Shango Winter Edition

Moderator · Oct 14, 2015

8:59, 14th Nov 2015
StoPCampinGn00b:
Map works very smoothly after the updates where the leaks might have affected the gameplay. The design scenerio (2v2v2v2) of the map keeps the TD genre fresh while having standard and special towers. Also nice to see a few decorations on the sides of the map. Will play again on battle.net after playing it three times.

Map approved, not rated. Will rate if more extensive testing is done - especially on the balance of the races.

WhiteFang · Oct 17, 2015

Care to show some screenshots?

DaneTheBeast · Oct 18, 2015

WhiteFang said:
Care to show some screenshots?

Done.

Ardenian · Oct 19, 2015

I dislike you use the name 'Shango TD' simply abusing the overall publicity this name has in the BattleNet instead of creating your own game.

Though it would be nice to have a more professional version of Shango TD.

DaneTheBeast · Oct 19, 2015

Ardenian said:
I dislike you use the name 'Shango TD' simply abusing the overall publicity this name has in the BattleNet instead of creating your own game.

Though it would be nice to have a more professional version of Shango TD.

Well this map is a remake so I see it as logical for it to keep its name. Using a different name would seem like I was trying to get off with using someone else's map as my own. Though I have thought of giving it a new name.

Ardenian · Oct 19, 2015

Hmhm, but see, even if you don't change the map you try to get off using someone's else map and basic ideas.
I guess as there are hell of Shango fakes and remade/remakes this could actually be a good one, I might give it a try.

WhiteFang · Oct 19, 2015

Using a different name would seem like I was trying to get off with using someone else's map as my own.

You do have a point

DaneTheBeast · Oct 19, 2015

Ardenian said:
even if you don't change the map you try to get off using someone's else map and basic ideas.

I am well aware of that, and being so I crediting everyone I can, even Carnifex (Who I think created the original), I am also keeping the map open-source to once again not seem like I am taking all the credit for the map. _{I might even put an easter egg regarding carnifex}

Ardenian · Oct 20, 2015

Hm, I had a quick look over the triggers, there are some leaks, especially waits, and most of them are pretty inefficient, too.
Maybe take a look on them, would be nice to have a leakless and efficient map.
They are not severe, as far as I noticed, though.

DaneTheBeast · Oct 21, 2015

Alright, thanks. I got a couple of questions if what I did was right and if I should do something or not.

What I did: used this

Actions
- Set GroupVar = (Units in (Playable map area))
- Unit Group - Pick every unit in GroupVar and do (Unit - Remove (Picked unit) from the game)
- Custom script: call DestroyGroup(udg_GroupVar)

instead of this

Actions
- Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units in (Playable map area)) and do (Unit - Remove (Picked unit) from the game)

is that good?
Also this:

Actions
- Set GroupVar = (Units owned by Player 2 (Blue))
- Unit Group - Pick every unit in GroupVar and do (Unit - Remove (Picked unit) from the game)
- Custom script: call DestroyGroup(udg_GroupVar)

instead of this

Actions
- Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units owned by Player 2 (Blue)) and do (Unit - Remove (Picked unit) from the game)

.

Good?

Also, there are 4 player group variables, 1 for each team, should I make them an array with the size of 4 or keep 4 different Player Group variables. Also, I remember seeing in a map that the size of an array was 1 but was used as if it had more and it worked, how do sizes work then? _{i guess ill search for an explanation here on hive}

Ardenian · Oct 21, 2015

The map section is a bad place to ask these questions, consider posting it in the WEHZ.

Yes, it is good, as you remove leaks.

There is one thing, I learned you should never use a single action action, but a multiple actions action.

Hm, indexed variables would be slower, but you have more triggers with four variables. I myself would use indexed ones, as it makes the triggers look more cleaned.

StoPCampinGn00b · Nov 14, 2015

Review reserved

EDIT: Map works very smoothly after the updates where the leaks might have affected the gameplay. The design scenerio (2v2v2v2) of the map keeps the TD genre fresh while having standard and special towers. Also nice to see a few decorations on the sides of the map. Will play again on battle.net after playing it three times.

Map approved, not rated. Will rate if more extensive testing is done - especially on the balance of the races.

CafeSaiGon · Dec 21, 2015

I'm test this map v5 at solo. Where creep? Next income +gold but no see creep to kill

Rex. · Dec 21, 2015

Not bad.

DaneTheBeast · Dec 21, 2015

CafeSaiGon said:
I'm test this map v5 at solo. Where creep? Next income +gold but no see creep to kill

I tried to explain the game play on here and in the map if you go to F9 menu. There are no waves, enemies send creeps, that means that the enemy must be a human player. Also, you shouldn't build there, creeps spawn in the middle (When sent by another player) and move to the 1st checkpoint (In your case the upper right one), and then to the 2nd checkpoint (upper left) and then to the fountain where you lose your lives (bottom left)

The 1st attachment is how the creeps will go when red or blue send some creeps (1 creeps spawns 3 times (for each other team)).
The 2nd attachment is how creeps will go when someone from the opposite team sends creeps
Map can't be played against Computer opponents since they don't send and they don't build. But you can still start the map to test things without human players.
I added an explanation to the main post. You can also look at the screenshots in my main post (They are hidden) and you can see how we placed our towers.

CafeSaiGon · Dec 21, 2015

Ok thank you Danethebheast. I will play this map with other player

Your map same Legion TD ^^

DaneTheBeast · Dec 21, 2015

Update 14-May-2016
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Update 6.5 is uploaded
Thanks @never1 for the feedback. I'll see if I can do anything.

neven1 · May 14, 2016

I had some heavy lag in later game.I don't know why and no i didn't save the replay.Just saying.

Had to quit the game because of it.

DaneTheBeast · Jul 7, 2016

v7.1 is out. Seems that I fixed the bug from 7.0

It wasn't gamebreaking ( If you didn't leave your region

)

neven1 · Oct 12, 2016

Yup great map 10/10 would play again

Feed_Me · Feb 3, 2017

My favourite TD for now man

Keep working!

Cepanius · Jan 2, 2018

best version of tower wars or shango map i have played so far, very good job

DaneTheBeast · Nov 19, 2018

v8.1c released! Many changes to the code of the map. New command to disable animations of towers in order to increase performance in games with lots of players, and much more!

Shad- · Jan 7, 2019

Hi, I think the map would improve a lot with a all random mode and a mode that puts a limit on the amount of towers you can build. For example 60 towers per player. I think having a limited maze is more interesting than making a endless one without thinking.

DaneTheBeast · Jan 7, 2019

Shad- said:
Hi, I think the map would improve a lot with a all random mode and a mode that puts a limit on the amount of towers you can build. For example 60 towers per player. I think having a limited maze is more interesting than making a endless one without thinking.

You're right! I can't say when the patch will come out but I'll make sure that's in the next one.

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