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GilneasWoman.BLP

Submitted by varsaigen
This bundle is marked as substandard. It may contain bugs, not perform optimally or otherwise be in violation of the submission rules.
A replacement texture for the Villager Woman. This is a villager from the Walled nation of Gilneas.

Not much to change on the Female Villager skin, but I did my best to mimic the appearance of one of the Gilnean wardrobes.

Please do not alter or redistribute without proper permission.

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If this is approved, I think I could create some of the other designs, to give you all some variation. :)


Update: More free-hand on the dress. The blindingly white shirt is now grayer. Cloth texture used to give more detail. )It appears to tint the clothes grayish. :/ So clothes are not as rich in color as they used to be.

Upadte2: Changed colors of dress to a more olive-green color, and her hair is now black.

Keywords:
Woman, villager, female, Worgen, human, Gilnaes, innocent, Greymane, Wall, Manor, Cataclysm, World of Warcraft, peasant, varsaigen
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GilneasWoman.BLP (Texture)

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15:00, 15th Apr 2011 shiiK: Cleaning up skins that have been rejected (until updated) for more than a month - moving to rejected permanently due lack of updates since last moderation. No new review of the skin has been made. If you feel that this...
  1. 15:00, 15th Apr 2011
    shiiK: Cleaning up skins that have been rejected (until updated) for more than a month - moving to rejected permanently due lack of updates since last moderation. No new review of the skin has been made. If you feel that this decission is wrong, or if you want to update the skin, please reply to this PM and I'll work it out for you. As this is a preset message, and I'm just picking up each and every skin in the category, I want to apologize beforehand if this clutters your inbox.

    20:30, 12th Dec 2010
    shiiK: Read my moderation comment(s) before you update this again.

    13:00, 5th Dec 2010
    shiiK: I honestly wonder where this roughly 75% freehand you speak of is located. I see you've changed the upper part of the gown, around her chest, and that you've recoloured a few other parts. Beyond that, you've done nothing to satisfy the criteria for approval.

    I suggest you wipe the entire original skin, make it grey, and then work your way from scratch to remake the Gilnean villager. The chest part, the one that you freehanded, is entirely flat. You've done no shading to it. The buttons you've made are yellow, while I think they are made of gold, bronze or copper in the concept. The bodice is dark grey, with a tint of blue, in the concept, while yours is a bleak grey that is slightly too bright. The lower part of the gown is brown, like the Lordaeron villager's gown, with some hints of grey recolour. The concept, however, has a slightly green, but mostly dark grey, gown with a white piece of cloth hanging from the waist. Furthermore, the woman in the concept has covered arms and red hair.

    The main issue, however, is not really the choice of base colours, but the lack of depth and definition - not to mention you've kept most of the original skin. There's so much more you can do, yet you deny the very possibility to change any more.


    14:06, 30th Nov 2010
    shiiK: Inadequate amount of freehand and originality. Rejected.
     
  2. darkdeathknight

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    This look way too similar to original.
     
  3. varsaigen

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    Yeah, well, not much to change on a still-human villager. Only difference are the clothes, and the hairband, really. Oh, and her breasts are covered better, making her more decent.

    Other than the "uncreativity" of it, what can I change to improve it? But who knows? It might prove useful in a Worgen/Gilneas map. The dress and everything is based upon a Gilnean NPC
     
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    Well, I don't really know what a Gilneas woman is so I can't really help you.
    Maybe you could lightly make thread weaves on the clothes? I don't really know.
     
  5. varsaigen

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    Ah! Finally! Here is the picture I wanted to show you as proof. :) The one I used is third woman. (Going from left to right)
     
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    I recommend - change the hair color - to the black color. Gilneas is now dark place, i think black haired villager would match perfectly.
     
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    Maybe on the next variation. :p From what I saw in Cataclysm, there were a lot of people with brown-ish hair. Besides, with black hair, it is harder to see the detail, and might as well be a black blur at a distance. :/

    Maybe it can be a bit darker, but I don't want to make it too dark, or we won't see it at all.
     
  8. darkdeathknight

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    But if you so black, you can do shiny white highlights.
    The woman on the right has a beard...and is muscly. :O
    Yeah, just do more proper texture for the cloth.
     
  9. Misha

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    oho.. nice to see a skin from you var :)

    but yeah.. it isn't that much edited so it wouldn't fit hive standards, maybe you should add something more :)
     
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    It's kind of hard to put in a cloth texture without making it look like a potato sack, in my experiance. So I'm not sure exactly what it is you want me to do.

    And I really don't see any beard on her what so ever. I didn't change the face.
     
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    That was a joke, about the beard. Cos the ref image has a man on the right.
    Im not sure how to make it look like cloth, but ask a pro or something. I'm not good at cloth-stuff as well.
     
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    isn't this rejected?
     
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    Until I improve it. But I don't see why it would still be rejected if I continue to improve it. I've made sure to freehand roughly 75% of it. But really, how much more original could one be with the Villager Female model?

    How do I know it isn't completely rejected? Because I found it in the "Until Fixed" list for skins. So there is still a chance of getting it approved.

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    On another note... it would be helpful to inform me on what exactly I can improve on, other than "more freehand". Shadows, edges between colors like brown and white, coloration, etc.

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    Oddly, when I look at other skins, I see more comments critiquing it. This thread seems to be full of silly... It's just... odd. Oo

    As for origionality... I noticed that there were only 7 other Villager Female skins on Hive. Only two of those were in the same role as a villager, and some of the others were royalty. So, I do not see how having another villager skin would hurt. It looks nothing like the others, and they were taken with good reception.
     
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    looks the same as the original.. why would anyone download this?
     
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    The main reason why everyone is say this looks the same as original is the colour. Even though now it would be different to the concept, it will have to be changed.
     
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    As the origional what? The villager texture blizzard made? Or the origional Gilneas texture I made, where the dress lacked freehand? All of her clothes are now fully free-handed. I didn't mess with the face, for fear of screwing it up. But really, if there is no point of downloading such a skin, why would anyone else want to download the other villager skins that fulfill the same purpose as this?

    Gilneas, as a nation of its own, has different styles, and customs than Lordaeron has. Thus, the clothes will be different. Do I really need to give a comparison?

    Well here you go. -.-
    villager_comparison.jpg
    Does she look just like the Blizzard counterpart? -.- As for the first version of the skin, this is more detailed, with more free-hand in it. Just like with the seven other female villager skins.

    So... what colors do you propose? Bright reds and yellows? Or a dreary black (already used by another skin)? It wouldn't really be based upon a Gilnean dress if I didn't stay true to the design and colors, right? Dark colors fit Gilneas, and dark colors, this one has. Tell me, what do I need to change to make it acceptable? (not just "colors" but specifics so I can try to match it)
     
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    the problem is that we have too needy community, always demanding 200% freehand, like.. redone hair, freehanded dress, redone face, redone arms, shadows and highlights maxed, and even redone pupils :p Overkill much?

    yeah you can whine about it as much as you want, but if you don't see the usefulness of the skin... well too bad for you :p



    back to the topic, since i followed the making of this skin on msn, i can say you did a lot more than it was before, var =)
     
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    I like this skin, but I do agree, black hair would fit much better ^^

    Tis a good one Var
     
  19. darkdeathknight

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    Look man, I was just trying to help. I don;t know what colours you need, I don't know what a Gillean or whatever is. Im just saying maybe you should consider changing colour was because most people, think its too similar to the original.