Discussion in 'Guides & Database' started by DrizztDoUrden, Jun 7, 2016.
No1 seen the Hopebringer yet :v
Hopebringer is a myth =O
Helios psion accesory seems weak.. extra fire dmg is nice, but ap(negated by levitation) and no int, makes it weak.. not sure if I would pick it over seal.
It gives straight +12 SP, which is a lot for an accessory.
Gloves from seer gives total 18sp, int also boost psionic charges
Oh, please. Helios' effects are silly strong for an accessory. If you want to use spiritweave rather, that's your business. I don't see any decent psion player not aiming for this legendary.
unless ur a spellcaster psion, but thats rather unheard of
+6sp, +extra psi charges, +4% critt vs extra dmg procs, not a big difference for legendary.
I'm not even a psion player and I can see those procs are way better than 4 crit+8 charges+6sp. You should test it out for yourself before asking for buffs. This accessory adds more DPS than some lvl50 weapons.
Hopebringer bring us a hope that it exists :O
I actually didnt want to reply about all of this (cuz its ours Me and Zweib "private business"), but well, item made so much agiotage.
I understand Zweib's idea about Psion as class. Role that can replace other roles (jack-of-all-trades). As well i understand Zweib's idea about that item (item for multi class should give multi stats not just a simple +int+sp+hst as for some mage). Do i undersant the sense of getting bonus AP from psi necklace? For right now - no. Maybe later, yes, who knows? Even with large STR/AP boost there are a lot of other more usefull spells to absorb. But still what wasn't my original idea. Do i undersant the sense of getting bonus AP from psi necklace? For right now - no. Even with large STR/AP boost there are a lot of other more usefull spells to absorb. I also dont see yet robes and cloth hats with bonus AP, AS and STR (to be totally master in all, right?).
After all, Zweib told about next changes in Leviatation skill so lets wait to check how it will be. Moreover without testing it straight ingame nobody cant say how OP or useless Eyes are. Because im pretty sure that after some tests Zweib gonna nerf it hard cuz...
Nice catch btw.
Psion attackspeed is not that hight to exceed dps bonus from blue item, with proc
Check for yourself.
Also psion can copy spell for higher dmg (for example lightning), pls dont try to convince me ap and agi is good for psion xD
p.s. I'm not askig for buff dude, just pointing pointlessness of adding agi for int based classes.
or is it on purpose to not make hero too strong, while giving slight boost to haste and minions.
That i can understeand, but haste for psion is not rly usefull.
Decent, I understeand, but this1 isn't multiclass item
actually im more concerned about paragon vs marble. As it stands, paragon gives 10 less hp, 2 less armor+evasion and 2 less sp, big deal. but paragon gives 3 more AP and 6 agi. Tho i have not tested this, but the 6 agi could possibly give extra 1 crit and/or 1 evasion, which cancels out the fact marble allows for more SP dps. 1 evasion too isnt a big deal compared to the extra 3 ap you are pumping out every hit. the difference is minute, but seeing as marble was meant for crusaders/hb versus paragon which is a more universal item, i thought the "class specific" items would be a bit better.
I agree with that. Paragon is too strong for an item that can be used by any class. Either need to nerf it or buff the pure tanking mail/cloth accessories.
removing the agi from paragon might be a justifiable nerf, or lowering all stats to 4 or 5. giving +2 more evasion to marble (making it have 4 eva) would also seem like a nice small buff.
edit: seeing as paragon drops from seer (technically the last boss?), im getting the impression that it might be the case where "one universal item rules them all" which i honestly dont mind. hopefully we can get some clarification on this issue.
I think buffing the pure tanking cloth/mail acc would be a better option (at least on the defensive side) because the dps acc are obviously better than Ring of the Paragon
Buffing eva from marble alone would be sufficient enough i think.
legendaries upgradeable by Dun Haldrian token? sounds cool is true or?
i'm ok with paragon since i've droped it from Magnataur Patrol Elite for my monk. ^^
hurricane is way better for monks
For DPS sure, but for tanking paragon is currently the obvious choice, even though bearpaw is supposed to be tuned for him. When makhar kiting is fixed and in the future when D4 is released, you will need a tanking build.
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