Palin, yes, this is true, and i suppose i am going against what i said in my post about continuing to post now. Listen, if i came into a hostile maner, im sry aswell. as for "perceive" that is not a typo. Why not spend more time on them? Because, ive said this before, if i find something that can be changed ill go ahead and do it, i have a no signature now that i spent 3 hrs on cus i couldnt get it the way i liked to start with. The starting point is the base image, changing comes along the ways, im sure herio's signatures dont get 100% right away, nor anyone else who makes them. They have to get it to a starting point, right? thats what i do with my signatures i make for myself, not for others who request [which btw ill attempt the signature knuckles, just to give me a challenge n prove on what i can do if i try] My signatures are starting point, when i feel like something needs changing to fit the theme better, make it look cooler, or done differently, ill change it then other than that, its fine the way it is for me until i want it differently. [check my signature for the new one ive done]