Invocations - v.2.10

[Moderator]

ap0calypse: Rejected

21:33, 12th Sep 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected (until updated)

 

[Darkzealot_128]

Gonna check. Looks like it has bad terrain right now.

Edit: Ok checked it. Here are the results:

Pros: Good filesize

Cons: Bad terrain.
Over-placed amounts of neutral hostile units.

Overall: Melee maps need good terrain to generally just be melee maps and over place amounts of units gives it another -1 so 2/5 I guess.

 

[Narrat0r]

Bad description... how many times did I say this?

 

[Mr Bruce]

Im not good at making cool and impressive terrain...
this is the first serious map that I made...

 

[Darkzealot_128]

Melee maps are only for the good terrainers.

 

[Mr Bruce]

There may be many hostile creeps but as you probably experienced: it is easy to deal with them due to your items. It's to show on the one hand that it's necessary to summon help and on the other hand to earn more items. I cannot just place them anywhere... Creeping or avoiding them allows in addition more tactics which varies the gameplay.

 

[Zenonoth]

Apart from the bad discription, this map rules, the only problem is the terrain, I'm giving it 4/5 hoping that you improve next time, keep up the good work ( No Sarcasm )

 

[light bolt30]

Judging from preview image, the terrain doesn't seem well made. Doesn't look balanced. Description can be improved, no one wants to look at that. Here's a list of BB Codes for you to do so.

 

[Crave.]

Even melee maps can have awesome description. Let me find one for you.

EDIT: Icecrown Glacier (by Rui)
The description there may seem short, but its better than the norm. If a melee map's description can be that good, I bet an altered melee will have more to talk about.

 

[Mr Bruce]

I improved the description...
I hope it is better like this, if not please give further advice

 

[Ironside]

It's better, maybe add screenshots too?

 

[Greedforce]

Too much text too bad description.

FIX IT!!!

 

[Icedrake]

Melee maps are only for the good terrainers.

In all seriousness, what are first time map makers supposed to make then? If you say melee maps are only for good terrainers, what are new map makers supposed to create? What I've heard is the new map makers should start out making melee maps. Maybe that was wrong then.

 

[ap0calypse]

In all seriousness, what are first time map makers supposed to make then? If you say melee maps are only for good terrainers, what are new map makers supposed to create? What I've heard is the new map makers should start out making melee maps. Maybe that was wrong then.

It was semi-wrong.
New mappers can make anything they want to: melee-maps, TD's, RPG's or whatever.
The problem here is that they can't just upload those maps anywhere they want.

Mappers learn mapping because they're using the WE, because they're triggering, because they're creating objects and they will also learn from comments of others (such as members on a modding community).
The proper way of doing this, however, is the map development section, or going the World Editor Help Zone for questions - not uploading the map in the actual resource section (which is bound by rules).

Edit:

Triggers:

• Remove all "Do Nothing"s (it just doesn't do anything, but any program that isn't ordered anything will do nothing automatically, thus it's useless).
• Remove the leaks (find a tutorial for memory leaks).
• Learn how to use loops (for each integer X from Y to Z do).
• You can combine all triggers that are specific for each player (combine triggers such as [Triggername] Red, [Triggername] Blue etc).

Terrain:

• Use a lot more tilesets.
• Don't use blizzard cliffs that often.
• Place a lot more doodads (environmental doodads such as rocks, shrubs, ...).
• Use the raise/lower-tool to create wavy patterns (watch out: don't make spikes, make it smooth).
• Try not to make blocks of trees, make them appear more natural.
• Warning: do not use cinematic doodads (I know you didn't, but this is a premature warning).

Objects:

• Balance the creep camps more (don't mass a few units, choose the units you want - those units should fit together as well).
• Pick item drops with more care (now you just gave some units a few item drops and that's completely imbalanced).
• Learn more about the object editor (you should at least know how the damage formula works and how to make objects appear more customized).

English only!
Never upload a non-English map here, nor are you allowed to talk German (or any other language that isn't English) in the public forum.