Angel Arena Allstars 1.69f

[Moderator]

16:27, 27th Sep 2009
Rui: The map does not seem to be compatible with patch 1.24. Since it is unplayable, it is not worth having it up for download.

 

[Oziris]

There are so much of these Angel Arenas you dont know wheres the orginal ver.

 

[Zinive]

i fail to see the siege part.

No mana regeneration is one thing but ultimates are often not being usable since they cost like 1000 mana which is damn much in this map in the first till middle game.

The Spells are nothing special as they seem to be standard melee abilities.

Because of the limited mana passive skills are the way to go in this map.
However their are a few very nice points. For example the ability to transport items owns. Most of the Events are nice like the eclipse. You made good use of imported models. The attachment and item design are nice too.

All in all this map is nothing special and it suffers from the balance. I rate it 2/5

 

[youkaiz]

btw i trying to make the game most fair, have no many custon abilits (only 47 trigered abilits more than 300 abilits of map) i will don't make new heros before finish make all custon heros.

I think the no HP/Mana regen make the game more competitive you need buy itens to have HP/Mana regen. and u can use itens to regen HP/Mana(the life potions can be used at stock and give effect to hero.

 

[bounty hunter2]

I played many Arena maps like this on the battle net. They all have serious issues to be fixed. Mostly bugs that ruin the game, and a huge balance problem. Anyway I hope I will manage to try this map tomorrow or whenever I will have time and provide you some feedback.

 

[youkaiz]

can someone chek and aprove/disaprove the map?
i think now the map is good and balanced. Have all credits and is working property.

 

[EMPerror]

ok, i will test this now and i will give some comments soon, maybe tomorow

 

[youkaiz]

Can someone Test the new version?

Moderators can aprove the map? I think it working property, don't have many bugs or imbalanced heros.

If have and bug on map report me and i fix it, i trying make the map fair and fun to play.

 

[ProfessorZmurge]

That item which gives 50% Evasion is abit imba o.o

 

[youkaiz]

You can't use this iten to fusion or anything, and it uses 1 slot in hero, have too and magic resistence of 50%.

This items only give protections and don't attack, all players try to get more attack to farm.

 

[Togra_blah]

Best AA i know of.

Well, i've played this a bit since 1.5x, and i must say, i consider it the best version series of Angel Arena out there.

It's not perfect (then, nothing is), but it's well put together, fun to play, and quite reasonably balanced, especially for an Angel Arena map.

I've watched the changes since 1.5x and it's been all on the up and up - i think this map is pretty darn good.

I, personally, hover between a 4/5 and 5/5..... lots of modes, characters, items, events, options, and i especially love the ability to send items to and from ur Bank from ANYWHERE on the map, and how the Bank can use Potions for your hero and whatnot - very handy.

I think i'll give it a 5, really quite good fun if you ask me - keep up the good work youkaiz!

 

[youkaiz]

Thanks by rating

I fix disconects and many leaks from 1.50
Now(1.63) have new hero Son Goku(DBZ) and lots of new trigger abilits.
New secret itens (drop fron bosses) if you find all boss itens you can make ultimate item.

I learned yesterday how to use structs(vJass) .

 

[Rifle-Man]

Another Angel Arena expansion? How many are there? good job anyway.

 

[Zarleck]

This Angel Arena is the best iv played i Rate it 5/5
keep up the good work youkiaz!

 

[scaler]

If any1 still has any doubts abt this being official or not, look for yourself:
Youkaiz - Portal. Official forum. At the description is his blog.

Yes balancing is not finished yet. contribute at his forum?

 

[Dark_Dragon]

wow really good map well its my first comment on maps i guess but well this pawns many other Angle Arenas so it would be about 4.5/5 but well ill rate it 5/5 since you are trying hard to keep it updated and more balanced... btw no rep wtf +rep as well!

 

[iamtwon]

Youkaiz = saviour of Angel Arena! His maps are the only ones worth playing.

+1 Best, legit version of AAA.

 

[Vater]

Great game indeed, though it is hard for first-timers to learn how to play, and gold is useless mid-game, as well sometimes someone will lag out at the start of the game, believe it may be due to the triggers. 4/5

 

[youkaiz]

Dark_Dragon: Thanks for rep XD i working on many new abilits to make all heros with unique abilits(have 309 diferent abilits on game and 91 heros, need 364 abilits to all heros have unique abilits).
Now i making 1.66b to fix some issues and more abilits to heros. I make option to disable deathmach some ppl like a 3 hours game =/.


Vater:The start game lag is to load heros, have 91 heros on game and don't need to load all at loading(it increase loading time by 1 mim +-) and i load heros when players pick.
(because lag at starting)

 

[Metal_Head13]

Hey after i installed the newest battle.net patch the map wouldn't show up to be played. Anyone got any answers in how to fix that?

 

[nokkio]

hey i really like this map, but i think its a little bit hard to make the ultimate weapon with the bosses drop, i just can find the leviatan armor, ice blade, undead blade, the god's gem, but i cant find the last item, can u tell me plz? or maybe some clue? XD

Good work i always play this map with my friends.

 

[youkaiz]

Hello. XD

Metal_Head13
I don't know what is happen on 1.23 patch (i don't instaled it here because i waithing for more players on garena have it) but i will make a backup here to install 1.23 and see what is happen now.
(Tested on 1.23) 2° Edit
Is true, wc3 close when start game on 1.23, i realy don't know what happen, it only work on 1.22 =/
I will see here what can be happen and release an 1.67 fix, but i have no idea.
(Retested on 1.23) 3° Edit
It is working on 1.23 is only my wc3 is crashing i don't know what bugs here on pacth install, but i reinstall 1.23 and now is working >D
Hehehehe...

nokkio
Thanks, and the ultimate wapon is something only to fun because it is too hard to make in a serios game, but you need blades of all Kings(Gold, Ice and Death) with it you make the king's Blade(3k dmg), and:

King's Blade + Leviatan Armor + God's Diamond = God's Blade(Last Iten)

 

[nokkio]

Oh! i see that makes sense XD, well i tested the map today and i killed golden king like more than 30 times but he doesnt drop the sword, im pretty sure i played this version.

Anyway the map is awesome!!!! its like all the things i like in all the maps ive played but together. My friends are learning to play and now its really fun to play, well cya, good Work!! seriouslly!!!!

 

[Dark_Dragon]

i am glade you are working on your map youkaiz and i like it so giving rep is what you deserve well only thing i would like is custom AI but i know i can't ask that.

keep up the good work mate!
~Dark Dragon

 

[youkaiz]

Thanks Dark_Dragon XD. I will try make a custon AI for next versions, but have so many things it make AI hard to do.

Released the new version, i learned more about struct methods, and now i made so many new abilits.

 

[Dark_Dragon]

wow i was not serious i know how hard to make AI is well i am one of top vJass coders so if you need help about structs methods static stuff and such you can always ask me and ill help you out!

And as i said your map is really good but problem is its hard to play on bnet so thats why i wanted AI but making that is actually maybe not too hard but takes a lot of time i did once AI for some map and it took me a lot of time

anyway if you want to make AI make it but its just my experience on making AI.

As i said if you need help on some coidng and such i can always teach you!

Greets!
~Dark Dragon

 

[youkaiz]

if you can help me thanks,
i dont know how to make computers buy itens?
make hes attack others players if have many creeps around he?
have so many abilits, how make hes use abilits?

 

[CloudMax]

This was damn fun, played it with my mate. It was a while since i played angle arena.
Thumbs up!
I have a question, how do you battle Chaos? Been searching for a way to battle him for ages.

 

[youkaiz]

You can use -lord to fight him, but it is like -suicide, if you kill him have no bountry XD.

 

[CloudMax]

I killed him when i was Chaos in level 100 myself 5 hours match with 1000 lifes per team ^_^
Its not balanced, but its fun.

 

[antresajil]

I have the original version and its made by TheProff and DevilLilChild.

 

[CloudMax]

The original... Pffft..DevilLilChild wasnt the first, it was someone befor him.

 

[youkaiz]

Lol 1000 lifes each, 5 hours game
I trying to make game have something like 20-40 mim,
is impossible to balance a 5 hours game. hehe

Now i changed max lvl to 40(don't need lvl 100 if have no new abilits to it at lvl 40 you can have all.
And changed the lvl skip to abilits(from 4 to 2) now you can buff some abilities.

 

[Dark_Dragon]

so did you allready start making AI? xD

 

[CloudMax]

Lol 1000 lifes each, 5 hours game
I trying to make game have something like 20-40 mim,
is impossible to balance a 5 hours game. hehe

Now i changed max lvl to 40(don't need lvl 100 if have no new abilits to it at lvl 40 you can have all.
And changed the lvl skip to abilits(from 4 to 2) now you can buff some abilities.

Awesome.
I played 3v3 a few hours ago. team 1 was my friend, me & someone else. team two was some other guys. I choosed random, Player 3 in my team left becouse he didnt like hes hero.
But i didnt care, didnt feel like rmking so me and my friend continued to play.
After a while i found that i was stronger then the other team, even tough we was just 2 and they were 3, we could easily beat them.
Then about 10min later i wanted to get to the island but i didnt get there. So i tryed again.. didnt work.... I get damn anoyed and try again... Still doesnt work. I repeat that over 10 times & when i finally get there, the duel starts...
How horrible..... I lost in the duel becouse i didnt have time to buy items and i have to keep trying to get there. about 30 min later it was me versus 2 other (my friend had to sleep), have 90k and DAMN, I GET TO THE ISLAND. and now its time to buy the items, "mwahahahaha" i bought all the besst items and could easily kill them becouse i had an agility hero and they were Int/Str. Now i one hit KO the str hero and he left after like 5 kills in a row.
its 1v1 and i one hit KO, we repick, i still one hit KO. Then he left that game.
And i won when we were first 2v3 then 1v2.

What im trying to tell you is that your random trigger that teleport the hero to the island makes a HUGE inbalance in the game. You just need to be lucky to win. Maybe make so that every four time you enter, you get there? or maybe every three time? That would reduce the inbalance abit.
And you should also try to make the items on the island a bit more seriuse, not a single item on that island is balanced i think.

Also, it always end up with agility heros wins. at the end all you want is attack speed, becouse you get reduced attack speed by the best weapon. And if your an agility hero, you dont even have to think about it.

Windrunners tooltip for the damage aura is a little fucked up. it adds three 0 at the end at the %. So when it is suppost to say "gives 12% more...." it says "gives12000% more.....", pretty damn anoying.

When you choose a new hero, make it appear below the gate in the middle please, it bugs me that i die everytimes i get a new hero.

Some heros can stand on the other side of a wall to kill Archangel & Chaos, CHEATING O.O!!!

You can windwalk to the damn platinum coins that you have placed on the map. Please remove them, they are useless anyway. I mean, if you can get there, it means that you can make faster money by just killing the units that is standing there, they gives 5 platinum each.

Please remove the shop where you can instantly by update items.
That destorys alot of the balance, if a hero have windwalk, they can just windwalk there and doesnt have to matter about getting to the damn island.

It also bugs me that the guards that leads to the Undead Priest & to the huge demon level up when you kill them. If you is able to kill them, and get to the boss and then die. The guard just gets stronger & stronger. after a while your not able to get through the guard cus he is stronger then the boss himself. (happened for a guy i played with)

Maybe make so that you have to defeat the North East Undead Priest, to make the North East Demon appear & so on. And when you have defeated all demons the archangel appears.

 

[youkaiz]

Hmm, i fixing Windrunner Aura XD
Boss creeps can see invisible units, windwalk don't work on hes hehe.

I making the 1.68 now, i will try fix all to it(when chose special heros born in other's place and change the hidra's platinum, hydras can see invisible units)

 

[CloudMax]

you should still try to fix the balance by doing the things i said abow.

Maybe make so that you have to defeat the North East Undead Priest, to make the North East Demon appear & so on. And when you have defeated all demons the archangel appears.

That would be awesome since it is totally useless to kill the demons now.
The most important would be this

Your random trigger that teleport the hero to the island makes a HUGE inbalance in the game. You just need to be lucky to win. Maybe make so that every four time you enter, you get there? or maybe every three time? That would reduce the inbalance abit.
And you should also try to make the items on the island a bit more seriuse, not a single item on that island is balanced i think.

I changed my mind abit, make so that you get there every third time when you kill the undead priest & every second time when you kill the demon.

Hmm, i fixing Windrunner Aura XD
Boss creeps can see invisible units, windwalk don't work on hes hehe.

I making the 1.68 now, i will try fix all to it(when chose special heros born in other's place and change the hidra's platinum, hydras can see invisible units)

Pfffftt. All you need to do is to stealth your way to the Hydras then use an invul item and pick as many as you can. Now your imba in the beggining of the game.
Dont tell me that it doesnt work cus i did it once

What about making the Demons/Undead Priests giving you something? Like a item that drops in a 10% that is named something like "Gem of the Death" or something like that for one of them and "Gem of the Heaven" from another and so on. And when you have all four gems, it turns into one special gem. And then the same with the Undead Priest guys, make one of them drop something like "Charm of the Evil" and one that drops "Charm of the Good", "Charm of the Corrupt" & "Charm of the Pure" And make them turn in one charm. And when you have the charm and the gem, they turn into one item and tadaaahhh, now you got a badass item, that you deserved, not a stupid shop have anything to do with it.

 

[youkaiz]

Released the new version,
I don't make new itens because i balancing hero abilities, now all heros have unique abilities.

 

[Peteri1111]

I belive i try the map In few minutes, Will comment after it


Tested 3v3:
1 Major hero unbalance!
Gold king(Gilgahmes or something)
That axethrow skill, you can throw enemy stacks to hell with it... and anything else which is enemy
The Run ability or what is it with gold king, some times you get trough the black areas... and i got to duel arena... enemy spawn.. fenrirs right side(shooted him down with the staff)
anywhere!!! it gotta be fixed
3/5.... good map but bugs

 

[youkaiz]

=/
is realy, i will fix gilgamesh to 1.68b

 

[CodeKyuubi]

As of 1.68, Flying Sheep is broken because of the loss of level-reqs for skills. Cratos also does ridiculous damage: 60k dmge at 2k int.

All heroes with level-based skills got the short end of the stick. Axe, for example, got his ulti nerfed a few versions back, and got another indirect nerf making it completely useless to use.

 

[Peteri1111]

OH yeah... the events
first started an ecplipse... then started another..
after that 1 ended.. well later started another and then
the 2nd started ones ended so it ended the 3rd one..
and so on got funny bugged..
ps: it comes too much -.- and the vision is too dark!

 

[youkaiz]

The eclipse is realy dark because i remove all lightof game. Not only fog.

O trying to fix all issues to 1.68b the most fast as possible, thanks for all feedeback XD.

 

[rickmaruig]

very good
map much good é.é

 

[youkaiz]

I tryed to balance and fix all bugs on this version, thanks for all help.

 

[Peteri1111]

Lol again i played this time AP 6v6 300 lifes.
Started pit lord(imba cleave) bought some of the stats staff(imba at start)
then... when i got enough gold and imba items... i tried to get a imba hero ofc from archangel, but i saw chaos was lvl 100 req. well i had to buy ONLY 2k! each LVL TOMES!!! omg??
thats kinda cheap... make it more expensive or something, or im too good at the map
oh ye forgot to rate at first point
5/5 or did i forget who knows xD
CHAOS OWNS FENRIR 1000-0 (25 platium each kill 1 respawn rate is imba gold)

 

[CloudMax]

then... when i got enough gold and imba items... i tried to get a imba hero ofc from archangel, but i saw chaos was lvl 100 req. well i had to buy ONLY 2k! each LVL TOMES!!! omg??
thats kinda cheap... make it more expensive or something, or im too good at the map

After you have come far into the gameplay the tomes will ofc become cheap. And levels doesnt do so big differences in late game anyway. And well, when you said "im too good at the map" you mean that you had pit lord that you said was imba yourself, right?
And your not suppost to get that far into the gameplay so that you can kill the platinum units, if you can get the platinum units, that means that you easily can win the game so just win insted of playing it for hours and say that your to strong

BTW Youkaiz, what about reading some terraining tutorials and remake it? When i play the map and look at those screenshots, it makes me wanna cry. I like the map itself but the terrain is one of the big issues in the map.

One more thing: Can you get chaos now? You can only get level 40 (- heros can up to level 40) so i guess he is playing an old version.

 

[youkaiz]

Now chaos is lvl 40, and is realy hard to up to lvl 40.
(now don't have lvl up tomes, only exp tomes)

I trying to improve terrain but im realy bad at this. I will try improve terrain to and many others things to 1.70 (remake the most part of map terrain)

(to 1.69 i will make a system to load only picked hero abilities, and show heros icons at multiboard.)

 

[CloudMax]

Why do you even have Chaos at all? The special heros destroys pretty much everything in every match i play
Im not sure but is there a no semi/god on/off option you can enter? :O