Lee Sin Spellpack v1.0.0

[gorillabull]

haha this is pretty good

[pred1980]

I'll test it later... maybe a good hero for our map ^^

Reg.

[Wrda]

Looks like a very interesting spell pack.

[Zirukurt01]

Needs MOAR creeps or creep spawn system.

[kStiyl]

Using safeguard heals yourself as well (and targetted ally)
Is this intended?

[Cokemonkey11]

Originally Posted by kStiyl

Using safeguard heals yourself as well (and targetted ally)
Is this intended?

It doesn't heal them, it uses my resource Shield to temporarily shield them from damage.

[kStiyl]

Originally Posted by Cokemonkey11

It doesn't heal them, it uses my resource Shield to temporarily shield them from damage.

That's not the point. I get that your system is supposed to temporarily shield them from damage. However, the problem is that safeguard doesn't actually shield you from damage but actually heals you for small amount when used (and you lose that hp in end)

This isn't how Lee Sin's W works, neither have I seen this kind of 'shield'

[Cokemonkey11]

kStiyl, there is no shield functionality in warcraft 3 that behaves like that of league of legends, so I've coded it myself. I can assure you it behaves exactly like in league of legends.

You can test it yourself by shielding, and then taking damage which is greater than the shield's value before its duration is over, and then see what happens after the duration.

[kStiyl]

All other shield systems I've seen behave like that, and I'm fairly sure that a lot of people are used to having shield that actually 'block' damage instead of showing it through fluctuating HP. Personally, I think it's confusing.

Is there some reason you coded it that way? I'm really curious
Sorry for going off-topic with spell

[Cokemonkey11]

Hello,

In the customize section of my Shield resource, there is a line:

private static constant real TIMER_PERIOD=1./10.

If you set the value to something like 1./30. or 1./60., the hp bars will not appear to fluctuate anymore.

The reason why there is some "false" hp added to the unit is to better match how health bars look in league of legends. It has the added benefit of reducing the chance of fatal damage killing a unit that should otherwise be blocked.

Here's an example:

Unit has 10/200 hp and uses a shield ability which should block 100 damage. In my system, the unit will temporarily have 110 hp, thus it can block an attack of, say, 50 damage.

However, in the systems you may be used to seeing, this feature does not exist. A unit with 10 hp who uses a shield will die to an attack which should deal 50 damage.

The reason why they work that way is because

most people are also used to having shield that actually 'block' damage

That doesn't exist - there is no way to directly block mixed damage.

[kStiyl]

Unit has 10/200 hp and uses a shield ability which should block 100 damage. In my system, the unit will temporarily have 110 hp, thus it can block an attack of, say, 50 damage.

However, in the systems you may be used to seeing, this feature does not exist. A unit with 10 hp who uses a shield will die to an attack which should deal 50 damage.

In the systems I am seeing (and using) can block fatal damage via 0 second timers + vitality gem ability. In same manner, I don't see how is your system going to block a damage that is over the unit's hp, if the only thing done is increasing current life.

(ex. what if a unit with 100 hp gets a shield of 100,000 via your system? is it going to block 100000 damage as well? increase its hp to 100,000?)

[Cokemonkey11]

Originally Posted by kStiyl

In the systems I am seeing (and using) can block fatal damage via 0 second timers + vitality gem ability. In same manner, I don't see how is your system going to block a damage that is over the unit's hp, if the only thing done is increasing current life.

(ex. what if a unit with 100 hp gets a shield of 100,000 via your system? is it going to block 100000 damage as well? increase its hp to 100,000?)

Hello,

The Periapt of Vitality item just uses "Item Life Bonus" as its ability (which gives some flat HP to whatever unit it is attached to). If you think my Shield resource could benefit from using this method, I'd be interested to hear about it.

Are you suggesting I:

1. Detect an attack
2. Add item life bonus temporarily
3. Use a 0. second timer
4. Remove the life bonus (logicly)

I'd have to do some tests to see if this can actually block fatal damage as you say.

However, to answer your question,

(ex. what if a unit with 100 hp gets a shield of 100,000 via your system? is it going to block 100000 damage as well? increase its hp to 100,000?)

No it won't give the unit 100,000 more hp. It will just fill the void up to the unit's max hp, and then the rest is stored in a separate variable.

To simplify, the system would still block 100,000 hp, but the unit would not appear to have 100,000 hp.

Here are the members of Shield instances:

Jass:

        private unit u
        private real shieldLeft
        private real falseHP
        private real timeLeft
        private effect fx
        private thistype prevShield=0
        private thistype nextShield=0

Where falseHP is the amount of hp temporarily added, and shieldLeft is the unallocated shield value - the two together represent the shield's total value.

[Almia]

Too bad its still pending.