege

[Moderator]

18:55, 25th Feb 2011
-Kobas-:
Status: Approved
Can be interesting for play.
It is unique for sure.
Item drops are still bad. (Use random items)

 

[light bolt30]

I don't find this map very balanced:
-Players cannot have more than one base due to no extra goldmines, therefore they cannot expand
-Terrain is pretty plain and simple
-Some players may get attacked by a few players at once due to poor placement of starting position; some players are between two others while some are placed next to one
Also some screenshots will be nice.

 

[ksStr]

Hi there LightBolt30, this map encourages early game, so expanding is quite not possible, tactic is better. About the location, it is just too bad if one stuck in the middle of two guy..

 

[kevlamin]

Why are there 4 players when theres 5 start locations
I agree with light bolt30 about the bad start locations

 

[ksStr]

Why are there 4 players when theres 5 start locations
I agree with light bolt30 about the bad start locations

oops~, thats a big mistake, thanks
About the location, I can't do much about it now

 

[Great Chief Aeon]

I Dont Understanted how exactly this map is... is some kind of Hero Siege? City Siege? or something? (im not being offensive)

 

[zheavy]

I Dont Understanted how exactly this map is... is some kind of Hero Siege? City Siege? or something? (im not being offensive)

Hello,

It's a Melee map, normal warcraft 3 building mode, nothing special about it.

As for the map itself i find it interesting if u made it a 4 player mode, and left the gold mine in middle empty or replaced it with something else, such as a very hard boss with a very good item drop maybe [custom item that is], just a suggestion, because they do have a point with the bad placement and it is a very small map, so it's only for players with great tactics and fast play.

Regards.
- zheavy -

 

[Great Chief Aeon]

Oks

But these simple maps hardly are approved, because is far too simple... try to do another map...
Im not saying that our map is ridiculous or something, i am not saying that you need to do a map of expert map makers... i just saying, to (as normally i do) choose a gamemode type, then chose name, terrain type, then create units, abilities, itens, then upload here, make a good discription, and vuala xD
Have a simple, but good map...
You only can do maps of "Elite" making several maps, stunding in the Warcraft 3 sites, etc... a LOT of things i knew about the Gameplay constants and Gameplay interface (Advanced in World Editor) was tleno who explained to me, and offcourse, credits are going to him because of it...

I just waiting my father leave the computer to test the map...

 

[ksStr]

Thanks for the ideas guys~!

 

[kevlamin]

Hmm simple fix but it works
I like it heaps more now =D

 

[-Kobas-]

Fix item drops, calculate shadows and so on...
Things that I said for your 1 melee map should be done in all!

Trees gold mine and units are simple Copy and Pasted
Idea is cool but you need to work more on it...

Btw trees are placed like this:


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[ksStr]

Okay... fixed & improved all of that

 

[-W3SK3R-]

btw trees are placed like this:


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instead of:

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what? :d

 

[kevlamin]

>.< @DemigoD don't be an ass what -Kobas- mentioned has already been fixed and whats more you quite obviously added those extra lines...

 

[Great Chief Aeon]

Thats because he read only -Kobas- Comment, and dont readed the KsStr's Comment just down Kobas's comment saying:

"Okay... fixed & improved all of that"

 

[kevlamin]

still the extra lines are unnecessary and quite obviously intentionally added

 

[Vengeancekael]

Thats because he read only -Kobas- Comment, and dont readed the KsStr's Comment just down Kobas's comment saying:

"Okay... fixed & improved all of that"

That just made my day.

Also what's with the empty spot on the right side of the second screenshot?

 

[-W3SK3R-]

I just copied the text i didn't add nothing. -.-

 

[ksStr]

That just made my day.

Also what's with the empty spot on the right side of the second screenshot?

I'm not sure why there's such a big space there, I used THW's album to upload
any ideas?

 

[-Kobas-]

Please guys

DEMIGOD123
Quote can't copy transparency color so you can see
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Vengeancekael
Code in map description is ok dunno what happened...

 

[kevlamin]

Oh sorry then

 

[Tastingo]

if you want to make it more even for the middle players you should put teleports at bottom and top. That way the top can attack the bottom, and the bottom can attack the top. Just an idea .

 

[-BLOOD_BATH-]

What's the matters with the description?
There are many codes visible like [color&quot;19298(meh)], etc, or this is only me that can saw that?

 

[ksStr]

Oops, I dono how that happens but it's just became like that after I updated it..
Gonna fix it soon..

 

[Wazzz]

I like the look of this map, would be great for 2v2 imo
As for people raging that there's only one gold mine, suck it up princess. It's an interesting change to the gameplay, and promotes holding the choke. Although the strategies for this map are somewhat limited, they are different to what would be normally applicable in more traditional melee maps, which calls for some interesting matches imo (although I personally don't like playing the melee Warcraft game).

 

[XPQJ]

the waygate was a very nice balancer, the idea is interesting by the terrain is still very flat and plain, I would suggest making it a bit better. Almost reminds me of fastest micro jail from starcraft 1 xD

 

[Marc Mamales]

Awesome terrain, and i think its balanced.

 

[Darth_Malak]

Description =>3/5 (Too short. You should describe your map maybe. But you got screenshots. It's an melee map so i just got 5 points for this one)

Gameplay => 8/10 (Kinda funny. I like it but maybe you should try to make a mine for every player. That's important for normal Ladder Games, but still i like your idea with the portals)

Script => -/- (Melee map - no script needed)

Terrain => 6/10 (Not the best point for your map , i think you should work on that. The terrain in the bases just looks like random use of your brush, you should make something that looks more like a real ladder map. The rest looks simple but not bad.)

AI => -/- (Standard Melee AI)

Total: 17/25 [ Mark 2-3 ] (1 is best and 6 is worst) I will rate it with Recommended, but you still have to work on it (Y)

[+] Pretty balanced with the portals
[+] Good for fast ladder games.
[+/-] Terrain (You should work on that point)
[-] Every player needs an extra mine, the golden rule of ladder maps!

 

[Andykiller]

Hi there LightBolt30, this map encourages early game, so expanding is quite not possible, tactic is better. About the location, it is just too bad if one stuck in the middle of two guy..

I don't find this map very balanced:
-Players cannot have more than one base due to no extra goldmines, therefore they cannot expand
-Terrain is pretty plain and simple
-Some players may get attacked by a few players at once due to poor placement of starting position; some players are between two others while some are placed next to one
Also some screenshots will be nice.

Why are there 4 players when theres 5 start locations

Proff that this map is not a good Melee Map

 

[kevlamin]

All of the above has been fixed. Please learn to read the entire thread before posting random stuff like that...