Dark Prophecy Builder

[VeljkoM]

Project: Dark Prophecy Builder

Project leader: VeljkoM
Team: Silly Lil Ant, Legion King, Alagremm, Azsure

Intro: Younger cousin of DPA this project had less development that lacked regular intervals of work. The goal of this project is not to focus on individual heroes and instead features playable all major DP reboot universe races each with their own sub factions to chose from.

Features:
- 4 races each with 2 paths to choose from.
- Large armies, units divided in categories of infantry, ranged, cavalry, mechanical, champion and monster.
- Simple economy of wood harvesting and gold production buildings. (subject to change)
- Neutral zones of interest. (in progress)
- Hostile neutral forces to annoy you.
- Peons!

1# Map version DPBv1.00, Teams 3v3
Legion King, Azsure and Trolman versus Silly Lil Ant, Alagremm and VeljkoM
2# Map version DPBv1.01a, FFA(?)
Legion King, Azsure, Silly Lil Ant, Alagremm and VeljkoM
3# Map version DPBv1.01b, 2v2v2
Legion King, Azsure vs Silly Lil Ant, Lord Pugington vs VeljkoM, Fake King

 

[VeljkoM]

Humanity

Humanity although is one of the younger races of Corinth they are an advanced civilization. They have well trained and well equipped troops to fight of their enemies be they humans or worse. Humans are most efficient in defense and sieges possessing best siege machines of all armies.

Loyalist

Loyalist humans improve their armies with champions to inspire and lead their units. Champions are powerful in combat but their true power lies in their effect on surrounding troops. Because of Falmirian laws humans do not posses any real casters and only have priests that offer healing prayers to the troops.

Rebels

Rebel armies do not have elite units instead they train fast and cheap troops dedicated to hit and run tactics or swarming their enemies in large numbers. As they do not follow the laws of Falmir they regularly recruit casters in to their ranks.

Units

 

[VeljkoM]

Greenskins

Various clans united in loose alliance made of orcs and goblins are army to be reckoned with. Orcs make out most of the army warriors with their superior fighting skills and unrivaled savagery while goblins construct bases and siege equipment. Greenskin army excels at offense be it through sheer might of their army or striking from behind enemy lines.

Might Path

Traditional orcish way of thinking is if you hit something hard enough it will break. The Might path utilizes Trolls whom are resilient to attacks as they are brutally effective at spreading pain.

Cunning Path

When might isn't right then goblins take the charge. Stealth, assassination and sabotage of enemy buildings are what goblins do best and then its up to their orc allies to finish the job.

Units

 

[VeljkoM]

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[VeljkoM]

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[VeljkoM]

Thread is open for business and comments. Please direct all thanks to Ant for Teach-tree presentations. Vulrakar will soon be updated while Avians are still in theoretical stages. First post will include newest map and also replay of last test including the appropriate map version with it.

 

[Amargaard]

Looks awesome so far
Will there be any heroes available at all?

 

[VeljkoM]

No the closest thing to Heroes would be champions and monsters as they are limited more powerful units. But there won't be any character heroes in map because it would be hard to decided who gets in and also hero models in general are far to big and I must save space for whole Avian race. You could say DPB is opposite DPA. The only chance for heroes to appear is DPB campaign but first need DPB done.

 

[Misha]

oh a Hero-less map? sounds nicely different

 

[VeljkoM]

Warcraft is dominated by heroes to much in my opinion and thus I want to put RTS back in to Warcraft.

 

[VeljkoM]

New Replay added.

 

[Legion_King]

Witness the glory of the Shadowmoron.

 

[Misha]

was 'I' any part of that what you're basing this builder on?

 

[VeljkoM]

The original idea for DP builder I took from builder maps (Lotr Builder, Medieval Builder...) and actual first map DPB started during old DP but map was left forgotten (and honestly there were far to many factions back then) until one day I found it and based it on current DP.

This DPB itself instead focuses on 4 existing races and lacks heroes so no faction is based of DP player characters, (except the templar unit who smuggled in).

 

[Misha]

oh, i see

 

[Silly Lil Ant]

Good news everyone!​

Casters for all three current races shall be playable before the next DPB test. Yes, that includes the Faction casters! Prepare yourselves for a lot of evil and a lot of fun!

On another note, ideas for units and unit abilities are always welcome. Suggest either here or VM VeljkoM (or me) and we will discuss it.

SLA Out

 

[Legion_King]

I demand the new ideas for Templar abilities to be added before next test.

 

[Silly Lil Ant]

Care to expand?

 

[Legion_King]

Well it was discussed with Vel in our secret Anti-Al Council.

The AoE Healing Aura was to be changed to an aura that increases nearby cavalry's movement and its active ability to reduce the physical damage nearby cavalry take by a reasonable amount for a short time.

It has also been agreed that Templar's health should be increased by 50.

 

[Silly Lil Ant]

Thy will be done! Any other things people want to discuss?

 

[Misha]

do i have anything to contribute the builder with?

 

[Silly Lil Ant]

Maybe ideas for units or abilities? Check the last match replay and see if that creates suggestions. (Can be seen on the first page) Though maybe if you are around when tests go on, you could help test.

 

[Azsure]

In case you haven't done yet, and since it was agreed to be done, you could implement my idea of increasing veterans' health by 5 for each higher rank.

 

[Silly Lil Ant]

Just tired adding it. Doesn't seem to work. But will keep trying.

 

[Legion_King]

Yes, the way it needs to be added is most foul, failing is no problem.

 

[VeljkoM]

Orcs got an update, check the Orc post for more details.

 

[AIagremm]

Battle wagon looks nice.

 

[VeljkoM]

Trust me in game team color on it is way better.

 

[Legion_King]

How long does Mass Hex last? And how many units does it affect?

 

[VeljkoM]

Think at the moment lasts 10 or 15 seconds and number depends of how many you target with AoE circle with size of 200 I think. Of course as every statistics these are subject to change.

 

[Azsure]

Yes, even with a duration of 5 seconds I would have been sceptical already because armies can get wiped out just in that amount of time, but 10-15...

 

[VeljkoM]

Well one of the other changes is reworking ranged damage which is responsible for most killing. Also Mass Hex is not instant so that makes it possible to avoid.

 

[Azsure]

I'm still sceptical about duration though, let us not forget that practically no one can mass control their soldiers fast enough to avoid a spell (Unless the casting time is 5 seconds or something), and despite considering knights can charge now it could be useful to stop their casting, but dunno... Being playing against Hexers in DotA for years has given me a different perspective of such unbalanced thing.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well as I said spell duration can be changed depending of balance and casting time is more less dependent of the missile speed (though channeling hex could be more fun), personally I think you should complain more regarding rain of fire that warlocks at the moment get. Also humans like orcs will have their own casters, though in case of loyalist more like anti-caster and all casters will most likely be fragile and easy to kill. Also unlike Dota or any other hero map you aren't limited to 1 unit and sacrifices are part of the war. I mean that's the purpose of cannon fodder it is in their names.

 

[Legion_King]

Monks must get Mass Silence ability!

 

[VeljkoM]

Actually was aiming that the anti-casters get that. Also isn't silence already AoE?

 

[Legion_King]

AoE against AoE, separate the mages?

 

[VeljkoM]

yea but probably should give Silence better range.

 

[Misha]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/gnoll-snapdragon-rider-241568/

 

[Bernkastel]

The Hell.

 

[Silly Lil Ant]

:O Vel will be pleased!

 

[AIagremm]

 

[VeljkoM]

Excellent work.

 

[Misha]

we'll see if hive mods approve it. i can't moderate my stuff

 

[VeljkoM]

Yea was wondering about that.

 

[Azsure]

Regarding what Vel said on the other thread, I propose we should have a DPB test somewhere between these days, may I suggest saturday?

 

[Amargaard]

Wait, what the map is finished and uploaded!?

 

[VeljkoM]

Um just need to make some fixes to vulrakar and make the new rebel units worth using. Expect map ready for tomorrow. Though I am unsure will we ever live to see map finished.

 

[trolman]

B-but my exams !

 

[VeljkoM]

You are welcomed to study Trol, don't use DPB as an excuse not to.