A question about lightning effect

[Spacebuns]

So I want to make a unit that fires its projectile like the Chimaera unit (and the Razor hero in dota) does (i.e. shoots out lightning), and found an ability called "Lightning Attack" that allows me to achieve the desired effect but turns out it's overridden by attack-modifier passive abilities e.g. Bash, Critical Strike and loses its lightning effect. I've also tried to make a Bash/CS ability with a lightning effect but it didn't show up. So can anybody help me out with this?
(I'd prefer having a custom ability to using triggers)

 

[Boar]

Sorry to say, but lightning attack is the only custom abillity that allows this, However. You can make the lightning effect via triggers.
You can make bash and crit via triggers also.

Bash and Crit effects cannot display effects, the only way bash does display the effect is through the buffs. And you cannot add lightning to the buff without triggers.

 

[GunSlinger]

Is this a basic attack or a skill?

 

[cboy123]

Basic attack with an ability (orb effect)

 

[GunSlinger]

Can't you just change the projectile model of the unit.

 

[Adiktuz]

@Gunslinger - its a lightning effect, not a projectile model...

sadly, using the default lightning attack would really be overridden by attack modifiers (if you use Razor a lot, you'll also notice that...)

if you want a stacking lightning effect per attack, you might want to use a DDS + triggers to create the lightnings, though I think its not really efficient to do it that way...

 

[defskull]

I used Mjollnir to Razor, it works
Both normal damage, and Chain Lightning, occurs.
But the normal damage projectile is changed to red effect when Chain Lightning occurs if you watch it closely

 

[Adiktuz]

yeah, mjolnir works for razor, even skadi... and even skadi + mjolnir (but the lightning normal attack becomes invisible...)

 

[cboy123]

Agreed, since the lightning attack is an orb effect. (~_~)

 

[defskull]

And I confused, Mjollnir IS an orb-effect based item, too.

 

[Adiktuz]

well, it has something to do with the engine of wc3...

its because mjolnir, activates by chance while skadi is always on... if you look at it closely, when mjolnir activates, the skadi doesn't...

the same applies for the lightning attack...

 

[defskull]

Does the lightning attack, overrides orb effect then ?
I noticed, it's an ability used by Chimaera, not its Combat - Projectile Art

 

[Adiktuz]

Wc3 has a heirarchy for orb effects... permanent effects like orb of frost, lighting attack etc, is always at a higher priority than activated attack modifiers like orb of slow (at least for ranged units)

if you want more info on this, you might want to check playdota, as they have a list there...

 

[defskull]

Based from my following experience, lifesteal-type item is the highest priority in orb-effect item list, right ?

 

[Adiktuz]

yup...