Kyrbi0

Yeah, it's him. I simply love the Protoss as a race. thanks for the compliment btw

Wow, I didn't expect you to explain that. That sucks, any joke explained sucks. xP

But I guess I was asking for that.

Kyrbio,

Do as you please, man. I think that it will be a nice idea.

Shocking that this has been an issue for 14 years. It isn't as if people haven't complained (you being best example obviously).

And regarding contest it seems we are going to do custom resource after all. Even though I do have feeling like preparations have been lacking and everything feels rushed at least once the competition starts everything will be better. So I say to you now may the best race win.

I actually like Social Groups despite them being juvenile I had great times there. Heh and guess can be used as petition where members sign up.

Well they are making Hive 2.0 so maybe they are planing something to do about polls. Or at least it is opportunity to make changes in poll system though we would need a programmer. But until then we could try some alternative like as I suggested that each voter would have to give small review as reason of his vote or else his vote doesn't count. We already don't count when people vote for themselves.

From experience I know that Social Groups are dead and ignored by community. I think in the end biggest problem is how system is coded. No way to disable voting until person posts so we can only hope they would read first post that says they need to write reason. That or only count votes with posts.

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"I'd like to thank all the little people!..."
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Err~ What did you mean with that?

Reporting for duty sir! We shall lead by making examples.

Well, I always find your comments either useful, entertaining, or both. So you definitely need more of that rep.

I would prefer if poll voters would need first to explain why they voted. Count only votes that had posted review on thread. Wouldn't be perfect solution but at least contestants would get some feedback.

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Fortunately, most of them are the same race to race (potions of healing/mana, scroll of town portal, an orb, etc), but the rest... Yeah. I never use Items so I never know if they are balanced. It's there to give everyone access to certain things, as well as to fill certain 'gaps', I believe (as you pointed out, Dust of Appearance for Orcs who have no early detectors as a defense against BM harass), but what are those gaps? And how bad should they be filled? *sigh*
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Ok unbalanced was not great way to describe it but I feel orcs and humans had better items then others (Orcs and Humans both get good heal and Scroll of Speed and Tower).


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Kudos! Yeah, that last bit there is the exact thing I am all against; I have done my best over the years to put time & thought into everything I do, and I hope to create things that are truly creative, unique, and (hopefully) fun. No "spamming DD abilities" for me. :P
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http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/153782-albums1040-picture45260.html
This picture shows the winning race of Improved Race theme (guy won 3rd one too). As you can see guy had very creative spin on humans race. The main feature was aura system, each unit had weak aura that got stronger depending of number of units with same aura (Although I broke the system with unit (flying dwarf) with aura that increases other auras. That is just one example there are I am sure many others and honestly you shouldn't fear of lack of creative people. Better fear that they have better Trigger/JASS skills, and gets worse if they can model too (Though just modeling skill wins better polls not necessarily gameplay).

`Oh good, as long as we are on same page.

`Yes I hate making items too they are kinda game breaking anyway and honestly unimaginative. I once for the fun of it replaced it with building that casts spell instead.

`Well the example of remove all other subraces from main race was bad one. In the end you risk making race that has all units look the same. For improved race I think it would be more logical to "add" not "reduce".
-If I would be making just dwarves though I would probably though make dwarves (ironforge/wildhammer), machinery (tanks/golems) and gnomes (ok unsure about them I dislike them), maybe add human.
- The only race where I would remove stuff is undead but that is because i prefer undead with bigger role on necromancy as current undead in my opinion don't use enough corpse system (it is supposed to be a resource). Then again undead themselves lack real subrace besides nerubian for whom I do have soft spot.
-For Elementals well I think it would be a crime not to have all 4 element plus random one for 5th.
-Goblins yeah mix of alchemy and mech but you could add mercs like ogres and gnolls.

`I have been in 3 competitions (dropped out of 3rd, lost motivation to work) and they were quite alive and had very cool races. Seems the competition dropped in 2013 though. Contests themselves usually lasted month or longer and sometimes they add overtime. Honestly I saw worse race ideas in Race Makers group and in map section. Can't tell you how often I see races that just copy same units, use hero abilities on regular units or have units with same roles.

Was wondering would it be better to move our conversation here or PM so we wouldn't hijack the contest threads for ourselves (hard to track when we are spreading)? Or can I just end it by saying that I have to agree with most of the points you said but duo to personal subjective view I prefer to have a full race. Oh and sorry for appearing hostile it wasn't my attention.

I guess I would just say that while on first view item shop appears dumb and time consuming the items sold there are actually great advantage (at least tier 1 items for early healing, invisibility reveal (Bladmaster rushing is pain) and example Scroll of Speed (I love to combine Endurance Aura, Berserk and Scroll) and scroll of town portal).

Oh and the unfair point was about that examples were outdated not the content (in fact I think it was even same contest theme used on Hive at that exact time). At that time Hive Teachtree was active also but game grew more older and Sc2 happened. I don't even see any of the teach-tree usual competitors even posting.

Kyrbio,

Hah it's no hurry then. Take your time. I was just excited to hear what you think about it
Unless you deleted the PM I sent you, the text is still there.

You just write back when you got the time. But I'll probably text back in the end of next week


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(Lol... When I'm on, I'm posting here & there, responding super-fast... When I'm not on, everything just takes a light-speed leap forward without me. xD)
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I know, right?
There has been so quiet today, but when I woke up this morning it was like it was a totally new forum!

Hey Kyrby.
Did you have a chance to look at the text I PMed you?

m'ya..

<.<
>.>
you sure?

I doubt this is just for my WoW 'Toon' and Fan-chara, Lujka.

Ah good

Well, fanatic might be a stronger word than actually intended. Tone it down and you have what I mean
When it comes to the middle eastern countries I think it is lack of technology to see what is going on outside their own borders, thus they primarily get their "truth" by the high priests. But that's another story.

When it comes to religion in general the US is seen as such. Just look at how your presidents (no matter which party) often tend to end their speeches.

Heh yeah you have a good point in every country beings God's country. I guess if one in particular should be chosen it would be Israel.

I think I would like to end this conversation now. I have the feeling I am degrading where I shouldn't be.
I'm up for talking about anything else

Oh, I hope I didn't offend you by writing that last part!

aaand i went into creating a tusked cobra naga for my troll model's alt .u. so yeah.. will keep you informed about stuffs, i think, lol

settled for banshee missile launch, maybe combined with bristleback, we'll see..

well, me being me, i'll probably delay it some more until i'm happy with the anims and effects so.. feel free to browse the sounds in WE's sound editor, if you have time

well i tested the war3 hydralisk, and he ain't got an attack sound.. anything else for launching darts?

Married? Shit, I thought I was older than you.

You're kidding me, right? I've been in more relationships than I can even remember.
Don't put so much value in relationships, man, it just stings more if they go wrong.
That aside, I'm happy to devote as much of myself as I can to the woman I'm with.

Anyway, I might do more Ents.

Agreed.
However stereotypes exists for a reason. Fx. goth people. There are certain traits that you will find in a lot of goth people and those traits will become synonymous with that phenomenon. It's kinda like saying Danish people are white. Well most of us are, but not all.
Stereotypes often becomes caricatures of a particular social group, more often than not the more extreme angles of those groups, deeming all the rest, still with the traits, just as extreme.
Muslims in general are a good example as well.

Shit that was badly written. I hope you got the gist. I'm tired



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Yes (how is that more startling? Here in America we thrive on cultural differences. And bacon, but that's another story)
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Hehe well. As seen by an american perhaps. Cultural differences within the US. The rest of the world are commies or terrorists
Hah but not my point. I think the stereotype hammer has fallen again. US kinda has this reputation of being religious fanatics, or at least a large part of their population is.
You know "God's own country" and "the greatest country in the world".
That's why I am more startled.

Finalizing an Ent model. It's in the album.

Hey, the truth is that I didn't do much with it after the contest. And I lost that map a long time ago.

Pardon we for saying; hallelujah! I'm really happy you see it from that angle. Often people who are strong in their faith has a hard time seeing beyond that. Or perhaps it's just how they are portrayed usually, as stereotypes (as hinted earlier, I don't really roam religious circles so I don't know if this is true or not).
Can I assume you are from the States? If so I find your view even more startling (condescending again?)

While I don't have a pressing question at the time being, be sure I will ask you if/when I have one

big attachment points just mean my model is smaller than its needed to be, once i sort out animation speeds, i'll take a look to see if making the whole model bigger in the animation will fix the issue.

puffs of steam sfx? I gotta check how war3 hydralisk does his, if they're only particles, they'll be good, also need a dart-like launch sound, got any idea which war3 unit uses darts?

as for death sfx, if there's something from default war3 MPQs, i'd use that, as it is for now

Went out all day yesterday with an ex, it was actually nice to see her literally giving me the time of day. It probably had something to do with the fact that I made it clear that anyone showing up to hog her attention or drag her off is getting thrown in the artificial lake at the mall.

So i made animations that i wanted, they turned out neat but either somewhat faster or slower than i wanted but heck, that's me.. will see if those can be sped up or slowed down without editing the anims themselves. I also added the attachment points but it looks like they're a bit too big for the model ingame wondering if they'll get normal if i scale the model via anims. also looking for some sfx that'll resemble a poison dart spray, to use on attack anim

how are you with night elf small building death sfx for this guy? feels ok to me.. but is there a corrupted version..?

I just had a wonderful ass day. Whats up with you?

right.. now hide that link

gonna see what i can do with it again, but.. don't be surprised if i ask you to find another guy to do the anims, i hope that won't be the case >.>

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Ah yes. Indeed, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS or Mormon). Good guess. If you have/had any questions on us or other branches of Christianity, let me know.
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Not to sound condescending. But I can better see how my avatar is a thorn in your eye knowing this.
Actually I'm surprised that you didn't make a bigger fuzz about it. Thank you for that.

I will from now on direct my Christianity questions your way.

well fuck..
You'll have to send me the backup of totem hydra because mine has gone to shit.. mdlvis gives me errors on nearly every action i do on it

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As impossible as that would be (to not know your spouse's age), yeah, it would've been better I suppose.
However, it's definitely just me and definitely a personal issue; I feel that I have a mild case of 'inferiority complex'. I discovered (on my LDS mission, where we spend 2 years 'fused at the hip' with some other dude(s, anywhere from 5 to 15 but only 1 or 2 at a time) as you wander around the world teaching the gospel) that I tended to take a lower, subservient position in my relationships with others (esp. guys (to whom hierarchy is important) especially). This "self-deprecation" made me *even lower* when I was paired with some dude who was older/out longer than me... But somehow, made myself feel as 'equals' or 'peers' to the dudes who were younger/out less than me.
Thus I determined that my wife would need to be younger than me for me to feel 'equal' to her.
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So a Mormon? (My knowledge is very limited on the different branches of Christianity)

Yeah such experiences can lead to, shall we call it low self esteem? Because I guess that's the root of the matter.
Which, if we go really into it, probably stems from something in your pre adolescent life.
That could be a long conversation


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PSYCHE. ^_^ But it's working out. Oh the follies of youth.
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Hehe yeah I know


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On the topic of "upper limit", I kinda agree. Sorta. See, the older you get, the less (I feel) it matters. Ultimately you're just all adults, and a 30ish-yr-old dating a nearly 50ish-yr-old? Not so weird, except when you consider the ~20yr difference. :<

Take my parents for example; now, in their late 40's/50's, the 7.5yr difference isn't a big deal... But it *was* when you think about how my dad was in college (technically, at 17) while my mom was in elementary school. At *that* age, that's a criminal offense, lol.
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Completely. I guess that's an unproven fact. The older you are the less age matters. But it's also understandable.
There is a huge difference in maturity between, say, 16 and 20, but not really any difference from 46 to 50.
That is probably also one of the reasons why knowing the age of your "adversary" in a forum like this, or in a computer game, can makes things weird.

Haha yeah that could lead to a felony

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That's true, and I agree that (for better or for worse) that's something I tend to do as well (assume people are my peers until 'proven guilty' ). The consistency of a users' posts can sometimes lead me astray, I'll admit.
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Until proven guilty ^^ I like that phrase.
Fx. You are married, well articulated, and mild tempered. That tells a lot.


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That's humorous, because I was totally going to give you my age & ask for yours in my previous VM, but simply forgot. I guess I'm glad I did. :<
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Heh yeah. You did offer a "trade" in your first post. I "forgot" to answer


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And if it's any consolation, I have had to go through that in a RL sort of way; My wife is about 4.5yrs older than me (and me, of all people; I always said I'd marry someone younger than me), and we have had to communicate deeply about the pre-/mis-conceptions that arise based on our age differential. But it can be worked through (is my point).
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That's a personal "issue" if I may use that term. I myself couldn't care less. Well that's not entirely true. I do have an upper limit. Lol anyway.
The example is exactly what I was talking about. Would it have been better if you never got to know her age?


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Heh, sure why not.
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Done. To spare you the "embarrassment" I left the author's name out

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Excellent point; and another reason I'm glad I never do stuff like that. : )

That being said, your point is taken & also indicates that I did a poor job of research; going off of just the Join Date is, you're right, dumb. I try and go off of join date, reputation, posts, threads, all that stuff... But I didn't take the time to do so for this whole shebang, unfortunately. Definitely my bad.
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Yeah well. Usually I assume people are my age when first encountering them or mentioning them.
After a while you will get a better idea of what their real age is, without mentioning it, I should add.
Also.
I never ever ask for a person's age. For some reason, you can have a perfect friendship with another user until you realize they are 10 years younger or older than you. I don't know why, but for me at least, most of the time it just gets weird.


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Lawl, can't believe I typed that... Way-to-proofread, self. xD
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Can I... uhm, can I use that quote "older peeps are usually older" as my signature?

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Eh, I suppose. I will admit to that particular flaw; if I don't know anything about a person, the Join Date (among other things) gives me a place to start; newer peeps are usually younger, less experienced or mature, and older peeps are usually older, more experienced or mature. It's not always right (especially the former; some people just join late in life, or have above-average maturity), but the Join Date and some of their recent Posts/Threads gives me a taste.

Amount of Posts is a tricky one; someone with a lot of posts can be a really helpful, talkative guy... Or a noise spamming idiot, like me xD (my Wc3C profile is a good example of that). Someone once said "Awexomeness = Reputation / Posts". I fail pretty hard at that test.
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There are a lot of ifs and buts when comparing join date and post count to a user's age. That's why I find it presumptuous to bring that on the table. I bet I'm in the higher age range of the users here even though I only "recently" joined.
Bringing age into anything when it comes to internet communication is a quick and easy way to start a war on words. Often including the phrases; "shut up kid", "isn't it past your bedtime?" and "your mama".
Anyway. That's the reason why I try to avoid bringing up age in any event, jolly or grave. It always ends bad at some point.

By the way. This; "older peeps are usually older", taken out of context, is pretty lol ^^



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I suppose I would have to go with that; that the "discussion about [his] avatar contra [mine] require a better explanation". I'm not quite sure why. To be honest, if not for that, there may be no satisfactory reason. I suppose in trying to ameliorate things, I accepted that my statement could be construed as condescending or presumptuous. I'm not sure that I believe it was, but if it was received as such, then I was/am honestly sorry for that misunderstanding.

If you didn't see it as such, then there's no reason to beat myself up about it. : )
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I think you chose the right answer here. Whether or not it's actually true I can, and will probably, never find out. But I'll accept it as true.
My concern is based on the fact (relative to the eyes reading of course), that you brought some form of intelligence undermining into the discussion.
Let's leave it. It doesn't matter anymore.


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Huh. Well, who am I to get in the way of a beautiful friendship? : )

That being the case, I'm not sure I understand the phrase "felt I took a bullet"; is that a euphemism for "feeling as though you have been (metaphorically) shot at (i.e. verbally assaulted)"?

Thank you, I appreciate that concession. : )
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Heh you are not getting in the way of anything. Him and I don't know each other. Not here on Hive nor in real life.

I felt I took at shot in form of a phrasing seemingly aiming at my intelligence. You did a great job fencing that off however.


Edit:
I thought you wouldn't write back for some reason. I have seen you online plenty of times after I posted the last message. So I began to wonder. I'm glad you wrote back.

Okay. I hope that the activity there will be high once more as it used to be in the past. Anyway cheers for caring for that great site

ur are trying rally hard to get some contests in arena goin and still, so many delays ;<

its no problem at all. i found your "overly written" review quite amusing to read. there's those bits of humor that i like in your posts. so its fine if you do reviews like that on my models next time.
also, i've been working on a model that you can make a lore on. there's a pastebin link i posted on vermillion's profile. it may give you some idea on what background to make for it.

My sesion has ended and still no contests up, no matter how hard u try :S

Phew. Alright let me try to dissect your post.


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I apologize if you were offended, but I can assure you that I meant no offense. First of all, when I said "younger", I was referring solely to your join date, *not* your biological/chronological/actual age. You're right, to assume such would be a poor assumption; in all likelihood you are older than me (I'd offer to 'trade ages' to see as I'm curious, but I'm not sure you would trust me at this point. :<...). In terms of "join date" you are, indeed, "younger" than me. That is all I meant.

Moreover, you appear to have read (in my message to another person) the phrase "and" as meaning that the two statements were meant to be understood together. Though that is common, that is not what I intended:

My Original Comment, edited for emphasis

Regardless of your age ('actual' or 'join date'), I felt a greater need to explain. The second clause was meant to be independent of the former; since both were true, I used 'and'.

Anyway, not trying to teach a grammar lesson, but you appeared to have confused my meaning.
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It may be true that the actual meaning escaped me. Though it eludes me why you bring "age" into the matter then. It seems to be an unnecessary addition unless your opinion of a person is based on the join date or amount of posts.
Furthermore. You felt a greater need to explain. May I ask why?
Your greater explanation needs leads me to this sentence in your conversation with Trax:


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For you, that level of "explanation" probably did sound incredibly presumptuous or condescending; again, I apologize.
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Epecially the "for you" catches my eye. How is it supposed to be understood then? If it's for him then it must mean it's not for me, which, as I see it, can only lead to the conclusion that a higher level of explanation must be used when talking to me.
Or does the discussion about my avatar contra his require a better explanation?
It may have been a less-than-thoughtful VM but the matter of the subject is the same, issue with an avatar.


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I cannot help but feel that you are seeking for offense, because not only did I not intend it, but you went looking in other conversations of mine to find it. Is there another explanation for your actions? Because if it makes you feel any better, I consider this whole issue a great personal failing; I have always done my best to maintain a civil attitude & reasoned discourse on the Internet, and have been gratified in my ability to avoid conflict with people.
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Pure coincidence. I was looking at your profile for some reason and the conversation between the two of you caught my eye.
Traxamillion has a special spot in my hive life, which only a few people know of. Even though we have never uttered a word to each other.
It does indeed not make me feel better. But seeing how your conversation evolved I felt a need to voice my opinion as I felt I took a bullet. Which I, for the time being, still feel.
Don't worry. From what I have seen, lurking the forums, I would not deem you inflammatory in any way.


Lastly. I have been waiting for your reply with eager.

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Unfortunately, like I said, I did some copy/pasta-ing, and that last bit in particular came from when I was talking to Forsaken (a relatively new user) and then to Solu9 (not exactly 'new' but younger than me, and I felt a greater need to explain). For you, that level of "explanation" probably did sound incredibly presumptuous or condescending; again, I apologize.
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Oh really Kyrbi0?
It feels great that you were so kind to explain it to me (or Forsaken for that matter) as I am younger (assumption) than you. Apparently I cannot understand a message unless it is explained in details.
It also feels great that my understanding level is lower than Traxamillion's (not directed at you Trax). Thank you for throwing that label on me.
Seeing that is the case I didn't find your post condescending, but educational and eye opening. Right.