Master Arena v3.4b

[Vengeancekael]

I must say, this is a very entertaining map and the game didn't lag with all the ai's in the map:>

 

[baassee]

haha well the AI isn't great either

this map is paused atm but when the next version come it will have new heroes and taverns

 

[baassee]

The Next Version 3.2.b will have 1-2 new heroes, 1 new tavern, a few changed abilities, bug fixes, general game play improvment and a better item system!

This new version will be released this weekend. Enjoy!

 

[baassee]

Map has been updated!

 

[Vengeancekael]

the changes look promising, will check it out now
Edit: in one word, Fun.

 

[baassee]

Well I edited a few ultimates to make them more "ultimate". Though the AI is a bit strange made so I will probably remake it.

PS. Huge changelog for a b-update

 

[Alfagar]

Must be cool :O

 

[MogulKahn]

Nice map !

 

[baassee]

@Death_Minion_

You checked it?

@MogulKahn

Thanks

 

[Junpei]

nice map . .


a funny thing is the creeps!!! ( )

why is it to small . . .

 

[baassee]

It's small because it should provide a faster gameplay.

 

[baassee]

Quicky update to 3.2c

Various changes with the new hero Voodoo Master, a few trigger and gameplay changes + an ultimate got remade!

Enjoy

 

[baassee]

New update 3.2e (yes there was a 3.2d)

See latest changelog + editors note for more info.

 

[Vengeancekael]

I've recently made a gameplay video. It will be finished uploading soon...
Edit : Uploaded

 

[Lag_Reviews]

Woah, This deserves a Review

Well I was recently asked to review this map and as I played the original, I thought I would give it a review.

So here is the review, Hope you enjoy and use my ideas and criticism to help improve your map.

The Review for version 3.2e!

*Note: I was the fluke master and did not use any pre-game or in-game commands*

Things I liked:

• Custom preview image
• lots of custom items
• lots of custom spells
• Nice AI
• Spawning units for lanes

PRO's:

• No Bugs (That I found)
• No Glitches (That I found)
• The game worked (As far as I know from my tests)

CON's:

• It says red can now enter commands even when there isn't a player in the red slot (See suggestion pre-game commands)
• Doesn't tell you what the pre-game commands are unless you read the F9 menu (see suggestion pre-game commands)
• Some items can be clicked as though they summon something/have an ability or are consumable but they seem to do nuthing. (Some of the items I found which do this are the Gooses crit stick of Perpetual Necessity and Langmans Bulwark of Creep Murder)

Things you can do to improve the description:

• Could add an upcoming updates log so we know what you are working on fixing/adding
• Maybe you could add a youtube video of gameplay (This will attract more downloads if done well)

Things you could add to the map to improve it:

• Custom loading screen
• custom models for heroes, creeps, buildings, spells, items etc (Could help improve but isn't 100% necessary)
• When you destroy all the enemies creep spawning buildings you should make it that a small majority of creeps still spawn otherwise the game is just too easy to win (Just an idea)

Suggestions!

Suggestion - Pre-Game Commands

Well I was recently testing a number of different player slots to test the 2 teams accordingly and was thinking why does it say "red can now enter commands" when there is no-one in the red slot?

So, I was thinking you could make a system which detects the closest player to red and give them the ability to choose the pre-game commands, this would also kick in if red lags out on the loading screen or quits straight after the game loads.

How the system would work:

It would detect if there was a player in slot 1 red and if so it would say red can now select the pre-game commands
Although if there was no player in slot 1 red it would detect that and find the next closest player to slot 1 red and give them the command.

For example if there is no player in slot 1 red it would say player 3 green can now select the pre-game commands and give player 3 the options to set up the game.

Also on the topic of Pre-Game commands, I was playing the game and was about to enter a pre-game command when I realized the only way to find the commands is if I take my time to go and find them in the F9 menu and read them that way.

So, I was thinking why not list them in the text at the start when it says red can now enter commands under that it could list the commands.

For example:

Red can now enter commands
-setrate xxxx
-nt
-ar
-om

Suggestion - Scoreboard

Just a few suggestions to help improve the pre-game commands and make them easier to enter.

I was recently playing and looking at the scoreboard it lists a very good range of things. Like the player name, hero name, how many kills and deaths you have.

Although I was thinking why not let it show what level a hero is as well.

I was thinking this could be done in 2 ways.


First way:


Where it says Player and then says for example Player 1 [Fluke Master] that it could be changed to Player 1 [Fluke Master level 5]

Then when the hero levels up in would change to Player 1 [Fluke Master level 6]

Second way:

This way is a bit different to the first way. I was thinking that next to the heading Players and before Kills that you could have a heading called level and under it would be the current level of all the players hero.

Then when the hero levels up, the number under the Level heading the number would change accordingly.

Just a suggestion hope you like it

Suggestion - Creeps

I was thinking the creeps are there and don't really level up or do anything else then go fight and die.

So, I was thinking why not make them level up and make them a bit more important then just a unit that fights and dies?

How they would level up:

Well when you destroy a tower all you get is 200 gold... So, Why not aswell as the 200gold make it that your creeps get a certain amount of attack and defense bonus per tower destroyed.

For example say I destroy a tower it would do this:

This would pop up on screen to all players--> "The Alliance has just destroyed a tower, therefor they are given 200gold and their creeps get +1 defense and + 5 damage"

Just an idea to make the creeps a bit more worth while and make it even more worth while to destroy all the towers on the map/protect your towers even more.


*Note: for this suggestion you don't have to use the towers, you could use the enemy creep spawning buildings instead or as well.*

Overall, the map is a fun for a multiplayer player AOS type map. It is a very fun game as there are a variety of heroes and custom items/spells which keep the game interesting. The map is also good because I didn't find any glitches/bugs/errors in the stuff that I tested. I would suggest this map to friends and people who like a customized AOS map and I would also suggest this map to friends as there are no bugs/glitches/errors that I found.

I Vote for Approval and would give it a 4/5 it doesn't get higher as their are still a few cons and things you could fix and a few things you could add to the game to make it better.

All in all hope you liked my review as much as I enjoyed playing your map,
Lag_Reviews P:

PS:Very good map in the making, keep up the good work, I can't wait to see what you bring it in the future

 

[Snizess]

Mana Master's Ultimate no delay and manacost??

 

[baassee]

1. It says red can now enter commands even when there isn't a player in the red slot (See suggestion pre-game commands)

2. Doesn't tell you what the pre-game commands are unless you read the F9 menu (see suggestion pre-game commands)
3. Some items can be clicked as though they summon something/have an ability or are consumable but they seem to do nuthing. (Some of the items I found which do this are the Gooses crit stick of Perpetual Necessity and Langmans Bulwark of Creep Murder)

4. Could add an upcoming updates log so we know what you are working on fixing/adding
5. Maybe you could add a youtube video of gameplay (This will attract more downloads if done well)

6. Custom loading screen
7. custom models for heroes, creeps, buildings, spells, items etc (Could help improve but isn't 100% necessary)
8. When you destroy all the enemies creep spawning buildings you should make it that a small majority of creeps still spawn otherwise the game is just too easy to win (Just an idea)

9.

Suggestion - Scoreboard

Just a few suggestions to help improve the pre-game commands and make them easier to enter.

I was recently playing and looking at the scoreboard it lists a very good range of things. Like the player name, hero name, how many kills and deaths you have.

Although I was thinking why not let it show what level a hero is as well.

I was thinking this could be done in 2 ways.


First way:


Where it says Player and then says for example Player 1 [Fluke Master] that it could be changed to Player 1 [Fluke Master level 5]

Then when the hero levels up in would change to Player 1 [Fluke Master level 6]

Second way:

This way is a bit different to the first way. I was thinking that next to the heading Players and before Kills that you could have a heading called level and under it would be the current level of all the players hero.

Then when the hero levels up, the number under the Level heading the number would change accordingly.

Just a suggestion hope you like it

10.

Suggestion - Creeps

I was thinking the creeps are there and don't really level up or do anything else then go fight and die.

So, I was thinking why not make them level up and make them a bit more important then just a unit that fights and dies?

How they would level up:

Well when you destroy a tower all you get is 200 gold... So, Why not aswell as the 200gold make it that your creeps get a certain amount of attack and defense bonus per tower destroyed.

For example say I destroy a tower it would do this:

This would pop up on screen to all players--> "The Alliance has just destroyed a tower, therefor they are given 200gold and their creeps get +1 defense and + 5 damage"

Just an idea to make the creeps a bit more worth while and make it even more worth while to destroy all the towers on the map/protect your towers even more.


*Note: for this suggestion you don't have to use the towers, you could use the enemy creep spawning buildings instead or as well.*

I loved it, just brilliant review I have to say. Will respond to the points, one by one.

1. Yeah I know, I should probably check if there is a single player game and the hosting should switch over. Thanks for reminding. Also you mentioned about if it is a game and no one plays red, how should they select mod? Well I probably add this host detection thingie then but as it isnt 100% correct it will cause a few problems.

2. Will be added for next version!

3. I think you are talking about the funny stuff near the wendys? Well as it has 1% chance, there is a bug in WCIII, if I remembered correctly crits with chance lower than 10-11% wont work. Will check it out further.

4. Well I recently added the update to the Editors Note but can add one. But my updates are quite spontaneous

5. Yeah I thought of it too, will be made sooner or later.

6. Maybe will be remade.

7. Well their are lots of custom spells actually (well triggered mostly). Model blah well dont want to increase the size, as you say not 100% necessary.

8. Will think about it, yeah I agree it is quite impossible to push that lane.

9. Will try to add the first way, thanks

10. That one was very unique, I'll try to add it

@vKael

nice video

EDIT:

1. and 2. are fixed for the next version.

 

[Cweener]

Review Time

1-10 Originality
1-10 Replayability (discounted for cinematics*)
1-10 Triggering (discounted for protected maps*)
1-10 Terraining
1-10 Object Managing (custom items and destructibles etc...)
1-10 Spells (if applies**)
1-10 Description
1-15 Engaging a.k.a. fun to play
1-15 Misc (size, system implementation, laginess etc...)
-100 or +100 for abiding by THW rules.
_{* = when one is discounted then other sections maximums are raised, and those sections are judged harder (if your map applies then it will show you what i raised later)
** = some maps dont really need spells so this section is discounted and given an automatic 10.}

Less than 100 = FF- (Reported, You clearly didnt abide by all of the posting rules, and i have reported you for (not) doing so.)
100-150 Points = F- (Rancid and Needs major work. Vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
151-160 Points = F (Bad and Needs work. vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
161-170 Points = D (Below Average and Needs much updating. has potential. vote for rejection and no +rep.)
171-180 Points = C (Okay but Needs updates. has potential. vote for rejection* and no +rep.)
181-190 Points = B (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval but no +rep)
191-199 Points = A (Great and probably has reached full potential**. good job. vote for approval and +rep.)
200 Points = A+ (Amazing, you did everything right and went all out, approval and +rep)
_{* = depending on the map really, and what categories it scored low in
** = not always but most cases.}

_{**triggering scores not available so other categories were raised by 1-2 points maximum.}

1-11 Originality *8* While it's individual ideas may not be original, the fact that you combined an AOS style map and a Hero Line Wars kind of map, is original as far as I've seen.
1-11 Replayability *11* Great with friends or with the AI
1-11 Terraining *7* well, I've seen better. even in an AOS map.
1-11 Object Managing *10* Good job here, although some of the tooltips were a bit lacking.
1-11 Spells *11* I must say, i did like the spells
1-11 Description *10* A good description, you should add Vkael's you tube movie to it
1-17 Engaging *15* gets a bit old after awhile. maybe make an option at the beginning for red to enable a hero duel every XX number of seconds. to spice it up a bit.
1-17 Misc *11* liked the size of it.Liked the system implementation, but it did lag quite a bit with a full house. sometimes it even dropped people. and i have a very nice Quad core 8 GB memory comp, so it was definitely the map.
-100 or 100 Rules *100*
0-200 All-in-all *183* (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval but no +rep) (in this case +rap was given, because i liked this map a lot personally.

If any map ive reviewed has been updated, feel free the ask me to re-review it. or if i haven't reviewed YOUR map, feel free to ask me.

 

[baassee]

Major update, version 3.2f is out! See Latest Changelog for the updates.

 

[baassee]

New official thread! You can find it here!

 

[Vengeancekael]

Your map is now featured in my website (actually blog xD). Website link or direct Master Arena Page
The website is still being moved from its previous domain and i am using a new engine thus remaking everything.

 

[baassee]

Your map is now featured in my website (actually blog xD). Website link or direct Master Arena Page
The website is still being moved from its previous domain and i am using a new engine thus remaking everything.

snap that is awesome!

thanks very much

 

[Vengeancekael]

No problem With your permission, could i add the file for download in the page?

 

[baassee]

No problem With your permission, could i add the file for download in the page?

Ofc you can Else you can just add the code of the Map Database or something

 

[Vengeancekael]

All right thanks, you should see all the versions in a few.
Edit: All of the map files have been uploaded.

 

[DaddaLe]

Hello i tried the map out with a friend.
However there are a few bugs you need to fix.

1. The Summoning Master's dragon spawn is bugged. (You can spawn dragon over and over again without anyone going away)

2. The Long Jump Splints don't work either.

These are the bugs i found so far.

Overall i good map 4/5.

 

[baassee]

Yeah I know about the spawns but it is meant that if the hero die, they all die. But I will add a limit.

The other one will I check on.

Thanks for playing

 

[baassee]

Version 3.3 is out!

 

[lepr]

in 3.3 there is an horrible bug, illusion master (or whatever the succubus is) can spawn like 100 illusions very fast (they spawn 1 by 1 but won't stop) but it only happened like against 1 or 2 guys, it would need a fix because if we don't have enough aoes by level 5-7 illusion master can finish the game with this :/

 

[baassee]

it isnt a bug, it is made like that but I can change that too (it's a bit awkward that sometimes it gains 50 charges.

 

[baassee]

Map got updated to version 3.3c featuring a new hero!

 

[Vengeancekael]

OMG, stop updating it so fast xD Now i have to update the website page again
Btw nice nice, will check the hero.

 

[baassee]

haha fast? I have to make it more stable you know webpage? didnt I update it?

 

[Vengeancekael]

Oh you update it? Thanks xD

 

[baassee]

Oh you update it? Thanks xD

heh yeah I did

 

[oddsocks]

Nice to see things ticking along. Nice work baassee

 

[dead-man-walking]

Holy peck. I haven't rated this 5/5?

 

[baassee]

Holy peck. I haven't rated this 5/5?

haha I think you have now

 

[fancy]

I'm testing it now for me!
This looks fun!

 

[baassee]

Sorry for this kind of necroposting and double post but it's about the update.

Version 3.4 will be the last version for a while. After this version is out (and maybe some small minor adjustments versions after) I will start work on Bloons TD again.

The new version will have 3 new heroes, got one complete and 2 half. New spells ofc, bug fixes and ALOT of gameplay issues such as armor types and armor values. The triggers have been adjusted with a new dummy system by me. Basiclly it's like xecast but uses only 1 dummy for all (some spells have their own dummies as they got a minor casting time).

 

[watermelon_1234]

Hm, I downloaded the map, but I can't play it... I'm pretty sure I have the most recent patch.

 

[calex3]

I cant open the map :S

 

[baassee]

@ watermelon1234

I'll look into it :S

@ calex3

It's protected

 

[baassee]

When I optimized it, it fucked up :S

I'm using vex's optimizer so I wonder what it is ...

 

[watermelon_1234]

This is a guess, but I'm assuming you imported Torment without changing anything, right?
Well, for some reason, Vex's optimizer doesn't work correctly with natives that you declare with Jasshelper. (Ex: UnitAlive)

One of the fixes is removing UnitAlive and replacing it with another alternative like GetWidgetLife(YourUnit) > 0.405 or checking the unit-type.

Torment w/o UnitAlive

//====================================
//Torment v1.01 by watermelon_1234
//====================================
//Required Libraries: TimerUtils
//====================================
//Copy Object Editor Data:
//*Torment ability
//*Torment buff
//*Torment unit
//====================================
scope Torment 
   
//*********************************
//Settings
//*********************************
    globals
        private constant integer    SPELL_ID            = 'A001' //The raw ID for the Torment spell
        private constant integer    BUFF_ID             = 'B000' //The raw ID for the Torment buff
        private constant integer    GHOST_ID            = 'h000'  //The raw ID of the Torment (Dummy) unit that will follow the target
        private constant string     BIRTH_SFX           = "Abilities\\Spells\\Undead\\AnimateDead\\AnimateDeadTarget.mdl" //Plays an SFX where the ghost will spawn
        private constant string     DAMAGE_SFX          = "Abilities\\Spells\\Undead\\DeathandDecay\\DeathandDecayDamage.mdl" //The effect that will play when the spell damages the target.
        private constant string     DAMAGE_SFX_ATTACH   = "head" //The attachment point for the DAMAGESFX
        private constant string     KILL_SFX            = "Objects\\Spawnmodels\\Undead\\UndeadDissipate\\UndeadDissipate.mdl" //The effect that plays when damage dealt from this spell causes the target to die.
        private constant real       BIRTH_OFFSET        = 75. //How far away the BIRTH_SFX should be played from the caster
        private constant real       TIMER_LOOP          = 0.25 //This refers to how many times the timer will run the function.
        private constant attacktype ATK_TYPE            = ATTACK_TYPE_NORMAL //Attack type of the damage
        private constant damagetype DMG_TYPE            = DAMAGE_TYPE_UNIVERSAL //Damage type of the damage
        private constant weapontype WPN_TYPE            = null //Weapon type of the damage
        private constant boolean    DO_PRELOADING       = true //Determine whether or not to preload the ghost unit and the special effects.
    endglobals
    
    //This function sets up how the ghost will look like and more importantly, its movement speed.
    private function GhostSetUp takes unit ghost, integer lvl returns nothing        
        call SetUnitVertexColor(ghost,255,255,255,100)
        call SetUnitMoveSpeed(ghost,165.+15*lvl)
    endfunction     
   
    //Max damage dealt to the target per second when the ghost is within MaxDamageDistance
    private constant function Damage takes integer lvl returns real         
        return 25.+10*lvl
    endfunction   
    
    //Duration of the buff.
    private constant function Duration takes integer lvl returns real        
        return 4.+1*lvl
    endfunction
    
    //The distance between the ghost and target unit when full damage will be dealt
    private constant function MaxDamageDistance takes integer lvl returns real        
        return 75.+25*lvl
    endfunction
   
    //The formula to calculate the damage with distance in mind
    private constant function DamageDistanceFormula takes integer lvl, real dist returns real     
        if dist <= MaxDamageDistance(lvl) then 
            return Damage(lvl) 
        endif
        return Damage(lvl)*MaxDamageDistance(lvl)/dist
    endfunction    
//***************************************************************************************************
//Actual coding of the spell below here. Don't touch unless you know what you're doing!
//***************************************************************************************************
    private struct Data         
        unit        caster
        unit        target
        unit        ghost = null //This unit will be created inside the struct. Null at first to show that it's not created yet.
        integer     level        
        boolean     buffed = false //The boolean will be used to detect when the target will receive the buff
        real        count = 0 //count will be used to prevent stacking
        //The following two variables will be used to check if the target has changed it location
        real        targetx
        real        targety
        timer t //Timer used for looping...
        
        static method create takes unit c, unit targ returns thistype
            local thistype this = thistype.allocate()
            local real cx = GetUnitX(c)
            local real cy = GetUnitY(c) 
            local real angle = Atan2(GetUnitY(targ)- cy, GetUnitX(targ)- cx) 
            set .caster = c
            set .target = targ
            set .level = GetUnitAbilityLevel(c,SPELL_ID) 
            set .t = NewTimer()
            call SetTimerData(.t, this)
            call TimerStart(.t,TIMER_LOOP,true,function thistype.onLoop)        
            call DestroyEffect(AddSpecialEffect(BIRTH_SFX,cx + BIRTH_OFFSET * Cos(angle),cy + BIRTH_OFFSET * Sin(angle)))
            return this
        endmethod
        
        static method onLoop takes nothing returns nothing
            local thistype this = GetTimerData(GetExpiredTimer())
            local real x = GetUnitX(.target)
            local real y = GetUnitY(.target)
            local real dist //Only made a variable for this because it made the UnitDamageTarget line too long
            if GetUnitAbilityLevel(.target,BUFF_ID) > 0 and not .buffed then
                set .buffed = true
            endif
            if GetUnitAbilityLevel(.target,BUFF_ID) > 0 and .buffed then
                if .ghost == null then //If it hasn't been created yet, create it.
                    set .ghost = CreateUnit(Player(15),GHOST_ID,x,y,0)
                    call GhostSetUp(.ghost,.level)
                endif
                //Checks if the target's x or y coordinate has changed. If so, move to its new coordinates.
                if .targetx != x or .targety != y then 
                    call IssuePointOrder(.ghost,"move",x,y)                
                    set .targetx = x
                    set .targety = y
                endif
                call DestroyEffect(AddSpecialEffectTarget(DAMAGE_SFX,.target,DAMAGE_SFX_ATTACH))
                set dist = SquareRoot((GetUnitX(.ghost)-x)*(GetUnitX(.ghost)-x)+(GetUnitY(.ghost)-y)*(GetUnitY(.ghost)-y))
                call UnitDamageTarget(.caster,.target,DamageDistanceFormula(.level,dist)*TIMER_LOOP,false,true,ATK_TYPE,DMG_TYPE,WPN_TYPE)
                //Play an SFX if it succeeded in killing it
                if GetWidgetLife(.target) < 0.405 then
                    call DestroyEffect(AddSpecialEffect(KILL_SFX,x,y))
                else
                    set .count = .count + TIMER_LOOP //We need to increase .count if the target is still alive.
                endif                
            endif         
            if .buffed and (GetUnitAbilityLevel(.target, BUFF_ID) < 1 or .count >= Duration(.level)) then
                call KillUnit(.ghost)
                call ReleaseTimer(.t) 
                call .destroy()                       
            endif            
        endmethod
        
        static method spellActions takes nothing returns boolean
            if GetSpellAbilityId() == SPELL_ID then
                call thistype.create(GetTriggerUnit(),GetSpellTargetUnit())
            endif
            return false //Never need to run any trigger actions
        endmethod
        
        static method onInit takes nothing returns nothing
            local trigger t = CreateTrigger()
            call TriggerRegisterAnyUnitEventBJ(t,EVENT_PLAYER_UNIT_SPELL_EFFECT)
            call TriggerAddCondition( t, Condition( function thistype.spellActions)) //Trigger conditions are faster than trigger actions
            //Preloading to remove lag
            static if DO_PRELOADING then
                call RemoveUnit(CreateUnit(Player(15),GHOST_ID,0,0,0))
                call Preload(BIRTH_SFX)
                call Preload(KILL_SFX)
                call Preload(DAMAGE_SFX)
            endif
        endmethod
    endstruct
endscope

 

[calex3]

I cant play it not just open it...does it require jass new gen or somehing :S

 

[baassee]

@watermelon1234

Oh right I didn't know that and all other spells didnt use unitalive so I think you're right

CAn't fix right now, I'm not home atm, when I come home I will fix this and a few other stuff

@calex3

yes it requires JNGP if you have an open version but it's protected atm so you can't open it with any editor, it will provide you an error either way

 

[wenzoui]

So you only optimized the code of the map?

I found a bug with one of the heroes.
The Illusion Master,when i used her move that makes illusions,it goes out of control and spams the hero everywhere.
Plz fix that bug!!!!!!!

 

[baassee]

I found a bug with one of the heroes.
The Illusion Master,when i used her move that makes illusions,it goes out of control and spams the hero everywhere.
Plz fix that bug!!!!!!!

That is certainly not a bug, it's just that she gains charges very fast in this game because of the size of the map and amount of units. But yes I will consider to reduce the amount of illusions or remake it.

 

[oldmilk]

When I first saw this map, it looked like a piece of crap AoS with bad grammar. Now I look at it, and say damn. This is the second best AoS I've ever seen.

Keep up the improvements!

EDIT: I found a bug where I(archery master) was playing with 1 friend(artillery master) and the rest of the players were AI. It involved the spamming of "Unable to create ~something something forgot~ of type: other" I have the replay of it.
It happened at around 14:40 elapsed time.