Better Triggers (Custom Trigger Editor)

[Planetary]

This is extremely minor, but would be cool.

 

[Daffa]

What is the flow of working between Better Trigger and the World Editor?

 

[LazZ]

This is extremely minor, but would be cool.

Yeah easy to add too. I don't have time to work on the tool these days tho :/

What is the flow of working between Better Trigger and the World Editor?

Better Triggers detects changes to your map every time you save it in the World Editor, so you can freely edit your map and use the tool at the same time

I'll admit it's not described in the docs. I'll update it sometime.

 

[Ste.Vo]

Is this program outdated/incompatible with current WC3 patch? I can add new triggers, but Events, Conditions, Local Variables and Actions are all greyed out. If i load an existing map, it shows the map name and imported triggers in russian for some reason?

Edit: Nvm, im just stupid. Still no idea why everything gets auto-translated to russian tho

 

[LazZ]

Is this program outdated/incompatible with current WC3 patch? I can add new triggers, but Events, Conditions, Local Variables and Actions are all greyed out. If i load an existing map, it shows the map name and imported triggers in russian for some reason?

Edit: Nvm, im just stupid. Still no idea why everything gets auto-translated to russian tho

No the tool works with the latest patch. Can you provide more information about the russian auto-translation or take a screenshot of your issue?

 

[Pwnage.]

I'm enjoying this tool a lot, thanks -- however, I've run into some problems. I'm working in Lua, and whenever I attempt to convert a GUI trigger to a custom script, the program crashes. This seems to happen reliably. I've also experienced the language randomly switching from Lua -> JASS, despite the preferences saying Lua (i.e. new scripts created are .j). The solution seems to be switch to to JASS and back to Lua, although it has reverted at least once.

 

[LazZ]

I'm enjoying this tool a lot, thanks -- however, I've run into some problems. I'm working in Lua, and whenever I attempt to convert a GUI trigger to a custom script, the program crashes. This seems to happen reliably. I've also experienced the language randomly switching from Lua -> JASS, despite the preferences saying Lua (i.e. new scripts created are .j). The solution seems to be switch to to JASS and back to Lua, although it has reverted at least once.

Thx for reporting, I’ll fix these things for next update.

 

[Pwnage.]

Thx for reporting, I’ll fix these things for next update.

Sounds good. Also, how long should it take a previous map to convert? I have an old map I'm trying to port to this system. It's about 3MB and has 500+ triggers. Whenever I try to convert it I get a progress bar and I can see that it's using about 10x of the map's memory, but not really using the CPU and not writing to disk. I've left it running for over an hour and no new files were populated outside of the default directories it creates on initialization. Any ideas? It also doesn't let me click the "Cancel" button during the conversion process, although that's minor since I can just X out of it.

It might just be this particular map, because I have another old map I work on that's 7MB and it converted instantly. Any advice would still be much appreciated!

Edit: It's possible that the first map I described is simply not compatible due to having vJASS code?

 

[LazZ]

Sounds good. Also, how long should it take a previous map to convert? I have an old map I'm trying to port to this system. It's about 3MB and has 500+ triggers. Whenever I try to convert it I get a progress bar and I can see that it's using about 10x of the map's memory, but not really using the CPU and not writing to disk. I've left it running for over an hour and no new files were populated outside of the default directories it creates on initialization. Any ideas? It also doesn't let me click the "Cancel" button during the conversion process, although that's minor since I can just X out of it.

It might just be this particular map, because I have another old map I work on that's 7MB and it converted instantly. Any advice would still be much appreciated!

Older maps are not supported yet, but I'm actually working on adding support for them atm.

The current solution is to open the old map in the newest World Editor, save it, and then convert it in Better Triggers

 

[Pwnage.]

Older maps are not supported yet, but I'm actually working on adding support for them atm.

The current solution is to open the old map in the newest World Editor, save it, and then convert it in Better Triggers

Thank you -- this seems to work! Was having problems compiling my map in 1.36 at first but then realized that JassHelper is not enabled by default for some reason...

Update: This worked in theory, but there are inconsistencies. For some reason I'm unable to find a few units that are placed on the map despite them being valid in the Reforged editor. There's also some weird coordinate shenanigans happening, not quite sure what's up with that. Also, everything was converted into a .trg, even fully vJASS files which have custom script enabled. Not sure if this is the intended behavior, but it'll mean that I have to manually create .j files and copy and paste my triggers into them it seems.

 

[Pwnage.]

Sorry to be adding so much information/questions. I've spent a good number of hours with this tool now and unfortunately there seem to be inconsistencies and gamebreaking issues with BT.

1. Variables do not appear to be handled in the same manner as WE. I'm trying to figure out exactly why, but there must be something changed in initialization between the two since I have many scripts that don't behave the same after being ported to BT, especially regarding the location of units placed in the map. I'm guessing this is because of some initialization ordering change, although I'm not sure why it would happen as the structure of the triggers seems to have been maintained in BT.

2. Setting global variables in BT has inconsistent results. If you set a global variable by clicking on the "Variables" tab and choosing the initial value, it will either crash BT, or it will set the variable, but next time you load BT the value will not be set to the default. However, if you set the initial value by clicking on the variable directly (as if it were a trigger), then it gets stored correctly across multiple sessions. Also, I'm not sure if this was the intended behavior, but the initial value of ALL of my variables have been corrupted to nothing when my map was ported to BT.

I really do like this program and I recognize you're dedicating your free time to getting it working. It is very impressive and I want to use it so badly. However, it doesn't seem like it's at a state where I can work on existing, complex projects reliably, although I hope it'll get there eventually.

 

[LazZ]

Sorry to be adding so much information/questions. I've spent a good number of hours with this tool now and unfortunately there seem to be inconsistencies and gamebreaking issues with BT.

1. Variables do not appear to be handled in the same manner as WE. I'm trying to figure out exactly why, but there must be something changed in initialization between the two since I have many scripts that don't behave the same after being ported to BT, especially regarding the location of units placed in the map. I'm guessing this is because of some initialization ordering change, although I'm not sure why it would happen as the structure of the triggers seems to have been maintained in BT.

2. Setting global variables in BT has inconsistent results. If you set a global variable by clicking on the "Variables" tab and choosing the initial value, it will either crash BT, or it will set the variable, but next time you load BT the value will not be set to the default. However, if you set the initial value by clicking on the variable directly (as if it were a trigger), then it gets stored correctly across multiple sessions. Also, I'm not sure if this was the intended behavior, but the initial value of ALL of my variables have been corrupted to nothing when my map was ported to BT.

I really do like this program and I recognize you're dedicating your free time to getting it working. It is very impressive and I want to use it so badly. However, it doesn't seem like it's at a state where I can work on existing, complex projects reliably, although I hope it'll get there eventually.

I'm sorry to hear that. The World Editor has many weird quirks, which I'm sure I haven't covered them all.

Thanks for trying the tool though and thanks for valuable feedback! I'll look into the issues.

 

[Varcklen]

An excellent tool for working in the editor, which simplifies working with triggers and has great potential.

 

[Gremob]

LaZzy Godt Arbejde!

Is there any chance for Naga units from the tft campaign to be added? or is it something we need to pay for?

 

[LazZ]

LaZzy Godt Arbejde!

Is there any chance for Naga units from the tft campaign to be added? or is it something we need to pay for?

I don't understand what it has to do with this tool. Did you mean to post this on my Direct Strike map thread? In which case no, there are no plans to add Naga units.

 

[Gremob]

im newto hive so I didnt know where to post the question.

 

[stalkerfox]

if this could get somehow built in into editor it would be gold