About reputation

Septimus · May 16, 2009

I found out it was rather annoying for a user to be able to give reputation without the capability to adjust the amount of reputation they given to a user.

I gives 2 reputation to user at 1 go. However, why not enable a normal user like me and the others that are capable to give 2 reputation and above to adjust the amount we could gives?

For example, a post or resources by user xxx deserve 1 reputation and I could give them exactly 1 reputation instead of 2 or above depends on my current reputation.

Joe-black-5 · May 16, 2009

its only rep, who cares? don't be greedy on the newbies
giving them more rep will just make them more happy and motivated

CMarket · May 16, 2009

Joe-black-5 said:
its only rep, who cares?

It has been said so many times and yet people still think that rep means something.

FrIkY · May 16, 2009

I think that it's for every 200 reputation you have, your +rep is worth 1 more. I think.

M4stah · May 16, 2009

Well, Joe-Black-5 is right, but I think it would be convienent to give 0 rep, just a friendly message. For a cool quote or something. But rep is infact not much so maybe we dont need this.

FrIkY · May 16, 2009

M4stah, dude, if we remove reputation, some people here might commit a suicide. Don't joke with these things. xD

M4stah · May 16, 2009

FrIkY, not removing rep, just not implenting ym idea of selecting regular rep or 0 rep. But completely removing rep would cause massive whining

doom_sheep · May 16, 2009

u should be able to see all rep a user has ever received. that would be cool.

Linaze · May 16, 2009

Every 200th rep increases your rep power by one, as does each 2500'th post, just for clarification.
About the suggestion itself, I think it sounds truly unnecessary, to be honest. Rep _means_ nothing.

FrIkY · May 16, 2009

Oooh, I didn't know that about 2500'th post. *starts posting untill reaches 2500 posts*

Septimus · May 16, 2009

I know rep means nothing, but it was ridiculous if we award a large amount of cookies for small contribution.

CMarket · May 16, 2009

Septimus said:
I know rep means nothing

Good.

Septimus said:
it was ridiculous if we award a large amount of cookies for small contribution.

Oh, it seems you don't know after all.

Rep means nothing, full stop.

Ash · May 16, 2009

Why does rep even exist? God damnit.

Kwah · May 16, 2009

It means pretty, shiny gems.

That's something?

~Void~ · May 16, 2009

I think this is a good idea. Moderators can adjust the amount of rep they give, I think users should be able to as well (within limits), for example you could choose between 1-3 or something.

Ash said:
Why does rep even exist? God damnit.

So people have other things to whine about than their post count xD

HFR · May 16, 2009

hawk900 said:
It means pretty, shiny gems.

That's something?

Your rep is dark, for God's sake... But I agree with you, these tiny and shiny gems are pretty.

TheDivineBoss · May 16, 2009

Ash said:
Why does rep even exist? God damnit.

Think of penis enlargements.

I rest my case.

For now.

Elenai · May 16, 2009

I love my shiny rep gems.

JimBob · May 17, 2009

This is a strange topic for the Hives; but I find it kind of funny, so I'm going to give all of you rep for posting. LOL!!!

HFR · May 17, 2009

Ahhh, thanks to you, now I have 3 big gems, so pretty and shiny...

Septimus · May 17, 2009

Oh, it seems you don't know after all.

Rep means nothing, full stop.

Dude, even if it means nothing; it is ridiculous for user to give a extremely high amount of rep.

Rep means nothing, but it could also serve as warning as well. If a person had been punish with -2 reputation, he could earn 4 reputation if somebody that are capable to give 4 reputation came in and give it all the sudden.

This resulted into the punish person never learn from their mistake.

WILL THE ALMIGHTY · May 17, 2009

Nothing is going to change about the rep system because we have better things to do at the moment.

Really, stop caring.

HFR · May 17, 2009

Septimus said:
Rep means nothing, but it could also serve as warning as well. If a person had been punish with -2 reputation, he could earn 4 reputation if somebody that are capable to give 4 reputation came in and give it all the sudden.

This resulted into the punish person never learn from their mistake.

Wrong, because the user will keep repeating the same mistake over and over, as he didn't learned and even gained some free rep. This will eventualy lead to some red gems or ban.

CMarket · May 17, 2009

Septimus said:
Dude, even if it means nothing; it is ridiculous for user to give a extremely high amount of rep.

You keep contradicting yourself. If it means nothing it's not ridiculous. If it actually does mean something then it is ridiculous.

Rui · May 17, 2009

I think the reason we should not allow users to distribute the amount of reputation they want is obvious and clear for everybody: it will be used the wrong way.

Ash · May 17, 2009

How so?

If the max rep I can give is 4, why not allow me to give out rep in bouts of 3's, 2's and 1's as well?

Hakeem · May 17, 2009

Rui said:
it will be used the wrong way.

Has rep ever been used the right way?
Is there even a right way to use rep at all?

M4stah · May 17, 2009

The right use is to give a user a little reward for something good he did, like an excelent resource, or helping somebody out in the WE help zone. I do disagree with rep parties, and other non-sense(*cough* FrIkY *cough*). For me its also a 'lil about teh friendly message

EDIT: 500th post, Yeeeeeeeeeeeh

Masiah · May 17, 2009

WILLTHEALMIGHTY said:
Nothing is going to change about the rep system because we have better things to do at the moment.

Really, stop caring.

I wonder what these things are.

Anyways... beeing redundant, I say once more that rep means nothing. Why? Because people just give it out for every second somehow amusing thing you come up to. How do I know? I've never uploaded a resource (except a crappy terrain of mine long ago)... and guess what? I have more than 150 rep. Reputation has lost it's value (if it had any) and now has just become a senseless treat between users, like little candies that children give to other children. But hey, people like to give and get reputation, and user relations are easily improved by handing-out rep. "Hey, this guy gave me rep, he must be nice!" and so on. So, my points against any change in the rep system are:

No one gives a shit about it.
It is fun.
It helps users to get along better.
It allows some users to live up to their ego when everything else fails, with amusing results.
And remember, removing the rep system is like taking candy from a child. And we do not want that, do we? (I mean the moans, cries and general drama that will follow...)

Septimus · May 17, 2009

You keep contradicting yourself. If it means nothing it's not ridiculous. If it actually does mean something then it is ridiculous.

1) This is a site discussion section and users are welcome to make a suggestions even if the suggestion could give a minor improvement or extremely small amount of benefict to the users. After all, the site discussion forum clearly written this.

Discuss The Hive Workshop's content, features and files. Comment on our style, explore the site's possibilities or suggest improvements!

2) Contradict or not, it was a suggestion.

3) My suggestion does not need to please anybody, but the webmaster itself. If Ralle think it could be helpful even by little, he would add it.

I think the reason we should not allow users to distribute the amount of reputation they want is obvious and clear for everybody: it will be used the wrong way.

As Ash said, how can it be abuse when there is a limit for it?

Min - 1 reputation (0 if your reputation was below 0)
Max - Depends on the amount you could dish.

Anyways... beeing redundant, I say once more that rep means nothing. Why? Because people just give it out for every second somehow amusing thing you come up to. How do I know? I've never uploaded a resource (except a crappy terrain of mine long ago)... and guess what? I have more than 150 rep. Reputation has lost it's value (if it had any) and now has just become a senseless treat between users, like little candies that children give to other children. But hey, people like to give and get reputation, and user relations are easily improved by handing-out rep. "Hey, this guy gave me rep, he must be nice!" and so on. So, my points against any change in the rep system are:

1) I did not suggest it to be remove.
2) I suggest it to have a system that allowed user to use it at the right way, for those who want to use it at the right way; then they could use it.

Squiggy · May 17, 2009

Bleh.. I can give 4 normally which is ok since I got OVER 650 (!!!) and.. ah fuck it, I don't care about rep

Devine · May 17, 2009

silver gems shine wai more ... I want em asap. period.

Ash · May 17, 2009

Squiggy said:
Bleh.. I can give 4 normally which is ok since I got OVER 650 (!!!) and.. ah fuck it, I don't care about rep

Eee, and just think. If it wasn't for me, you'd still be permabanned from the chat <3

Slaydon · May 17, 2009

I dont know if someone already posted but, rep is for ppl that you thrust and know does a good job, amirite? You wouldnt take advice from ppl with a big red gem, but a big shiny gem :9

HFR · May 17, 2009

Usually I don't trust red guys (if you know what I mean). You're correct in some parts.

Septimus · May 17, 2009

I dont know if someone already posted but, rep is for ppl that you thrust and know does a good job, amirite? You wouldnt take advice from ppl with a big red gem, but a big shiny gem :9

Please do not off topic, we are currently discuss about the amount of reputation a user could give. (For those who could give more than 1 reputation).

JimBob · May 17, 2009

Well, this sucks! I've given out too much rep in 24 hours, so I have to wait a while to give out more. So, sorry if I missed any of you.

Joe-black-5 · May 17, 2009

-.- is this thread turning into some rep party?

Squiggy · May 17, 2009

Ash said:
Eee, and just think. If it wasn't for me, you'd still be permabanned from the chat <3

Yea I know

But how's this rep-related?

HFR · May 17, 2009

Joe-black-5 said:
-.- is this thread turning into some rep party?

I think so... And MasterHaosis isn't even here.

Paladon · May 17, 2009

Since we're talking about him, he's here.

Hakeem · May 18, 2009

Joe-black-5 said:
-.- is this thread turning into some rep party?

Generally, when people talk about rep, people remember to give rep.

I'd like to revoke my previous question. Instead I ask this:
What do we want rep to mean?

I use it as a way to post a post to another post. I've had the urge rep a rep comment before. It just makes it a little more interesting to add arbitrary value to it.

WILL THE ALMIGHTY · May 18, 2009

I'd prefer if the system wasn't there at all.

Hawkwing · May 18, 2009

Ash said:
Why does rep even exist? God damnit.

Yeah, but it does. And as so, Septimus has a point.

GLB · May 18, 2009

WILLTHEALMIGHTY said:
I'd prefer if the system wasn't there at all.

I agree. I am a newbie and i think that rep may be an obstacle to newbies like me when loading up a map or spells or stuff like that, since people may think "wtf a newbie? that must be bad stuff".
But on the other hand, i am not on THW for long time so maybe i am wrong about it.

Septimus · May 18, 2009

I agree. I am a newbie and i think that rep may be an obstacle to newbies like me when loading up a map or spells or stuff like that, since people may think "wtf a newbie? that must be bad stuff".
But on the other hand, i am not on THW for long time so maybe i am wrong about it.

1) How can it be a obstacle? As long as you follow the submission rules, there is nothing wrong with it.

The main reason why newbie always receive the message "Please follow the submission rules" or "omg, it sucks" is not because of their reputation, but is because they do not bother to read the rules.

Reputation have no connection about this.

2) Please do not off-topic, this topic is to discuss about implementing a system that enable user to give the amount of reputation according to their own way; not to discuss on how reputation effect a person.

GLB · May 18, 2009

as I said... I am a newbie ^^ sorry

RED BARON · May 18, 2009

To me rep is my personal archieve, where I can go and look at what I helped people with or similar. Kinda like my hive history or whatever. I also use it as a way to get knowledge about others (following the rep' posts around)

So I agree wholeheartly to the suggestion some pages ago about having all rep you gotten shown in profile.

Therefor the suggestion for having a choice of how much rep you give would be nice, if you do just want to show you liked something.. On the other hand though its not really a problem, and the purpose of rep doesn't suffer from people giving more then one rep (as it mostly sensible users which have that "give more then one rep" problem (if its a problem)).

So per conclusion: Would be a nice add, but no harm done if it wasnt implanted.

CloudMax · May 18, 2009

I'd say, keep it as it is. If someone can give 5 rep and wants to give me rep, i get 5 insted of one, isnt that awesome?! O.O
lul.
It took some time before anyone even mentioned this. I have been wondering about this for a while. (even though i only can give one rep.)

People should be able to choose how much rep they wants to give, its for gods sake they that give out the rep.

But well.. I dont get the point of rep. Maybe it makes newbies on the site to feel better and proud or something. But when you have been here for a while it almost gets annoying sometimes when you see peoples profiles and they have rep that they did not deserve.

FrIkY · May 18, 2009

Meh, I say keep the whole reputation thing as it is. :/

WILLTHEALMIGHTY said:
Nothing is going to change about the rep system because we have better things to do at the moment.

Really, stop caring.

As WILL said, there are better things to worry about at the moment, instead of how much +rep can a certain user give.