Can buildings train units and sell items?

[deafir]

I made a structure/building unit. I want it to sell items and train units. The problem is as soon as i train a unit it appears to black out the items it sells. Did i miss something obvious? Or is this not possible? If so any suggestions on a way around this?

The item is based off "Rune of dispel magic".

If i used a purchase unit system it would mess up several of my maps triggers.
"Unit - A unit Finishes training a unit"
I believe this trigger will not work if the building sells the units.

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

I made a structure/building unit. I want it to sell items and train units. The problem is as soon as i train a unit it appears to black out the items it sells. Did i miss something obvious? Or is this not possible? If so any suggestions on a way around this?

The item is based off "Rune of dispel magic".

If i used a purchase unit system it would mess up several of my maps triggers.
"Unit - A unit Finishes training a unit"
I believe this trigger will not work if the building sells the units.

use a tree ent or other elf building with uproot.

when rooted the building sells items, when up uprooted it trains units.

I've encounter the same problem you are experiencing now. for some reason buildings can train and upgrade units without a problem, but it can't sell items and train units

 

[deafir]

use a tree ent or other elf building with uproot.

when rooted the building sells items, when up uprooted it trains units.

I've encounter the same problem you are experiencing now. for some reason buildings can train and upgrade units without a problem, but it can't sell items and train units

Thanks for the suggestion, sadly this one will defiantly not work for my situation. The building needs to be able to do both at the same time. Any other ideas?

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

Thanks for the suggestion, sadly this one will defiantly not work for my situation. The building needs to be able to do both at the same time. Any other ideas?

Give the building a spell book, in the spell book it can sell items.

That way the system for selling items will be separate from the training units screen, hopefully this will mean neither will disappear

 

[deafir]

Give the building a spell book, in the spell book it can sell items.

That way the system for selling items will be separate from the training units screen, hopefully this will mean neither will disappear

I do not understand what you mean by this? How would you sell items through a spell book? From my understanding spell books can only hold abilities?

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

I do not understand what you mean by this? How would you sell items through a spell book? From my understanding spell books can only hold abilities?

Give the ability, sell item to the spell book

see if it works

 

[deafir]

Give the ability, sell item to the spell book

see if it works

Is this supposed to crash WC3 i did what you said.
1.Add "sell items" to a spell book.
2.add said spell book to a building.
Result: Crashed on loading?

 

[deafir]

• Building refresh
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Cancels training a unit
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Unit - Replace (Triggering unit) with a (Unit-type of (Triggering unit)) using The old unit's relative life and mana

So far this is my solution its not great. But it does allow the building to sell items after units have been trained.
The only problem i can see is that the building would lose all its buffs.

 

[Daffa]

They should only black out when units are being trained if memory preserves.
Use unit enter region and set the region to playable map area and you can catch sold unit.

 

[deafir]

They should only black out when units are being trained if memory preserves.
Use unit enter region and set the region to playable map area and you can catch sold unit.

Even after you stop or finish training the items remain blacked out. Some type of refresh is the simplest way to fix it that Ive found so far but it does still pose a couple of problems.

If i use Unit enters region i lose the ability to target the unit doing the training with the trigger correct?

I will post my trigger at a later time so it makes more sense but in any case the trigger targets both the unit being trained and doing the training.

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

Is this supposed to crash WC3 i did what you said.
1.Add "sell items" to a spell book.
2.add said spell book to a building.
Result: Crashed on loading?

You are supposed to disable the tech tree of the spell book in the start of the game using a trigger
This will not crash the game

 

[Dehua_Darbuya]

You are supposed to disable the tech tree of the spell book in the start of the game using a trigger
This will not crash the game

Can confirm; this will crash the game either when the building with the spell book is about to start construction (as shown in my test map) or before the map completes loading if there is a preplaced building with the ability.

Edit: Try building a Barrack to trigger the crash.

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

Can confirm; this will crash the game either when the building with the spell book is about to start construction (as shown in my test map) or before the map completes loading if there is a preplaced building with the ability.

maybe uses uproot. it makes the building us it's unit abilities when uprooted

I'll be home tonight. I'll try it out then

 

[deafir]

maybe uses uproot. it makes the building us it's unit abilities when uprooted

I'll be home tonight. I'll try it out then

I recall the uproot idea being less user friendly then my solution. When a player cancels training it "refreshes" the building by replacing it. first problem the player has to re select the building afterwards i guess i could look into forcing the selection afterwards. Second problem the building loses all buffs. Third problem anything currently targeting the building would lose its target. Still i feel this works better than the uproot thing at least from my attempts with it.

Can confirm; this will crash the game either when the building with the spell book is about to start construction (as shown in my test map) or before the map completes loading if there is a preplaced building with the ability.

Thank you for testing this so we can confirm spells books simply cannot contain sell items. Well of course you could use dummies and trigger the whole thing which would be fine for a couple items or maybe a shop but for a whole set of shops this would get ridiculous.

So the spell book idea is a no go.
I will give the uproot another try.
I am thinking refreshing the building is the best option but there may be another way to refresh a unit without replacing it. Maybe like a dummy version of Mirror image? i will try a couple things. Any suggestions?

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

I recall the uproot idea being less user friendly then my solution. When a player cancels training it "refreshes" the building by replacing it. first problem the player has to re select the building afterwards i guess i could look into forcing the selection afterwards. Second problem the building loses all buffs. Third problem anything currently targeting the building would lose its target. Still i feel this works better than the uproot thing at least from my attempts with it.



Thank you for testing this so we can confirm spells books simply cannot contain sell items. Well of course you could use dummies and trigger the whole thing which would be fine for a couple items or maybe a shop but for a whole set of shops this would get ridiculous.

So the spell book idea is a no go.
I will give the uproot another try.
I am thinking refreshing the building is the best option but there may be another way to refresh a unit without replacing it. Maybe like a dummy version of Mirror image? i will try a couple things. Any suggestions?

Do you have to train units from the place?
I found that you can purchase units and it won't interfere with the item's sold ability

 

[Dehua_Darbuya]

Do you have to train units from the place?
I found that you can purchase units and it won't interfere with the item's sold ability

But wouldn't that remove the training of the units?

P.S.: Forgot to mention, in my test map you're meant to try and build a Barrack to trigger the crash.

 

[deafir]

Do you have to train units from the place?
I found that you can purchase units and it won't interfere with the item's sold ability

I am aware that its no problem to sell items and sell units. I just wanted to find out if it was possible to sell items and train units, since ideally i would like it to work that way.

 

[xXxHeLLxXx_]

What about , creating dummy unit ( shop ) and give abillity to this building for swaping pages. When ability is finished, dummy unit is selected for triggering player . I think something like this , ehh currently i cant do it with my best ,but if you like my idea i could create it with better trigger tommorow