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Cherrymage
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damn its been ages
Daffa
Daffa
Surprised that you read these old conversations 😅
Cherrymage
Cherrymage
was looking up past roleplay stuff but yeah lol
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Trying to get inspirations?
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yeah lol and also make shoutouts/references

but its more like how MO3 and APRA2 reimagines RA2YR
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Curious, as a novel or as a campaign or something else?
Cherrymage
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Hopefully and most likely a series of novels (+ spinoffs).

I've also daydreamed about making indie games for my worldbuilding too

Wait, no, make that two series of novels.

The second series will be the most similar to RACC roleplays, but will only happen halfway through the first series

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Some stuffs I have in mind:

The Magic Kingdom redacted

NullMagic redacted

Renegade Covenant redacted

Union of Magiet Socialist Republics + Republic of China redacted
(P.S. a pity the acronym is one letter short of RACC!)​

Kuomintang of China redacted
(see Realm of Artisan Councildoms)​

Insurgency of Vestrope, i.e. Kingdom of Vestrope redacted
(t'is quite ironic lol)​

Crimson Star redacted

Sacred Republic of China + Regime of the Rising Sun redacted
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That's interesting. I'm more into casual reading so when the novels are starting out, do inform :D

Probably better start with one first, just to reduce potential distractions. You know, everything look shiny till the first brick hits.

Curious with the Russian-like names. I take it this is something tied to the in-world naming conventions? :D
Daffa
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Almost forgot to mention, I cannot open Reddit unless I use VPN or such, due to censorship.
Cherrymage
Cherrymage
Oh, nice timing! I've drafted several chapters for the first novel 👀

But the catch is it ain't getting close into any RACC nostalgia yet, but starts anew (at first)

Here's a cheesy thing I've written:
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Fun fact:
I have more ideas and motivations for the second series lmao​

P.-S. oops sorry I forgor about the ban 💀😢

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oh and i've sent them draft chapters thru discord. enjoy!
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Oh, and for the naming conventions, more or less kind of? There's also some Sanskrit inspirations in the name REDACTED iirc

through I also draw from other sources like Austronesian languages, Tajiki Persian, French, Hokkien, Cantonese, and Japanese. depends

(almost forgor to answer you bout the names)

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I'll check Discord then.

Ah, the opening kinda reminds me of classic chinese novels. Not bad per se, though I might be too accustomed to accelerated conflict stories :p Regardless, I'll check them out.

Interesting choices of language sources. If you ask me, the selection of names can influence the initial market for the story entry ^^
Cherrymage
Cherrymage
Thanks!

Interesting remark on the opening, didn't expect that resemblance lol. I came up with that idea after coming across all the loan shark stories in Malaysia (where they splat red paint, harass relatives, and even go Pyro/Arsonist).

Oh yea, almost forgor: there's also an RACC reference/shout-out of some sorts very early on in the story. Well, if you include the spinoff roleplays as RACC lore, that is.

The loan sharks and thugs at the beginning are inspired by the Renegade Covenant.

The Renegade Covenant was initially introduced for a spinoff roleplay (Terranova) by @Edge45. (Pastebin Entry)


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Speaking of names and markets, I hope I can get the story out in at least Southeast Asia. Hopefully at least in Indonesia and in Philippines if all goes well.

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Daffa
Daffa
Speaking of names, depending on the plot, probably I lean better on either western, malay, or chinese names (yes, chinese-like names like Zhou Fu) for Indonesia market. From what I recall, these three works best for digital novels. Specific for eastern fantasy setting, the more preferred ones tend to utilize chinese-based names like the one I linked. If you lean to western fantasy, western names are preferred. For fantasy, the market here tend to lean to cultivation-like with conflict between sects type stories, as well as "secretly powerful protagonist" archetype is preferred from what I read.

There is always room to try and experiment, and the market for the digital novels tend to shift rather fast in my opinion, so as long as there are interesting components, I think it can work out regardless. This might be very different in other countries, including Philippines.
Daffa
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Personally, talking as a hobbyist writer, I always encourage people to stick with their gun and show uniqueness (even with my editorial background, I usually just f the rules and write what I enjoy on my new personal pen name -to be released-). However, as a former editor, reading the target market is the go-to if the count of success is based on number of views or income generated, not the joy of writing itself.

If you ask me, that is an interesting combination, though I failed to notice aturi and the indo-malay correlation at a quick glance :p
The fusion might cause confusion to the uninitiated, but once they get invested, these kinds of stuff are interesting to nitpick out of the book :D
Cherrymage
Cherrymage
Nice. A lot of my names are mostly blends of Western and Austronesian (mostly Malay, Cebuano, and Tagalog) roots

Conflicts between sects? 🔥🔥🔥 Yes! Delicious! Oh, we're in for a ride! (Though not sure whether I can catch up to the fast and furious markets)

I always hope to tell my own story and share my worldbuilding, so I'm rather glad there's some space for me to try out my ideas

Yep I enjoy putting these sorts of linguistic roots as easter eggs out in the open lol. It's like a very side-questy treasure hunt.

In-universe though, nobody's gonna know what is Persian or Sanskrit cuz it ain't Earth and Earth ain't a thing in my world.

For names and slogans I'll likely create some fictional languages, but ofc the stories themselves will mainly be told through either English or Indonesian for now. Kinda like how Tolkien did it. Fun fact: Tolkien came up with his own languages first before creating his world to house his languages iirc

But other than such "easter eggs out in the open", I hope also to inspire lore discussions like in r/warcraftlore and in the Mental Omega server, except with less whining lol

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I think there's always room for everything as long as it is exceptional enough for the readers to get vested within the first few chapters (they say don't judge book by the cover, yet readers exactly are that). In general, the following are what I recall from my editorial days. Not mandatory to follow, but it might help getting better attention.
1. Golden Chapters: 3-5 initial chapters will set in stone whether your book will succeed or fail, so these chapters are recommended to be on the heavier side of the conflict to start off the story (a major "fall" that invokes the story, for example getting public humiliation for a very powerful person, major loss that sets the plot into motion).
2. Conflict Cycle: For digital novels, there should be a smaller conflict that spans around 3-5 chapters to keep retention; the bigger conflict is attached along these small conflicts (think of the big conflict as a crumpled wool, while each phase of the untangling the wool as smaller conflicts).
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