Famous Halo

[Anachron]

Halo Ingame
Like this?

 

[NearbyHermit]

Exactly!

 

[VeljkoM]

Will you consider AI for this map?

 

[Anachron]

I see bushes and stones on the terrain, don't you see the same?

 

[Ghost765]

have u ever played in blood gulch?
you obviously havent, since the only cover there is the hills.
all i did was flood the cave, add a river, fix the bunkers, and make the hill abit more foresty. If i added too many doodads, it would be to hard to move around. plus i dont know about SEE that much, so collision could be screwed up.

edit: i think i'll add teleporters...they had those in blood gulch, and they arent that hard to trigger.

 

[Anachron]

I never played Halo but I think you can make little small doodads which can be walkable.

 

[NearbyHermit]

The terrain is pretty simplistic,but everything else but Barren like!

 

[Ghost765]

halo 1's terrain was pretty simplistic. thats what made it fun.
and i would have to make SEE detect the walkable doodad's collision, and i dont know how. ask famous.

 

[FamousPker49]

As far as detecting doodads, they only need the walkable thing checked. Because it is then treated as part of the terrain, but in the exact shape of the model.

 

[Ghost765]

just curious famous, but are we ever gonna add more tilesets?

 

[Anachron]

Hm well ok, but I really don't like the tilesets which are used in this map. They don't fit that pretty together.

 

[Ghost765]

there isnt really much of an alternative.

 

[Anachron]

Wow fast answer...

Hmm I will check out and try to make it more realistic with the right tiles, I guess its hard. But I have to work right now. See u

 

[Ghost765]

im trying out custom sci-fi tilesets instead of the cityscape tileset which looks kinda ugly.
the only problem is if i dont know if famous wants to use WEU to add more tilesets.

 

[arphax214]

lol dude the camera is shitty its hard to aim enemy else where its good..put more cam option..

 

[FamousPker49]

lol dude that doesn't help at all. What the hell does more cam options mean? Either way today I was going to add in camera features so you can rotate/zoom in and out.

Go ahead and use WEU, I am using JNGP so I hope there won't be any conflicts.

Finished up the camera system.

 

[Ghost765]

i use newgen, i just dont use WEU since i've had it corrupt a completed mission in my campaign. but ill get too it so i just add more tilesets.

 

[43berries]

It's terrible, there's nothing special about it. The terrain is amazing, the camera system and how you shoot is OKAY. Work on a new weapon system. Plus, work on your fluency.

 

[Hawkwing]

It's terrible, there's nothing special about it. The terrain is amazing, the camera system and how you shoot is OKAY. Work on a new weapon system. Plus, work on your fluency.

A new weapon system? You gotta provide more information than that.

 

[Ghost765]

terrain is amazing? i thought it was kinda bare, even if i did terrain abit =\
And this is still being worked on, Famous has some nice stuff planned.
Offtopic: r u ever gonna release that dwarf vs orc map berries?

 

[43berries]

Let me elaborate:
1) I am pretty sure that your assault rifle spell is carrion swarm or breath of fire. There's a problem with that and the weapon projectile moves along the terrain and your terrain is hilly.
2) Camera system needs to be more dynamic, which I don't think can be done. (not sure)

Overall, if you just used the normal attack system for wc3, it would work well. In my Epidemic I'm using a target acquisition system where the first time you shoot your target you have a 80% chance of missing, second time 60% and so forth. If you get down to let's say 20%, you cannot walk away and walk back and have 20% miss chance. There is a specific time window for the system and then it switches back to 80.

Grenades can be more, grand and flashy.

3) Give me more and I'll try more and give you some criticism.

terrain is amazing? i thought it was kinda bare, even if i did terrain abit =\
And this is still being worked on, Famous has some nice stuff planned.
Offtopic: r u ever gonna release that dwarf vs orc map berries?

What Orc, dwarf map? The hell are you talking about?

 

[Ghost765]

but BoF/Carrion doesnt follow along with the terrain, i only thought shockwave did.
it was in the terrain board, either you or someone else posted pictures of a map where you play as either the orcs or dwarves in a northrend tileset.

 

[43berries]

If you let me, I can terrain your map and improve it more. That old project was dropped because I put the project down for a bit and when I came back my new ORPG's had so much more in it. All those spells follow the terrain...

 

[Ghost765]

oh...damn. was waiting for that one :'(
ok back ontopic.

 

[VeljkoM]

May I ask if you are planing on making AI for this map?

 

[43berries]

"oh...damn. was waiting for that one :'("
Well my ORPG magicka is going to be a kicker, so is my survival ORPG Epidemic.

 

[Ghost765]

Ai on this would be hard...real hard.
it would no how to dodge and such.

not much of an rpg fan. do you mind if i have the unfinished map if you still have it?

 

[VeljkoM]

Can't you find someone who knows how AI works?
But it is still great and will no doubt take over Battle net.

 

[Ghost765]

lol...yah right.
people usually leave in the first 10 minutes cause of em some gay respawn bug or if they get pwned too hard.

 

[FamousPker49]

43berries, it has nothing to do with the normal WC3 spells. Their only feature in the map is to detect when the player does shoot/throw a grenade.

The assault rifle does not move along the terrain. It is affected by a real gravity, and if you people knew anything about projectile motion you would know this. The bullet is always heading down. Never does it flow with the hills.

EITHER WAY let's stay on topic.

 

[Ghost765]

I think we should add shields famous. or make it somewhat easier on noobs. to play.

 

[Kwah]

AI wouldn't be all that hard . . . random events for the win.

 

[FamousPker49]

And yes, I don't think AI would be hard at all. And Ghost, what do you mean?

 

[VeljkoM]

Will you add cloak ability (one use for short time item), and covenant weapons.Or better give Elite unit to player.

 

[Ghost765]

cause em... like if you die X amount of times you get some bonus, like armor or such.
so it encourages people to keep playing, even if their losing. and if theyre the ones that are killing them, it gets challenging for them, so its more fun.

And shields, like rechargable shields from halo you know? something like manashield i guess.
And just a note, i think increasing the speed of the bullets would be a good idea.

 

[FamousPker49]

I was thinking about covenant's and I was actually animating a model Kimberly made, but lost it in a comp crash. So maybe not. But I see what you are saying ghost.

 

[43berries]

"43berries, it has nothing to do with the normal WC3 spells. Their only feature in the map is to detect when the player does shoot/throw a grenade.

The assault rifle does not move along the terrain. It is affected by a real gravity, and if you people knew anything about projectile motion you would know this. The bullet is always heading down. Never does it flow with the hills.

EITHER WAY let's stay on topic."

No, it doesn't drag that drastically and is way off from the Halo weapon system. What you have is good for artillery, an AR is no an artillery piece, mozzletoff. Don't try to question my intelligence in this, you'll fail.

 

[Hawkwing]

This isn't supposed to be an accurate recreated of Halo. If it was it would be called Wc3:Halo. But this is Famous Halo, where we simply take ideas and conceptions from Halo and use them in a Warcraft III map. If you want the Halo Weapon System please go elsewhere.

 

[FamousPker49]

I purposely set it up so that the projectile motion was visibly evident. I guess only a few appreciate it. Either way, what Hawkwing said.

 

[Ghost765]

it just looks kinda funny and is different from what we expect from a bullet trajectory since alot of us play shooters like CoD
if u want to keep it, i dont mind.

 

[FamousPker49]

I've been playing Gears of War all day. I know what a real shooter is supposed to be like. I will tone it down a bit.

 

[Ghost765]

i like sawing aliens in half and watching all the gore spurt out onto the screen. especially when i saw the same locust in half with another player.
edit:annyways. i wont be able to edit the terrain for another day or so since i have a huge school project to finish by wednesday. on thursday i'll be heading off on christmas break, and probably wont be able to upload the updated terrain for about 2 weeks.

 

[FamousPker49]

Hopefully soon the thread will be cleaned. Either way, any progress from you two guys?

 

[Ghost765]

i dont have many ideas for another arena, maybe a forest as somebody earlier mentioned. or an indoors map.
or maybe like a map where you assault their fortress and attempt to capture their flag and return it to your little forward base. Kinda like a 1 Flag CTF.
You gonna keep that Trench arena famous?

 

[FamousPker49]

Yes I am, currently, I am doing some work on vehicles with turrets controllable by different players. I was just wondering if you had done any doodad work with the trench was all.

 

[Ghost765]

i just dont know what doodads too put there. If we add rain, i might add puddles. we would need to add a cloudy sky doodad though.
i requested some WWI era trench doodads like barbed wire and tank trap type things in the request forum,just waitin for answers.

 

[HINDYhat]

wauw dis is awezum i wunder who iz 2 pro 2 make units fly like dat plx tel how u did??????????

5.6/5

 

[Ghost765]

coolio! its hindyhat! +rep to you for making famous halo possible. and giving me a job. indirectly.

 

[Kwah]

wauw dis is awezum i wunder who iz 2 pro 2 make units fly like dat plx tel how u did??????????

5.6/5

Paint.

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Moving on, it will happen eventually Pker.

 

[Ghost765]

Pretty big update on trench. First of all triggering, im pretty sure i triggered everything correctly so you can select trench and play all 3 modes on it.
I've added clouds, but their real white. their primary purpose is to "white" out the wc3 sky ingame, since i changed the weather to extremely heavy rain(two regions overlapping both set to rain).
I've also changed the terrain abit, and added sniping spots for both teams, so people cant just always camp.
The first trench has been fortified with rolls of barbed wire, althought there are three gaps in which players can storm in and out.
Pathing blockers are properly placed on the barbed wire.
I havent done any other doodad work, or pathing blocker work.

EDIT: Pathing blockers finished, Hedgehog tank traps placed near/on barbed wire and on the no-mans-land. Map is playable.
Havent tested it yet however.
The trenches themselves lack doodads, expect changes later.

EDIT2: best not play this map, for famous' viewing only. its quite buggy, whenever host killed someone, it revert to choose objective/map.
and we really need the WASD movement system me thinks. cause its hard to move around in trench without clicking somewhere else. or make the camera something like elim tournament.