Legacy of Kain defiance TEST 7b

[Moderator]

21:58, 16th Feb 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected

 

[Raziel_br]

Good Map

 

[Narrat0r]

This map is not good, it's GOD!

 

[Raziel_br]

=D

thanks!!!

I update, the points has not have incon, I edit ant put the attribute bonus incon

 

[Narrat0r]

Actually, this is what I think:

+Good gameplay
+Nice following the story

-A little buggy movement
-Bad terran

Improve those 2 a little bit.

 

[izaiphovias]

Ah, the so clasic Legacy of Kain, i was a fan on this game in PS1, i'm going to test your version right now, only one thing: this isn't a campaing file, change the type to RPG. Expect a review soon...

 

[Handycombinder]

Can't review it now as i havent got WC on this PC, but i noticed a few things:

requires 2 players to win the game

The map is only for 1 player, isen't it?

Use the Keyboard to Move

WTF!?
The points icon is green.
Making review later

 

[izaiphovias]

Ah, mais um brasileiro!!! xD

Review:

my review

[-]Fatal Error: there is nothing more to say about that, only: fix that damn error, the game is good but that error don't help!
[-]Horrible Attack Animation: remove Raziel's hit animation, this cancels his attack animation, and make the attack weird.
[+-]Weird Terrain: the terrain isn't so bad, but still no good, practice more your terraining or find someone to help you with this
[+-]Weird Movement: an arrow keys movement is a good idea, but your arrow keys movement system is making the character to move strangely, fix that, remove the arrow key movement or improve it
[+-]Bad Camera: the game camera is too far from the character and in a horrible angle, change the camera to a bit more horizontal and closer one
[+-]Typos: everyone makes typos it is common, despites they are a minor error you need to fix them, typos makes the game weird
[+-]Weird Cinematic: the start cinematic is strange, you don't used camera fading an the cameras moves arround the map insted of instantly gets to a point, fix that
[+-]No Singleplayer: try to make this map for singleplay too, add a randicap reduce system to reduce the game difficulty.
[+-]Gameplay: the gameplay idea is good, but many bugs prevents it to be how it would to be

Rating: 2/5, the game idea is good, you can make it a high quality map by fixing the may bugs and errors in it, but that isn't hard, you have potential, only need to practice more and pay more atention to those minor bugs.

 

[Raziel_br]

Can't review it now as i havent got WC on this PC, but i noticed a few things:

Quote:
requires 2 players to win the game

The map is only for 1 player, isen't it?

Quote:
Use the Keyboard to Move

WTF!?
The points icon is green.
Making review later

Requires one player on slot 1 and one player on slot 2

Ah, mais um brasileiro!!! xD

Review:

my review
[-]Fatal Error: there is nothing more to say about that, only: fix that damn error, the game is good but that error don't help!
[-]Horrible Attack Animation: remove Raziel's hit animation, this cancels his attack animation, and make the attack weird.
[+-]Weird Terrain: the terrain isn't so bad, but still no good, practice more your terraining or find someone to help you with this
[+-]Weird Movement: an arrow keys movement is a good idea, but your arrow keys movement system is making the character to move strangely, fix that, remove the arrow key movement or improve it
[+-]Bad Camera: the game camera is too far from the character and in a horrible angle, change the camera to a bit more horizontal and closer one
[+-]Typos: everyone makes typos it is common, despites they are a minor error you need to fix them, typos makes the game weird
[+-]Weird Cinematic: the start cinematic is strange, you don't used camera fading an the cameras moves arround the map insted of instantly gets to a point, fix that
[+-]No Singleplayer: try to make this map for singleplay too, add a randicap reduce system to reduce the game difficulty.
[+-]Gameplay: the gameplay idea is good, but many bugs prevents it to be how it would to be


Rating: 2/5, the game idea is good, you can make it a high quality map by fixing the may bugs and errors in it, but that isn't hard, you have potential, only need to practice more and pay more atention to those minor bugs.

Like the name said, the map are one test version, this is not the 1.0, I made only 50% of the map, the cinematcs are bad, and have some bugs, I will make more test versions, when the map be 100% I will post the 1.0

thanks for said your review, but don't vote still, the true version I will post coming soon...



well, have more thing god than bad,

^^

Brasil é foda, me adiciona ai cidadão xD


what is :

"[+-]Typos: everyone makes typos it is common, despites they are a minor error you need to fix them, typos makes the game weird"

can you talk in portuguease?

 

[Super-Sheep]

Where you got the Raziel model? Most of the animations seem to be ripped from Wow's undeads.

 

[Raziel_br]

warcraft unlimited, seach there, I post the model, but give credts to tenebis

 

[Melshisedek1]

Hi your map is not bad sofar and some of is is real fun.

The hero progress is fun and the idea of changing from spectral plane to material plane is pretty interesting the way you have decided to do it. Good idea.

Some of you ideas to simulate the Legacy of Kain figures and environment are fun to. I had some of my own working on a similar game to.

But the controls are annoying. Especially when doing normal attack. I think you should stick with mouse?!

And there is alot of work left to do with terraining, Naybe ask someone trustworthy that can improve your terrain. The cliffs in WC/ are not so good looking I have to deal with that myself ... I am just starting to do better terraining. I remember on my starwars map Olofmoleman offered to give me a hand to improve my terrain and I accepted the help.

I am working myself on a Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver map.

If you care you can look at some pics in request on this link.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...acy-of-kain-map-need-skins-and-models-137678/

Hopefully someone will help and give us better models and skins to work with... for the fun of all who like the Nosgosthic imaginary world.

OK take care and finish that map improving it if you have enough time and will left. I know how much it can be demanding sometimes even if we like working on a project.

 

[Raziel_br]

I know about the Nosgoth.net


UPDATADET!!

 

[izaiphovias]

Testing right now...

 

[Raziel_br]

^^

you have garena?
we can play on Garena, you are brazilian to the ping can be small

 

[Breeze_in]

Hey man checked your map out, think the camera was done very well, just the typos in the cinimatic kinda ruin it. could be a real fun game with 2 ppl after all has been sorted

 

[Raziel_br]

this is the test version the cinematc and the other thingsare only to you see the history, the best is coming soon!!

xD

will some 10 test version, because I'm fix one bug and post a new test, now I'm fix the attack animation and add one camera on the pilar cinematc

 

[TheHunterKiller]

Testing!

EDIT: Let's see... There's lots of typos you might want to fix, like the tooltips. The fighting system is AWESOME. Nice models you have there, though Kain has no death animation? The camera thing bugs a little... The story was okay. I looked in the questlog and saw the non-english quests, you might want to change them to english.

Now the terrain. Well, it's flat, needs more tile variation and hills. Oh, also you could put a sky in the map.

The spells were awesome though a bit buggy. Teleport strike can teleport me faaaaar away.

Hmm. Rating... 2/5.

 

[Latecat]

I was testing with hunter and i would say the same things.
2/5.
1 thing he forgot to mention:The movement was very buggy.

 

[Raziel_br]

this is test, I will but oher keyboard moviment

 

[izaiphovias]

Testing!

EDIT: Let's see... There's lots of typos you might want to fix, like the tooltips. The fighting system is AWESOME. Nice models you have there, though Kain has no death animation? The camera thing bugs a little... The story was okay. I looked in the questlog and saw the non-english quests, you might want to change them to english.

Now the terrain. Well, it's flat, needs more tile variation and hills. Oh, also you could put a sky in the map.

The spells were awesome though a bit buggy. Teleport strike can teleport me faaaaar away.

Hmm. Rating... 2/5.

If you look better there are english and non-english quests... =/

 

[Raziel_br]

UPDATED!!!

***************
Update Test 5

Rechanged the Camera
Used the best arrow moviment and put on run on the moviment, Thanks Tige_R
=D
*****************

 

[TheHunterKiller]

If you look better there are english and non-english quests... =/

Oops XD.

 

[Raziel_br]

yes, have, have portuguease and english quests

I don't change the name but I update again because the camera bug

 

[VampireofBlood]

just for 2 players?

 

[Raziel_br]

yes, the single player will have comig soon, I reupdate but not change the name, I has post one bad version: the player 1 has computer

 

[Melshisedek1]

Bat form spell

Hi again Raziel_br. I really liked the way you wen't about getting that bat effect of batform Kain.

We need originallity to go about findings way to get similar effects of LOK games using what is at our hand with WC3.

But I also have the models Tenebis had done for bat form. Unfortunatly they are ridiculously huge in size so unsuable in multiplayer.

If your friend can downsize them dough then maybe we can make use of those spell models. He should bring them both atleast below 100k (combined) if that is possible.

 

[Raziel_br]

humm

thanks!

 

[Raziel_br]

I will not import a lot of models, I can use in my map

^^

 

[Psf_Kurt]

watching this map made me reinstall soulreaver 2. playing it atm
i still havent played defiance, is it any good?

i only tested your "test 2" map, will keep an eye on this custom map

 

[Psf_Kurt]

btw, change the skill description on Kain when upgrading to new level on blink strike, it says something like its a AoE stun (atleast on the test version i tried)

 

[Raziel_br]

but the AEO is equal

 

[MrGRieVeR]

Good map,i liked it a lot

 

[Raziel_br]

^^

It's a test, the cinematcs are bugged, I will fix this when I can