Castle vs Castle Flame Edition 2.0c

[Byaku]

About the reward:
First:Item that used to make a small tower. (attack 5-10 damage. Type piercing for 10 second.)
Second:Item that used to make a small tower.(attack 11-15 damage. Type piercing for 15 second.)
Third:Item that used to make a small tower.(attack 16-20 damage. Type piercing for 20 second.)

How about that suggestion? Is that powerful?

 

[riusey]

it seems pretty good so i'll host it with some friends

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

About the reward:
First:Item that used to make a small tower. (attack 5-10 damage. Type piercing for 10 second.)
Second:Item that used to make a small tower.(attack 11-15 damage. Type piercing for 15 second.)
Third:Item that used to make a small tower.(attack 16-20 damage. Type piercing for 20 second.)

How about that suggestion? Is that powerful?

No, like you train 30 units just to get an item ?
I was thinking of something like an event, or some permanent thing that could help the player's base.
About the spell, can you find or search some more please ?

it seems pretty good so i'll host it with some friends

Thx for beeing our 100 post ! xD
I hope you have fun with your friends, bu note that the map is not finished yet !
The victory conditions are not done yet !

 

[Code Lyoko]

OK, each time a player trains a certain amount of units, he gets rewarded. Ar first, the reward system was meant to be a huge army, however now I see it will cause great unbalance, and so I can't add it. Also, the terrain is being remade by ~Void~, so I believe the castle will be changed.
Therefore I need ideas for the reward players will get. You can see how many units you need to train, in the multiboard on the "Missing" column.

How about one special item, if the item used the player's hero will have some bonus damage for a few second?

About the reward:
First:Item that used to make a small tower. (attack 5-10 damage. Type piercing for 10 second.)
Second:Item that used to make a small tower.(attack 11-15 damage. Type piercing for 15 second.)
Third:Item that used to make a small tower.(attack 16-20 damage. Type piercing for 20 second.)

How about that suggestion? Is that powerful?

There should be system that when you train the required amount of units you receive gold and exp? Or what? Is it item reward or exp or gold?

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

There should be system that when you train the required amount of units you receive gold and exp? Or what? Is it item reward or exp or gold?

The system is simple, when you train 30 units, you get a reward. Than when you train 60, you get a more powerful reward, and when you train 90 you get an even stronger reward.

Things is, I don't know what the reward should be, I need ideas...

 

[Code Lyoko]

The system is simple, when you train 30 units, you get a reward. Than when you train 60, you get a more powerful reward, and when you train 90 you get an even stronger reward.

Things is, I don't know what the reward should be, I need ideas...

Gold, lumber, gold and lumber, exp, item(s), exp and item(s), exp and gold and etc...

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Gold, lumber, gold and lumber, exp, item(s), exp and item(s), exp and gold and etc...

That is definitely not enough ...

 

[Byaku]

The system is simple, when you train 30 units, you get a reward. Than when you train 60, you get a more powerful reward, and when you train 90 you get an even stronger reward.

Things is, I don't know what the reward should be, I need ideas...

I think this game will be not fun if you add powerful reward

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

I think this game will be not fun if you add powerful reward

Why not ?
As long as it is balanced, it will be fun.
That is why I am requesting ideas ...

Also, spells please xD

 

[Byaku]

What kind of spell?

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

What kind of spell?

Creep spells, we need some weak spells for lv2 worlf and lv3 huskar.
And average murloc (lv2 -4)...
Problem is all spells always have too many effects or are too strong ... =S
Also, if possible, some Ultimate for knight hero.

 

[Byaku]

Search weak spell is hard, because people wanted a strong spell for hero.

About ability:
Wolf:Counter Attack
Huskar:Holy Shock
Murlocs:Water Spells
Knight:ALL ULTIMA!

Maybe that's all is powerful, but today I'm tired. That's all i can do today. Maybe tomorrow i will search a spell that better from these spell.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Ok, I am going to see this spells. You are doing a good job, just have some rest xD

 

[Code Lyoko]

About ability:Wolf:Counter AttackHuskar:HolyShockMurlocs:Water SpellsKnight:ALL ULTIMA!

How you do those links?

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

How you do those links?

Mmmm, well, all those are either badly coded or too powerful.
However:
Wolfs: I believe I will create some kind of critical strike, any suggestions ?
Huskar: no ideas ... some heal spell ... or aura ...
Ultimate: Got an idea from a movie in youtube (warcraf spells), I think i will make a channeling ultimate. I create a flower of light around the hero and all units inside the AOE will suffer something .... I am open to suggestions still, so if you can find a good spell, bring it on =)

Reward: no ideas... maybe we level the king ? maybe some aura that will protect your base ?

 

[Code Lyoko]

I am open to suggestions still, so if you can find a good spell, bring it on =)

I could start but I should first know how to make those links.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

I could start but I should first know how to make those links.

lol... xD

[ url=www.google.com]Google mate![/url ], will be
Google mate!

 

[Byaku]

So, what you want to search?

 

[Code Lyoko]

lol... xD

[ url=www.google.com]Google mate![/url ], will be
Google mate!

Okay I try.

GaDDeN's auras

Maybe those auras for Huskar? Or some or even one? XD Anyway check.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

So, what you want to search?

I believe you already exhausted many resources, it is in fact hard to find good abilities for balanced creeps, or good light spells. So I will just take some suggestions now, about creep abilities and creep groups.

Wolfs:
- Usually 3-4 lv2 wolfs ganged together
- each wolf has a special critic strike that make extra damage, heals him and nearby wolfs by that amount of damage and make target bleed.

Polard Bear and Huskar:
- 1 Huskar and 2 bears, 2 huskars 2 bears, all lv3
- Bear has a small knock back that stuns enemy units
- Huskar needs a support ability, don't know of any yet

Murlocs:
- In the middle of the map, they shall guard the path to the sacred fountain (instead of the dragons, i may remove them, balance them, or place them some where else)
- I have no idea about the number of murlocs
- No ideas for their abilities

Hydras:
- Maybe they should be with murlocs ?
- Maybe some summon ability, or some poison ability, no ideas.

Open to suggestions.

Maybe those auras for Huskar? Or some or even one? XD Anyway check.

I have those auras for long. And yes, the heal aura seems good enough for a lv3 Huskar. I may add it, but I would like more suggestions.

About the reward system:
- Ideas please.

Knight Ultimate:
- Creates a Holy Cross (or flower, or some other thing) which will, every second, heal allies and damage enemies (or some other effect, need ideas). Lasts 30 seconds and is channeling.

 

[Code Lyoko]

- Bear has a small knock back that stuns enemy units

You mean that it has already or need to search for that?

Murlocs:
- No ideas for their abilities

Dodge maybe?

Hydras:
- Maybe they should be with murlocs ?

They are water creatures both but I don't think they should be together :s Haven't see anywhere they could be together...

Hydras:
- Maybe some summon ability, or some poison ability, no ideas.

I highly recommend (was that correctly wrote?) poison.

About the reward system:
- Ideas please.

I thought that for sometime and I think you should give some bonus to enemy when you get alot units, otherwise it could be unbalanced that you get for your team example base aura bonus so your enemy can't beat you, yes?

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

You mean that it has already or need to search for that?

It means I will do it myself, no worries xD

Dodge maybe?

mmmm... weermm, some little twist ? a Water spell would be good, too bad all water spells are too strong =(
Idea:
- Water bound: every time the murloc is damaged, he has a chance of using the forces of water and to travel to behind the enemy, attacking back and dealing damage.
It only works if the unit is on water.

They are water creatures both but I don't think they should be together :s Haven't see anywhere they could be together...

Ok, so I need suggestions to place Hydras

I highly recommend (was that correctly wrote?) poison.

It is well written. Mmmm, don't know, I feel like poison abilities are over used...

I thought that for sometime and I think you should give some bonus to enemy when you get alot units, otherwise it could be unbalanced that you get for your team example base aura bonus so your enemy can't beat you, yes?

Mm, that way people won't train units. The objective of the game is to tell the player that training units is a good thing.
I don't think I'll add that idea xD

 

[Code Lyoko]

Oh yes, forgot that :s.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

So, any ideas ?

 

[Code Lyoko]

So, any ideas ?

For a hero:
Soul aura

 

[Byaku]

Huskar needs a support ability, don't know of any yet

Maybe devotion aura? or This, or...This?

For Hydra :
Chain Venom

Summon water elemental maybe good for murlocs or hydra

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Soul Aura: It would be good for some heroes, yes, but I doubt I will use it. Next hero I want to remake is the Slayer, and I have plans for him to be a single unit killer.

Woven Touch, good spell for a huskar !
Good thing is that it can be balanced, and specially, very annoying !
I think I will add Huskar lv5 with this spell, no doubt !
Chain Venom, good spell far an hydra as well.

Ok guys here is what we have:
Wolfs lv2 only:
- Wolf Strike: Has a chance to cause extra damage on attacks, and to heal nearby wolfs with the blood of the victim

Bears lv3
- Bear strength: Has a chance to knockback and stun the enemy for a second

Huskar lv3:
- Heal
- Strength aura: increases X% creeps armor

Huskar lv5:
- Woven touch

Hydra:
- Chain venom

Ok guys, now I need spots for this creeps. Any suggestions on their numbers and locations ?

Also, any suggestions for the ultimate for the knight ?

 

[Code Lyoko]

Btw can I search for spells in other pages like wc3campaigns.com? I mean is it a problem?

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Btw can I search for spells in other pages like wc3campaigns.com? I mean is it a problem?

It is something you should do.
You can search in ALL websites, even russian websites, like this one:
\\XGM\\Ìîäåëè\\

xD

About the creeps, we need to discuss their amounts and positions:

Currently I have:

1-8: sopt with 3-4 wolfs lv2
9: Wendigos, levels 3, 5, 9 (they should be defending something secret, but I think I am removing them)
10: Wolfs lv2
11: Wolfs, lv5 and lv2
12: Super creep, boss, dragons, lv20, 6, 3 (going to remove this and place murlocs)
13: Murlocs, various levels, defending a rune (which will have a magical aura)
14: Ice Revenants lv9 and lv3 (they are protecting the entrance to the cave, or they should ....)
15: Super Creep bear druid, lv20, 2 wolfs lv6

Ok guys, now I need radical changes for this creeps and their positions.
Please make your suggestions the following way, just copy it:

Spot number:
Creeps:
Purpose:
Items they should drop:
Others(your opinion):

I am open to suggestions !
PS: don't forget the reward system and the hero spell !

 

[revlisilver]

I'm just posting here atm to say flame phoenix said I could be a tester I'll post here more but this is just my first post here lol

 

[Code Lyoko]

Flame_Phoenix what you mean with that spot number: in quote?

 

[Byaku]

I think it's good enough

 

[revlisilver]

Ok get ready

Errors/problematic/possible make better/pure imba

General Items
Spiked armor - Misspelled Melle(should be spelled melee)
Spiked Anchor - Misspelled Melee(should be spelled melee)
Electric armor - Misspelled Melee(should be spelled melee) - persecond(should be per second something along that)
Jungle armor - Misspelled Melee(should be spelled melee) - Armour(If you are going to use "armor" for everything else don't put "armour" in one or the other but 98% I have seen is armor besides this)
Strenght armor(you misspelled Strength in the item name)

Recipe's triggers don't check for 3 items and the recipe it only checks it if the "recipe" comes into the inventory
There is no Permanent sleep or eternal spell(if this was meant to be nvm)

the "new" elves

Elven spell force 13% spell reduction a little over powered maybe ?

High elf worker why not make
Barracks - hotkey B( Why are barracks not B? )
Alter - hotkey A(every other "alter" is A well except for Fel orcs but ill get to that )

fel orcs

This is the most imbalanced race of all mainly talking about Gul`dan
His "normal summons" are a lot more powerful than normal summons
Like the archmages summons are just as strong as his and he only summons 1! gul`dan can summon 2-4! and then 3 fel orcs but that isn't as bad as his ultimate it summons up to ??max food?? I counted it summoned 40 units?!?!?
sorry that is just a little to imbalanced that is a must change

Fel orc specific grammmar errors

On the "red dragon" the "devour ability" still says "kodo beast is killed" and not "red dragon is killed"

Both new races
Both of the new race heroes lvl 3 spells do not require lvl 5 to get(ok i didn't check the new elves but im guessing I do know that the fel orcs don't require lvl 5)

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Flame_Phoenix what you mean with that spot number: in quote?

I mean to please make your suggestions about the creep spots according with that.

Example:

Spot number: 1
Creeps: 3 wolfs
Purpose: get experience
Items they should drop: a tome
Others(your opinion): not too strong, just to get some experience

I think it's good enough

It's not, I am adding new creeps, and I need ideas for their locations, so I can have all types of creeps =)
Please suggest

revlisilver, good work, I shall soon read it and make the changes.
Next version will have a lot of fixes 0)

 

[Cakemeister]

I was banned? it's not my fault i just got my internet resetup because my house hates it so i'm doing this at school

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

I was banned? it's not my fault i just got my internet resetup because my house hates it so i'm doing this at school

You were too much time inactive, and so I delegated your position to revlisilver.
However, you can get in team again if you want, but I will need some more proofs of your activity.

 

[Code Lyoko]

Here is a spellpack!
LotK's Missile Pack

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Code Lyoko, I am sorry but I don't use codes that are in the Grave =S

 

[Code Lyoko]

Code Lyoko, I am sorry but I don't use codes that are in the Grave =S

Ok. So I've to forgot wc3campaigns.net? Because I think only there is spells.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

it also has many models, icons and skins if you know where to look =)
Also, don't forget wc3c, it has many good resources.

Finally, can some one make an opinion about the CREEP SPOTS ?

 

[Cakemeister]

You were too much time inactive, and so I delegated your position to revlisilver.
However, you can get in team again if you want, but I will need some more proofs of your activity.

Ok, fine what do you need?

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Ok, fine what do you need?

Please use your imagination I need suggestions. I need suggestions about the creep spots, their location and number of creeps. See above posts for more information or visit the Creep section in DDay

 

[Cakemeister]

My imagination...I might have to get that out of my attic

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

My imagination...I might have to get that out of my attic

Just do your best, no one is asking more.

Recipe's triggers don't check for 3 items and the recipe it only checks it if the "recipe" comes into the inventory
There is no Permanent sleep or eternal spell(if this was meant to be nvm)

I am soon adding a system for items that will clean some bugs and easy my life. Adding a set for the other items you suggested is now also in my ToDo list.

Elven spell force 13% spell reduction a little over powered maybe ?

Not at all.

High elf worker why not make
Barracks - hotkey B( Why are barracks not B? )
Alter - hotkey A(every other "alter" is A well except for Fel orcs but ill get to that tongue.gif )

Because those hotkey are already taken by other buildings.
I am willing to change them, as long as I have a tester that makes me a list of the hotkeys he would liek to see in the race. As long as those hotkeys make sense, I will change them
Anyone wants this job ?

High elf worker why not make
Barracks - hotkey B( Why are barracks not B? )
Alter - hotkey A(every other "alter" is A well except for Fel orcs but ill get to that tongue.gif )

I was hopping to keep this hero, but I must agree some of his spells are unbalanced.
I will take your oppinion in my consideration and remake some of his spells.

Both of the new race heroes lvl 3 spells do not require lvl 5 to get(ok i didn't check the new elves but im guessing I do know that the fel orcs don't require lvl 5)

This is something I want to fix, I know it is with the Object Editor, but I don't know how =(

And yes I fixed that spaen bug you reported lol. Version 1.3 will have a considerable amount of updates in the Spawn system.

Lord Garithos - Dimensional Gate - somewhat overpowered !6! units that deal ~45 chaos damage and can cast divine shield 45*6 = 270 damage ~per second for 15 seconds so 270*15 = 4050 that is enough for them to go into a base and destroy most if not all of the most important buildings.

This hero is being 100% remade in THW. I suggest you read some posts for information. Thx for seeing that though xD

Kelen the seeker - Refresh COULD be over powerful early game with an aoe(cheap mana) heal and meteor storm does a lot of damage ~600 total at lvl 5 somewhat overpowered

I agree, this hero need to be balanced ...

1 - Shield dwarf - Misspelled ebility( should be ability )
2 - Druid dwarf - Misspelled againts ( should be against)
3 - Electron Ultimate - Slightly to fast cooldown.

Please specify points 1 and 2, I couldn't find the typos.
Point 3 was corrected, now coldown was 60 and now is 80.

I hope you all like the fixes.
New release is depending on a single spell, I hope I end it fast.
Also, remember to give suggestions about the CREEPS !

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

48 hours passed.

Guys, if I wait for the spell, version Beta 1.3 will take for ever. I am just thinking of improving the items and releasing the new version. Is this Ok ?

Also, please give ideas about creeps !

EDIT EDIT EDIT

I request all testers that please submit the msn e-mails to me, either in this forum or the other.

 

[Byaku]

I have no idea for creep

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

I have no idea for creep

Ok, np

Also, please:

I request all testers that please submit the msn e-mails to me, either in this forum or the other.

or you can PM me.

EDIT EDIT EDIT

Ok guys, I need some icons for my new spell.
I would like to complete the Chaos Orc hero, but instead I will start the knight. SO in the new version 1.3 (almost out) the knight will have a new ability.
However I need an Icon for that ability: Sun Ray.
You can see it here:
Sun Ray - Wc3campaigns

this ability is Bug free and so it is good enough for the map.

Please searchers, now is all up to you guys.

 

[Byaku]

Maybe icon good for Sun Ray ability:
This icon or....
This icon

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Maybe icon good for Sun Ray ability:

Those icons are not detailed enough, you can't even understand what is happening.
I am looking for something else.
Please continue your search byaku.
PS: There is a chance your name will be on loading screen in next version. What color would you like ?? (if that happens xD)

 

[Code Lyoko]

Hmm... About that creep thing... I got an idea from other game... maybe you could do so that player first goes kill easy creeps, then he enters in a cave where he can't get out unless he kills the boss at the end, of course there is alot rooms, but it could work like when you kill little harder creeps at the first floor of the cave, then do so that player can enter deeper until the boss, when he kills it, he gets reward and gets out of the cave. How about that?