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Filters Unallowed

Discussion in 'Texturing & Surfacing' started by PurgeandFire, Apr 27, 2007.

  1. PurgeandFire

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    Though I'm a map maker and not a skinner/icon maker/ art maker or whatever, I have a small question about it.

    Are filters unallowed or frowned upon? I've recently heard the word "filters" before. I don't think I entirely know what it means, but I think I have an idea. :emote_smile:

    Thank you!

    P.S. Not that I have done it before, but is pirating skins against the rules? Just wondering for no apparent reason. :p
     
  2. Kimbo

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    "but is pirating skins against the rules"

    pirating ? Stealing? Yes. VERY. I frown upon both major cnp,filter,dodge,burn,smudge and tube work.

    If you want to skin, you manually do it by freehand using brushes manually.

    Filters are when you apply a form of layer to change the outlook of something, eg Wood Texture or Sandstone or Water or Gloop filter. They are bad, they give out a horrible output and many people do not know how to use them properly and the filters purpose was for graphical work, not artwork.

    Tubes are pictures of leafs and flowers or blops of animals.

    Cnp is just copy and pasting off other things, whether it be off peoples work or photos.

    Dodge tool is when you apply a horrible light scar or light burn. People think you shade by doing that but they are wrong.

    Burn is the opposite of dodge, it burns horrible shading into things, people too think thats how you shade dark colours but they TOO are wrong.

    Smudge, people think thats how you blend and mix things, no..you don't..its horrible..it gives an obvious and messy result and only 1/100 people know how to actually use it properly.

    As for smudge,burn and dodge, don't use them when your starting out, mainly advanced..and i mean VERY advanced people can control them properly and for the right purposes.
     
  3. Daminon

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    Then I must ask why does evey tutorial use those tools? Everywhere you see that smudge is 'teh tool'. It's like "paint this blah blah, and now smudge everything".
     
  4. Jacek

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    SHUT UP Daminon! Your god TDR said to NOT USE SMUDGE
     
  5. Daminon

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    Uh... I'm just wondering.
     
  6. Kimbo

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    My advice is not to, its because smudge is the "easy way out" and so called "quicker" and its often shown by either people that don't know how to use it or the people that do.

    Ever since i stopped smudge, i advanced pretty well i think, aswell as Afro,Falco,Nirvana and Denu.
     
  7. Mechanical Man

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    Trust me, Afro would agree that hes tut sucks, and the insomnia tuts are old, im VERY sure the artists don't use smudge much anymore or ...well..some i know just stopped art/texturing completely :{
     
  9. Daminon

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    I'm a bit curious, how do you make those nice smoke or flame effects on free hand. :>
     
  10. Denu

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    Back when my skins were dodged/burned I had little or no control of the end product and how they turned out was... completely utterly and totally atrocious. Haven't touched the stuff since.
     
  11. PurgeandFire

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    Thanx for the help. :)
     
  12. Kimbo

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    huh? freehand with what? Tablet or ..as in painting? On the skin?

    and im happy about Denu :emote_love:
     
  13. Daminon

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    Brush only.
     
  14. NiRVaNa_87

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    TDR posted a video (here) where he makes a texture the EXACT same way that he did that "useless" blob.
     
  15. Mechanical Man

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    Yeah, I saw that.

    If it would be avalaible to the public, maybe :thumbs_down:
     
  16. THE_END

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    Yes smudge is bad
    But I will not tell a lie
    I do use it..:p
     
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    Hmmmm... I haveta say I disagree with you on a few things here, and agree with some too....

    -It can look good IF they know how to use it, if they are noobs and just set it too 100% then of course its gonna look crap, but, with the right strength and a few other changes(Shadow, Highlight, Midtones, flow), it can look ok.

    -Again, in the right hands it is a good tool, once you change the settings, (strength, Shadow, Highlight, Midtones, flow) it can look good.

    -Smudge by itself, does indeed look crap. But I use a 'zig-zag' motion with it and it normally comes out ok, if it looks strong use the blur tool to carefully
    edit it.

    -I agree totaly with you on this, until you know how to use them, dont use them on models, just keep practicing and learn what settings do what