Are there nice and comprehensive tutorials for LUA and C ?

[Geshishouhu]

Hi guys, I want to learn Lua and C, are there such tutorials around? I have no CS background and only know JASS which basically means nothing.

 

[Waffle]

Yes

just in case you might be interested there is this awesome resource i found
Google

oh so you want something better..
hard one..

I've found this one to do ones motivation some good in general but i havent taken the lua track yet..
(also you probably wont learn very advanced concepts from there and theres no C track..).

well the first 3 chars already answered the whole question so .. bye

 

[Geshishouhu]

Yes

just in case you might be interested there is this awesome resource i found
Google

oh so you want something better..
hard one..

I've found this one to do ones motivation some good in general but i havent taken the lua track yet..
(also you probably wont learn very advanced concepts from there and theres no C track..).

well the first 3 chars already answered the whole question so .. bye

Thanks, +Rep

 

[Kanadaj]

Hi guys, I want to learn Lua and C, are there such tutorials around? I have no CS background and only know JASS which basically means nothing.

That's not true at all. Learning how to program is more or less about learning the logic of how a code operates, what is OOP and how it works, what are the general programming practices and small things like that. Second comes the knowledge of what your platform/environment is capable off - what can the Warcraft 3 engine do, what causes it to desync?

A deeper knowledge of your chosen language is only tertiary. After having the first two, learning a new language is a piece of cake. Obviously, you learn the first two while learning a language, but it can be anything. Hell, GUI and Garry's Mod's E2 programming taught me the basics that helped me get a grasp on how it works.

Even more so, JASS operates quite similarly to C++ and C in some regards - you don't have a huge and comfy safety net like .NET under you: no massive pre-written and pre-compiled functions, no garbage collector to remove your leftover references.

LUA is a pretty simple scripting language, and I'd probably go at it through modding some game and look up the specific tutorials.

I don't see the point of learning C, since C++ is superior to it in basically everything that's not embedded system programming (in which case it's C or Assembly), and if you want to write any kind of programs for desktop/smartphones, you better go with C++. There should be quite a few books for that both in stores and on the net, and for C++, you can start with the official tutorial for C++, but this one look quite good as well.

Also, I like that LUA learning game.

 

[Geshishouhu]

That's not true at all. Learning how to program is more or less about learning the logic of how a code operates, what is OOP and how it works, what are the general programming practices and small things like that. Second comes the knowledge of what your platform/environment is capable off - what can the Warcraft 3 engine do, what causes it to desync?

A deeper knowledge of your chosen language is only tertiary. After having the first two, learning a new language is a piece of cake. Obviously, you learn the first two while learning a language, but it can be anything. Hell, GUI and Garry's Mod's E2 programming taught me the basics that helped me get a grasp on how it works.

Even more so, JASS operates quite similarly to C++ and C in some regards - you don't have a huge and comfy safety net like .NET under you: no massive pre-written and pre-compiled functions, no garbage collector to remove your leftover references.

LUA is a pretty simple scripting language, and I'd probably go at it through modding some game and look up the specific tutorials.

I don't see the point of learning C, since C++ is superior to it in basically everything that's not embedded system programming (in which case it's C or Assembly), and if you want to write any kind of programs for desktop/smartphones, you better go with C++. There should be quite a few books for that both in stores and on the net, and for C++, you can start with the official tutorial for C++, but this one look quite good as well.

Also, I like that LUA learning game.

Thanks for the reply, .
I still have one more questions: do I need to learn C first then jump in to C++?

 

[Kanadaj]

Thanks for the reply, .
I still have one more questions: do I need to learn C first then jump in to C++?

C and C++ are different languages. The syntax is quite similar, but the purpose and usage is vastly different. I don't believe you need to learn C for C++, but I do think that anyone wanting to start with C++ is going to have quite a hard time... On the other hand, I've been told that if you can get past that point and get a firm grasp on it, any language becomes a child's play (okay, maybe except for things like Antl4r(okay, it's not a language, but using it is rather different) and Haskell(or any other declarative language), those are rather different.)

Also don't forget that C is NOT object oriented while C++ is. OOP plays a huge factor, and starting with C then moving to C++ might confuse you a bit because of it.