Lords of War

[Zaramorus]

Here we will discuss about the Lords of War series. So what you think of it? I think the trailer and Kargath story was amazing. Cant wait for second part to come out. I also love the graphics they use. Links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozCuNmuAsrA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG3RVCEwCPg
Also the Ogres cruelty in Kargath story made me hate Ogres so much.

 

[Heinvers]

Yes, the Kargath story is quite good I'd say. I also loved the ogre's behavior. It truly brings the best in them regarding noteworthy cruelty, strength and a bit of savagery. Still I think they can be much more.

 

[Chen]

Where is PART TWO???

 

[Deleted member 238589]

I usually don't like when they change their stories (since Kargath was originally slave in ogre mine, not arena), but this change may be for the better. Besides, it's not really that big change anyway xD. They surely made him more awesome

 

[Heinvers]

I usually don't like when they change their stories (since Kargath was originally slave in ogre mine, not arena), but this change may be for the better

Alternate reality/universe, so it's not that hard to change something.

 

[chr2]

I usually don't like when they change their stories (since Kargath was originally slave in ogre mine, not arena), but this change may be for the better. Besides, it's not really that big change anyway xD. They surely made him more awesome

There was never any lore to back up the story of him being a slave in the mines. It was something Blizzard came up with for Warlords of Draenor anyway, and I guess they just changed their minds on the direction they wanted to take him.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

Right, I mean, there are far worse examples that Kargath.

 

[Zaramorus]

Where is PART TWO???

Good question

 

[Deleted member 238589]

They'll probably release it soon. It's been a while since this one was released.

 

[Chen]

They'll probably release it soon. It's been a while since this one was released.

But episodes The Burdens of Shaohao is just released in several days, not weeks. Nevermind, here's part 2 anyway:

 

[Hardtime]

That backstory is just.... I hate it! I prefer the first one when Grom was just a warrior of the Warsong then he challenged the old Chieftain to a mak'gora for the title

 

[takakenji]

groms story sucks

 

[rcshaggy]

You guys ever watched the Emperor Pandaria stuff in which the Emperor needed to deal with certain Sha?
It's kinda like that with some of the Warlords instead, and Orcs, Ogres, some blood shed and what not.

 

[Vinz]

It seems like Ogres are now dominant oppressors when they are truly just dimwit, large creatures.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

Does eveyone have to be chained and tortured by ogres?

 

[Vinz]

Yup, Blizzard can't think of new stories anymore.

 

[Heinvers]

I preferred Kargath's story over this too :/

 

[Vinz]

The phasing is also weird.

He attacks
Ogres retaliate
He retaliates
Ogres retaliate and capture him
He kills the ogre lord and attacks again

The Kargath story was like;
Chained
Pitted against 100
Shattered Hands
Killed ogres

More thematic, and the emphasis is clear; freedom at great price.

 

[Chen]

Really, so:
1.He is Captured by Gay Ogre for the "word"(probably the word is cake).
2.He raids Ogres and lose.
3.Ogres Retaliate and kill Golka.
4.Grommash Revengy!
5.Grom eats Gaygre's ear
6.Another revenge. WIN!!!
7.Grom become warlord.

Really, There are two Groms? I don't understand.

 

[Heinvers]

Yo, Cool'dan! He bites his ear or head off then he fucks the ogres pride quite hard and makes the Warsong better

 

[Vinz]

He was only captured once, the scenes inbetween are flashbacks to what happened before getting captured.

 

[Chen]

Ah okay, now I understand, now I LIKE IT I prefer Kargath anyway.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

I don't expect much from Kilrogg's story, they'll probably find a way to involve ogres again. I'd like to see a good story for Durotan.

 

[Chen]

I don't expect much from Kilrogg's story, they're probably find a way to involve ogres again. I'd like to see a good story for Durotan.

It will be wolfy snowy drakaey and loved doves judging from the trailer, I'm excited anyway.

 

[Chen]

Here's part three:

Nice story, it's touching, I hate Durotan's look anyway.

 

[gorillabull]

part 3

 

[Zaramorus]

part 3

So thats how Durotan got the white wolf cape thingy. Pretty cool story. I think that Grommash story was pretty terrible which really sucks since he is so badass. I would love so much to see Blackhand and Ner'Zhul story too.

 

[Heinvers]

Already saw it on the main thread. Disappointment tbh.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

Oh, come on, it's not bad at all

 

[Vinz]

The YouTube link could not be parsed. Try a different one or report it to Ralle.

wut. How.

 

[Chen]

wut. How.

Lul. I dunno.

 

[Razosh]

Already saw it on the main thread. Disappointment tbh.

I think it was rather good actually, I was rather disappointed in part two but part one and three were in my opinion really good. I also think that the third part was the most important one of them all as Horde characters will spend much time fighting alongside the Frostwolf Clan.

 

[Deleted member 238589]

@Razosh: I agree. It seems that people have failed to understand it's point for some reason. I also dislike LoW for Grommash, since it's purpose, IMO, was to make him a badass and nothing more. (also, it was almost a copy/paste from Kargath)

 

[Razosh]

@Razosh: I agree. It seems that people have failed to understand it's point for some reason. I also dislike LoW for Grommash, since it's purpose, IMO, was to make him a badass and nothing more. (also, it was almost a copy/paste from Kargath)

It was a copy and that was the problem though I would say that the point of both part 1 and 2 was to highlight the war between the ogres and the orcs and not to make Grommash into a bad @$$. They also seem to want to highlight that Grommash is evil as shown in his treatment of his wife, not surprising though as he's going to be the end boss.

 

[gorillabull]

4

 

[Vinz]

Visuals are better and story is fine.

 

[Wolffman]

I'm eager to see what they do with Blackrock since he's the last one in the series, but what confuses me is that Durotan isn't really a part of the Iron Horde, the Iron Horde is primarily Grommash and Garrosh, secondarily, Blackhand, Kargath, Kilrogg and Ner'zhul, and lastly, Azuka (Burning Blade chieftan), Fenris (Thunderlord chieftan) and Zaela (Dragonmaw chieftan). I would've really loved it if all of them (except Garrosh) got a video in the Lords of War series, but since the series is supposed to be a timekiller until WoD is released, and it takes a while to make the videos, I guess they'll run out of time to make more.

 

[Razosh]

I guess they'll run out of time to make more.

Probably, plus Azuka and Fenris will most likely die early on through questing, it would have been nice if at least Ner'Zhul got one.

 

[Wolffman]

Probably, plus Azuka and Fenris will most likely die early on through questing, it would have been nice if at least Ner'Zhul got one.

I agree, Azuka and Fenris don't have much of a history, so they'll end up like Ned Stark soon enough, but I don't think Zaela will die soon, she has a decently thick background story, and plus Dragonmaw is a much more important clan than the Burning Blade or the Thunderlord..
They should've given out the videos arranging in rank, as in at first :- Kilrogg, Ner'zhul, Kargath, Blackhand and lastly Grommash. But I guess the reason they put Grom first is so that our hopes would be crushed like an ant. Grom has been and always will be, the gnarliest Orc in the Warcraft-verse, but his son is just an obese ball of sweat and pride and a worthless excuse of a Warchief.

 

[Chen]

5-10 hours before the final part

 

[Vinz]

I hope Blizz does it right.

 

[Razosh]

I hope it ends really good too, it started of so good but I have a feeling that Kargath is going to remain the best story.

 

[Wolffman]

Kargath had a reasonable and a quite bold story, it makes us get why he's such a badass and a warlord, Kilrogg's proved that he was batshit crazy, but trying to save his people, and he completed his father's prophecy at hand without even knowing it. Grom constantly attacked the Ogres, left his wife for dead, got captured, and was starved until death when he ate an Ogre and became warlord, and Durotan was just trying to save his mother when he sacrificed their precious worg. Come at us, Blackhand, come at us with strenght and fire!

 

[Razosh]

Don't forget that Blackhand is a puppet he might have been the warchief in the first war but he had a puppeteer controlling his every move.

 

[Wolffman]

Don't forget that Blackhand is a puppet he might have been the warchief in the first war but he had a puppeteer controlling his every move.

After the Demon-Blood incident, almost all the warchiefs were so-to-speak controlled by the Burning Legion..
But since, this is an alternate universe, I wanna see what happens..

 

[Vinz]

This^, I really hope Blizzard makes him legendary.

E: On second thought, no, they made Grom (which is supposed to be the end boss) have a bad image just to showcase some war. They'll do the same.

 

[Heinvers]

5

 

[Wolffman]

5

Wait, what??? This is confusing in soo many ways?!?!?!?

It's a 5-part series, and they include Maraad???
What about Blackhand? Did he NOT deserve a episode?
Confusing..Just Confusing..

 

[Vinz]

Just what I expected. Another ruiner. This is not Lords of War anymore, it's supposed to be an opening for WoD.

 

[Razosh]

Blackhand was a warrior who was only famed for his strength and cruelty his story would have been a copy of Kargath's and Grommash's, I think that either Ner'Zhul or Maraad were the best choices. I am not dissapointed in Blizzards choice though I agree that maybe they could have done a separate series for the Dreanai and the Frostwolf.