Scumbag Ankh...

[BloodDrunk]

How can I detect when Ankh is used?

Another question: How can I make unlimited reincarnation charges without having the number of charges on the icon?

 

[MortAr]

You need to detect when a unit with the item dies, that's the only way.

For the second part, tick "Perishable" to false and use "Reincarnation" as the item ability and set the cooldown only.

 

[Binsu]

How can I detect when Ankh is used?

Another question: How can I make unlimited reincarnation charges without having the number of charges on the icon?

I cant seeem to answer your main question but for your another question: You can make a trgger that when the unit dies and has an item, that tem is the Ankh, create ankh cross model (the model used when ankh takes in effect, the cross!), revive dying unit and dont turn off trigger. Because it seems impossible to make Ankh have unlimited revive with no charge.... I have tried it setting it to 0 charge, permanent classification and Perishable to false but didnt work. SO I suggest triggering it.

 

[BloodDrunk]

exellent good both of you
MortAr, I'm gonna need to cr8 MUI System for the first trigger then, but Idk how to make MUI triggers yet...
So I was wondering... maybe you do it?

 

[deathismyfriend]

Make a trigger w event unit dies. Make a condition unit has item type of ankh in inventory. Then for actions do what u need to.

 

[BloodDrunk]

Make a trigger w event unit dies. Make a condition unit has item type of ankh in inventory. Then for actions do what u need to.

I need to use waits because there is 5 second delay until unit reincarnates

 

[Binsu]

I need to use waits because there is 5 second delay until unit reincarnates

• Wait 5.00 seconds

Use this for the waits!

 

[deathismyfriend]

U have to options for mui w waits then. Well there's more than that but these are the easiest.
Events
Unit dies
Condition
Unit has item type of manipulated item equal to ankh
Actions
(Option1)
Wait 5.00 seconds
Revive triggering unit.
(Option2)
Custom script: local unit u = GetTriggerUnit()
Wait 5 seconds
Custom script set udg_tempUnit = u
Revive tempUnit

 

[defskull]

When unit dies under the effect of reincarnation, it doesn't actually gets registered by the event via A unit Dies.

Now, you need to understand the threshold for a unit to "die" is its HP to become less than 0.405 (0.404, 0.403,...,0.000).

Use this as condition to detect if the unit actually "die".

So, here's a trick to detect its "death" if the unit has Ankh equipped;

• Detect Ankh
  • Events
    • Unit - Blood Mage 0001 <gen>'s life becomes Less than 0.41
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Game - Display to (All players) the text: detected

But by using that event, it must refer to the pre-defined unit, so how do we refer to non-exist unit yet ?

We add those affected unit via trigger;

• Ankh Setup
  • Events
    • Map initialization
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Custom script: set bj_wantDestroyGroup = true
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units in (Playable map area)) and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Set unit = (Picked unit)
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • (unit has an item of type Ankh of Reincarnation) Equal to True
          • Then - Actions
            • Custom script: call TriggerRegisterUnitLifeEvent(gg_trg_Ankh_Detect, udg_unit, LESS_THAN, 0.405)
          • Else - Actions

• Ankh Detect
  • Events
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • -------- DO SOMETHING HERE --------

Since I don't know how those units get their Ankh, I just assume that those units get it at the start of the map.

If you could tell me exactly how those units get their Ankh, I might change the Event.

@deathismyfriend
Since dead unit that is not "fully" dies yet (having Ankh), they will not get registered by the Event - A unit Dies.
Therefore, you should use GetWidgetLife(unit) to detect whether the unit truly hits the limit or not.

 

[deathismyfriend]

I didn't know they didn't get classified as a dead hang when they have the ankh. Thx for telling me that.

You can however create a new item based of something other than ankh then change its pic an name to ankh and use my way as it should be more efficient than the other way u have to do it.

 

[defskull]

Well, it's not simple as it looks, that is why some people made a system for this.

As for unlimited charge of Ankh, follow these steps;
1. Create a new ability based off Reincarnation
2. Set Cooldown to 0
3. Set Required Level to 1
4. Apply this ability to the Item Ability (your Ankh item)
5. Change the item's Stats - Number of Charges to 0

 

[Binsu]

When unit dies under the effect of reincarnation, it doesn't actually gets registered by the event via A unit Dies.

Now, you need to understand the threshold for a unit to "die" is its HP to become less than 0.405 (0.404, 0.403,...,0.000).

Use this as condition to detect if the unit actually "die".

So, here's a trick to detect its "death" if the unit has Ankh equipped;

• Detect Ankh
  • Events
    • Unit - Blood Mage 0001 <gen>'s life becomes Less than 0.41
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Game - Display to (All players) the text: detected

But by using that event, it must refer to the pre-defined unit, so how do we refer to non-exist unit yet ?

We add those affected unit via trigger;

• Ankh Setup
  • Events
    • Map initialization
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Custom script: set bj_wantDestroyGroup = true
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units in (Playable map area)) and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Set unit = (Picked unit)
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • (unit has an item of type Ankh of Reincarnation) Equal to True
          • Then - Actions
            • Custom script: call TriggerRegisterUnitLifeEvent(gg_trg_Ankh_Detect, udg_unit, LESS_THAN, 0.405)
          • Else - Actions

• Ankh Detect
  • Events
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • -------- DO SOMETHING HERE --------

Since I don't know how those units get their Ankh, I just assume that those units get it at the start of the map.

If you could tell me exactly how those units get their Ankh, I might change the Event.

@deathismyfriend
Since dead unit that is not "fully" dies yet (having Ankh), they will not get registered by the Event - A unit Dies.
Therefore, you should use GetWidgetLife(unit) to detect whether the unit truly hits the limit or not.

How abut remove ankh''s revivng capabilites and let the trgger handle it? ANkh has no ability so if the unit holding it dies.. it is full dead because Ankh has no reviving capabilites anymore. Then let the trigger handle the reviving? is that somehow good?

 

[deathismyfriend]

That's what I said above in the edit lol. I'm not sure how good that would work tho its worth a try

 

[BloodDrunk]

well... there is more ways....
I must leave now, I'll return soon and give u map so you can make it....
Woah, 4 posts while me afk...

 

[defskull]

Check my post at #11 for unlimited charges of Ankh.
Also, why do you let the trigger to handle while the default revival system created by Blizzard is easier to be used ?

 

[deathismyfriend]

Cause the extra events and triggers are less efficient.
Considering all u need to do to revive something is
event
unit dies
Condition
Unit has item of type
Actions
Wait desired time
Revive triggering unit.

That's not hard at all and only a very short amount of lines

 

[defskull]

Because simply, dead unit without Ankh considered as dying unit while unit that dies while having Ankh considered to be Undead (literally).

There are 2 different matters here that you need to understand.
But if you still want to let trigger to handle all the reincarnation, why would you have that item in the first place ?
Just for dummy ?
If so, you should have told us earlier about this.

 

[deathismyfriend]

This isn't my post I'm just making suggestions lol. Adding all those events just seems like a bad idea to me.

 

[Binsu]

Well, we cant argue with defskull's knowledge but actually def's trigger is long but proves to be working

 

[defskull]

To me, Blizzard's default mechanics > Trigger Editor.
If Blizzard can handle reincarnation on its own, why should we ?
Unless, there is more than what we want, such as in DotA, why they let the trigger handle it ?
It's because they want to show timers in Timer Window, also, not to revive the unit at the same spot (just like Reincarnation does), and many things.

In this case, it's just a simple reincarnation issues, that should be done by default reviving mechanics of Blizzard.

 

[BloodDrunk]

Well, it's not simple as it looks, that is why some people made a system for this.

As for unlimited charge of Ankh, follow these steps;
1. Create a new ability based off Reincarnation
2. Set Cooldown to 0
3. Set Required Level to 1
4. Apply this ability to the Item Ability (your Ankh item)
5. Change the item's Stats - Number of Charges to 0

not working... Dies after 3 deaths

 

[Almia]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...-201641/?prev=search=Unit%20Event&d=list&r=20

It handles Resurrection events.

 

[defskull]

Give me the test map, The_blood.