[Repo] Order Ids

[Nestharus]

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[Magtheridon96]

I'm not totally sure about this, but isn't OFFSET supposed to be 0x0D0000 -> 851968

 

[Nestharus]

Nope, it should actually be 851970, or 0xD0002 I think. Gotta check order id that's issued when stunned ;P

 

[axleion]

for the sake of completion, how about add the order id for:
1. using item in each slot?
2. the order id for 'wand of illusion' item ability and lots alike?

and i'm wondering how could this kill the speed of global variables?

 

[Nestharus]

for the sake of completion, how about add the order id for:
1. using item in each slot?
2. the order id for 'wand of illusion' item ability and lots alike?

and i'm wondering how could this kill the speed of global variables?

I'm adding a lot more orders than just those... like the order issued to a unit when stunned and the smart order ; P.

Also... as you declare more things in a map, it adds to the scope. When a variable is read, it has to be looked up. The more things in the scope, the longer it takes to look something up. Global variable speed were once tested against locals, and it was found that the more globals there were in the map, the slower globals were as compared to locals. With I think like 100 or 1000 (was a long time ago), it was as much as a 1000% difference.

2. the order id for 'wand of illusion' item ability and lots alike?

Are those really useful? :\

/cry

 

[Nestharus]

Updated with new orders. There are 4 unknowns if anyone knows what they are.

 

[axleion]

Are those really useful? :\
/cry

well, that 'Wand of Illusion' item ability is a great to use as a base ability to generates illusion, target unit based, and doesn't make the source unit invulnerable for a period etc.
this is the only item ability, which as far as i know, is widely used for illusion generating, and to use it AS an ability, it cannot be ordered via orderstring, it only accessible via orderID.
other workaround, is to make a dummy item containing that ability, and order the dummy to use that item instead, which i presume as inefficient unlike using the ability directly.

what do you think?
just questioning, have you ever try making a spell that involves illusions?
perhaps if my answer above don't make sense, you should try it yourself^^

 

[Nestharus]

perhaps if my answer above don't make sense, you should try it yourself^^

Oh it does, so I'll add it : \

edit
It sounds like you know the order id, so what is it so that I don't have to look it up ;D.


Yea from now on, if you want an order added and you already know it, please just post the id up =).

 

[axleion]

the orderID of 'Item Illusion' is 852274

 

[Bribe]

Since the user is free to c&p any desire order id to their map, this thing provides usefulness while not imposing on users. Being a very comprehensive repository, it deserves to be approved.

 

[DoctorGester]

lol, look at this -> http://screenshot.su/show.php?img=ebdccd25001dfd4eb74c7abfa9c35ff0.jpg
also there is a bunch of optimizing defines:
http://screenshot.su/show.php?img=fb18eebc0af42d3932c272150cd753e4.jpg

> It might be smarter to just find the id you need in the list and use it = ).
i'd rather use convert order util -.-

 

[Magtheridon96]

i'd rather use convert order util -.-

1- Don't double post especially in the Jass section =C
2- They're organized in alphabetical order, so I don't see why you'd find it inconvinient
3- Directly using the integers is more efficient

 

[Nestharus]

Mag, those are definitions, so they are direct integers.


Doctor, the problem is that cjass is buggy, otherwise that would be fantastic.

 

[Magtheridon96]

Mag, those are definitions, so they are direct integers.

I know that D:

 

[DoctorGester]

> Don't double post especially in the Jass section =C
sry.
> They're organized in alphabetical order, so I don't see why you'd find it inconvinient
look at the date in my screenshot, it's 2009, so, i only wanted to say, that library containing all orders already exists.
> cjass is buggy
not so buggy, as you think. there is only bugs with static ifs and textmacros declaring inside the functions, and you can use cjass #if's and #define's instead of it.

 

[Bribe]

cJass should make semicolons a requirement and disallow
meshing up plain JASS with it. It just looks weird.

 

[DoctorGester]

Bribe, your arguments looks "weird" =(
why cjass should limit users in writing their code? everyone writes it as he wants. so, maybe blizzard should disallow use custom script in GUI, because it looks weird? also, you can use semicolon where do you want to use it. the main purpose of cjass it's making the code shorter, simplier, and allow users to write their code much faster, so limits interfere this purpose.

 

[Bribe]

Readability is a huge factor. Custom script in GUI is fine as
long as it's not superfluous. But Bad form is pretty common
in cJass -- either make the script line-break based or make
it C-syntax, but not both.

 

[DoctorGester]

> but not both.
why not?
i can make my code fully using semicolons, if i think, that it will improve readability, or make it line-break based, if i think, that it's enough. it depends only on user, cjass supports semicolons, but it's not necessarily to use it everywhere.

 

[Bribe]

Perl is a public language that's pretty much unreadable
to anyone but the guy who wrote it. While cJass isn't
nearly so bad, it's spaghetti code at best.

I worked lots on making a readable syntax for JASS,
even asking for support from the community, but there
currently is not enough agreement on how the syntax
should be done. I think it's because JASS is just an ugly
language and unable to make beautiful, due to its limits.

Maybe in that sense cJass is understandable, but the
big JASS communities (HiveWorkshop, wc3c, TheHelper)
do not accept it in public resources.

 

[Nestharus]

They don't accept it in public resources because it has bugs that can potentially break vjass resources >.>.


Yea, you can argue that you can use #define, but if you use vjass resources, you will end up having to change them.