Naga royal guard texture issues

[AnyNameYouWish]

Does anyone know what's up with this model? It drives me mad. No matter what skins I try, what edits I make to the skins, both the default and 67chrome's as you can see in the screenshot, there's always that black bit on the weapon. It's not a different geoset to the rest of the weapon. And that's after I did edits to the skins because by default, there's bits hanging off the fins and blade (2nd screenshot, no edits made to the skin in that one).

Note: I have a very rudimentary knowledge of model editing.

 

[tillinghast]

there's naga royal guard and there's naga myrmidon and i think you're applying it to the wrong one

edit: it looks like you're applying it to a custom model and not the default one

 

[AnyNameYouWish]

there's naga royal guard and there's naga myrmidon and i think you're applying it to the wrong one

edit: it looks like you're applying it to a custom model and not the default one

No, it's the Royal Guard. 67chrome made the skin to look like the Myrmidon from WoW. In the model editor screenshot I'm using Ujimasa Hojo's optimized model.

You can see in the 3D viewer here that the the skin doesn't map perfectly. I've tried to edit around that and always get the black bit. Even when I put it over the default skin and leave the weapon alone.

 

[tillinghast]

No, it's the Royal Guard. 67chrome made the skin to look like the Myrmidon from WoW. In the model editor screenshot I'm using Ujimasa Hojo's optimized model.

try it with regular model and see if there's any difference, maybe optimized version has adjusted wrap?
you could also try flipping the "wrap width" and "wrap height" in the texture options

edit: read the skin's description, it's for this custom model

Created the bulk of this for Misha's custom naga death-knight skin. He wanted naga belly scales and orange fins, which the naga from WoW essentially had-and thats the story behind this bad boy.

 

[AnyNameYouWish]

try it with regular model and see if there's any difference, maybe optimized version has adjusted wrap?
you could also try flipping the "wrap width" and "wrap height" in the texture options

edit: read the skin's description, it's for this custom model

I get this. (First screenshot) And the description says that 67chrome created 'the bulk' of the skin for the custom model. It has its own skin, and the one that 67chrome uploaded on its own is clearly meant to just got to the default Royal Guard.

I checked the 'wrap width' and 'wrap height' boxes in the texture options and it didn't look any different.

EDIT: I also find it interesting that in the Warcraft 3 viewer, the black bit I get when I try skin edits is invisible, as you can see in the second screenshot.

 

[tillinghast]

well i have no idea what it is, it doesn't map correctly to Ujimasa's, regular or even the Misha's death knight versions
i can edit the model for you though if you want, is it the "NagaRoyalGuardV.2.00.mdx"?

 

[AnyNameYouWish]

well i have no idea what it is, it doesn't map correctly to Ujimasa's, regular or even the Misha's death knight versions
i can edit the model for you though if you want, is it the "NagaRoyalGuardV.2.00.mdx"?

Yes- I prefer without hero glow. That would be fantastic of you, I'm making a map full of Naga and the Royal Guard is the only model I've not been able to get a custom skin on.

This skin, interestingly, wraps fine on the 3d viewer besides a small line a the top of the weapon and, according to one of the comments, a small hole in the back fin.

 

[tillinghast]

i have no idea what it is
the skin was released in 2009, perhaps these naga models were edited in post-2009 patches

 

[AnyNameYouWish]

i have no idea what it is
the skin was released in 2009, perhaps these naga models were edited in post-2009 patches

War3Patch.mpq doesn't have a Naga folder.
And thank you, idk what you did but the weapon is now seamless. Half of the hanging down head things are black though.

EDIT: I got it! (2nd screenshot) I think it was something to do with my skinning, and/or whatever model edits you did. I still don't understand why just downloading 67chrome's skin, and other Royal Guard skins had bits hanging off them or whatever, because I did some adjustments to fit the shape of the skin from your model, and it now fits. I thought that your skin was different from the one 67 uploaded, but no it's the same. Still got the black not-hair bits tho. I think they're meant to be transparent? Idk, I think there's still something wonky with the default model.

 

[tillinghast]

War3Patch.mpq doesn't have a Naga folder.
And thank you, idk what you did but the weapon is now seamless. Half of the hanging down head things are black though.

EDIT: I got it! (2nd screenshot) I think it was something to do with my skinning, and/or whatever model edits you did. I still don't understand why just downloading 67chrome's skin, and other Royal Guard skins had bits hanging off them or whatever, because I did some adjustments to fit the shape of the skin from your model, and it now fits. I thought that your skin was different from the one 67 uploaded, but no it's the same. Still got the black not-hair bits tho. I think they're meant to be transparent? Idk, I think there's still something wonky with the default model.

i didn't even notice them, you can see here that the model in the screenshots had the hanging bits chopped off in half
i think we've stumbled onto a site-wide conspiracy, notice how everyone else is quiet?
we're getting disappeared any moment now

 

[AnyNameYouWish]

i didn't even notice them, you can see here that the model in the screenshots had the hanging bits chopped off in half
i think we've stumbled onto a site-wide conspiracy, notice how everyone else is quiet?
we're getting disappeared any moment now

Conspiracy, or the model is an SCP object.

The 3D view of chrome's skin also has the hanging bits stop at half length.

Anyway thank you so much for fixing this! I don't think I have any rep to give but you deserve some.
I will not be online for a while due to sleep, NOT being disappeared.