Abilities castable while Banished

[Rahko]

Hey!

Is the difference of spells and skills hardcoded into the engine? I have the ability Banish in my map, which should allow units to cast spells. So I have this ability that really should always be castable. It is based on Taunt and turns out it's not castable while banished. Is there a way to change this or do I have to base my ability of something else which is count as a spell? Is there a list of which abilities are count as spells (thus castable while banished) and which are skills (or whatever, something not-spell)?

 

[Daffa]

I presume taunt is disabled due to the fact that taunt disables unit from being a prime target for non-magic attacker. Some sort of hardcoded mechanic for anti-abuse and miss-click, to say.

 

[Pyrogasm]

There are also some gameplay constants having to do with etheral-ness. Perhaps something there would enable some spells.

 

[Rahko]

Didn't find anything relating to Banish and abilities in the Gameplay Constants. I guess I have to use a different ability, thanks for your help anyways.

 

[Tasyen]

Is the difference of spells and skills hardcoded into the engine?

Yes hardcoded, except for channel here you can choose: be it spell or skill.

if you are in the newest version of warcraft 3 you could use the disableAbility action to making it unit specific immune to 1 disable.
Side effect that would also make it castable while beeing doomed etc.

• Unit - For Unit, Ability Taunt, Disable ability: False, Hide UI: False

But a simple solution would be to use a other base spell.

 

[Rahko]

Yes hardcoded, except for channel here you can choose: be it spell or skill.

if you are in the newest version of warcraft 3 you could use the disableAbility action to making it unit specific immune to 1 disable.
Side effect that would also make it castable while beeing doomed etc.

• 
  Unit - For Unit, Ability Taunt, Disable ability: False, Hide UI: False

But a simple solution would be to use a other base spell.

Interesting. I'll look into that.

 

[Marcos_M]

Some abilities are considered "Physical abilities" and are silenced by banish, so abils like taunt, ensnare, repair, attack, are all disabled while banished. I would just use a diferent base ability

 

[Rahko]

Well now that you mentioned the silence, I have also the ability ”Silence” in use, which in turn disables spells. Is there perhaps a non-targettable auto-cast-on-click (like Taunt) ability for dummy ability that is not disabled by either one, Banish or Silence? Otherwise I might have to try undisabling the ability via trigger after all anyways. The trigger might also allow casting of the said ability under influence of Hex and Polymorph? I have a workaround for those atm, but allowing the spell (or physical ability *cough* ) to be cast would be great.

Damn, why can’t there just be an event ”Command card button is clicked”.. >.<

 

[Tasyen]

The trigger might also allow casting of the said ability under influence of Hex and Polymorph?

It does, but only against 1 "silence" if an unit suffers more it is disabled. one could do the action multiple times to be immune to more silences at the same time.

Damn, why can’t there just be an event ”Command card button is clicked”.. >.<

For abilities this is starts channeling. Thats before cast point nor casting time where taken in.

 

[Rahko]

It does, but only against 1 "silence" if an unit suffers more it is disabled. one could do the action multiple times to be immune to more silences at the same time.

That shouldn’t be a problem in my map.

For abilities this is starts channeling. Thats before cast point nor casting time where taken in.

Yeah. Though that still has the problem that the ability has to actually be cast.

But thanks for the help! I’ll try that undisabling via a trigger.