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I'm NOT blackmailing anyone, what's going on? You said the ported models are unacceptable. You said reason for their rejection is that there's no ingame screenshot for the model/unused geosets that people can utilitize/unused animations that people can delete/rename/use/utilize and I respect that and am fine with it completely (No sarcasm btw) I said I'm sorry and are removing them coz they violate site rules since I cannot work on 210+ models atm I also have IRL work and other projects I'm working on. I'll rework them in the future (I still have their source) I just don't like being spammed with 3 messages every now and then "Your model has been rated" - "Model's problems are 1/2/3..etc" .. and I am NOT blackmailing anyone. If you look at my posted resources some of my models/sounds have been rejected/set to substandard and I am totally fine and didn't complain about it.

"Hello! I've downloaded the Model, did some testing and I can offer my review:

To have it set to Approved, please do the following changes:

- The Submission must include an ingame screenshot (Please read Model Submission Rules)

Main Model:

• Remove unused geosets (filesize drop by 700kb)
• Model needs to be rescaled (Needs to be 1 to 1 or close to 1 to 1 to a normal Warcraft 3 Hero Scale)
• Fix attachment points (Chest Ref, Hand Left Ref, Hand Right Ref)

Include a separate Model ("Game Ready") with all the above fixes that doesn't require any additional model editing outside Warcraft 3 Editor:

• Must have Attached Weapon
• Must have only the basic Warcraft 3 animations (Remove all the unnecesarry animations, Rename correctly the remaining animations and Walk Fast must be the only Walk animation)

My requests are simple, clear and won't take more than 10-15 minutes of your time.

Thank you!"


This is a 10 minute work, more than you spent porting the model, you are making a big case out of nothing
You can leave them in pending update, nobody is asking you to delete them

have you thought about how much time it will take to delete so many models? ask @Gtron
just leave them as they are, if you don't want to get notifications then turn them off here

I'll just rework them from beginning just not now. All models I've posted before in Ported Models section may/probably have these issues (Mentioned above).

You are just overreacting, I fixed models for everyone in the ported section, you can leave them there, if you don't have time, I can fix them, I never asked anything in return

Also unused geosets / duplicated geosets have no use for anyone,

If you don't know how to fix what I've asked, at least admit it and it's fine

As I said, you are making a big case when you can just leave the models pending update

I'm overreacting? You're setting models to awaiting update because there's "no ingame screenshot" when there's a View 3D and the ingame screenshot doesn't look different from the thumbnail? - You're doing the same for some of Sarsaprilla's ported models because of the "Walk fast" animation is not renamed and you say I'm overreacting/don't know how to delete unused geosets.. If you check some of the earlier ported models many people complained to me that I did that and because I deleted animations I thought were useless like "Stand hit" and "Cinematic" animations when they said they need them for their cinematic maps + cutscenes and I had to remake them said version in private and once again I'm totally fine with that if this is hive's rules I'll just remake them and I also don't ask for anything in return.

duplicated geosets have nothing to do with animations tho ,what are you talking about?

also you can include a separate model, that is optimized for gameplay, the upload limit is not just one model

you can have 1 model for cinematic use with full animations and 1 model for game ready with only basic animations

why do you assume all the users on this site know how to edit models?

I acknowledge yes that some of my models may have an issue with duplicated geosets yes and I haven't the time to do check all 210 models for the time being so once again so I said I'll remake/fix/repost them when they're fixed in the future in a more neat/organized way.

man you haven't spent more than 5 minutes to port any of those models, you are not the only one who can port models, I've been doing that for many many years

you are making a big case because I just asked you to fix little things that can't take more than 10 minutes of your time

anyway, it's your decision to react like that, have a good day

-If the problem was with the duplicated geosets/attachment points or even team color then I'm totally fine with that. You've set "ported models" to awaiting update not even by me but Saarsaprilla and others to awaiting update because of not having an ingame screenshot when there's 3D view!!!!! Like 75% of models even in the models section and not ported models' section don't even have an ingame screenshot and just a Thumbnail + animations doesn't suit you and in some cases you're not satisfied with a model being called "Thorim with weapon" or with them having a walk fast instead of a walk slow animation when you can just modify run speed ingame in object editor and in the end I'm the one who's overreacting? And for the 3rd time I'm fine with all this if this is Hive's rules I just said I'll repost them in the future when I have time to fix them.

I think this issue we porters have had with Navy can be resolved by him uploading a secondary version of the model that suits his standards. Call it a Mapmaker version but keep the original in the post for for those who want to use it.

Funny Gtron, how you were in the same situation not so long ago. The problem are not my requests. The Problem is that I have requests and your giant fragile egos can't take any kind of criticism. Funny again Gtron, how you find yourself talking here when you were mocking and insulting the Hive Staff, and yet they decided not to ban you (and you still continued to mock some other model reviewer from sd content).

You are not the only ones who can port models, others can do it aswell. You are taking advantage that the Staff is too nice.

And this whole "blackmailing" thing that "nobody is allowed to tell me anything otherwise I'm taking my toys and leave" is not working anymore.

You are free to delete everything so others can port them correctly.

You spent 5 minutes to port a model and post it and you get upset because I ask you to rename some animations, fix attachment points and remove duplicated geosets? so you can actually provide a decent quality model? You can't even name a file properly Thorim? Do you even read what your commenting? You put a paypal link to your posts and you accept money for a 5 minute work? it's insane

@Navy this is my last post on this topic and I hope I won't have to respond anymore not to cause further drama.

1-I'm not blackmailing (This is the 4th time I respond to this claim in this comment chain and I've closed this subject and said I'll rework them in the future so they suit Hive rules) notice that you and Tillinghast accused me of such in the above comments saying I am "bitchfighting" and "blackmailing" which is inappropriate but now I'll have to report this.

2-In response to what you said about "giant fragile egos" and "I'm taking my toys and leave"; Take a moment and look at the 3 models I posted in my resources + some of the soundpacks I posted/shared + the 3 maps I've made. You'll notice:
- My 3 models have been set to awaiting update and I never complained and recognized the legitimate takes/comments by @ILH

• Some of the sounds I posted/shared are also rips and they've been set to substandard I never complained because like you said anyone can do this
• Even my 3 maps have lot of criticism of them and some low reviews and I've no comment/complaining in fact I ask for nitpicking criticism

- One of the maps I posted long ago (Though this may be hard to prove since I deleted it) was rejected because a few years ago Hive had a policy of rejecting maps that included ripped models from other games (My map was a digimon one) and it got completely rejected and I didn't complain or cry out I accepted the resolution/Staff directives and it got removed. Didn't bitchfight or threaten anything like what Mr. Tillinghast implied above.

- One of the campaigns I was working with @Sapprine got harsh criticism (Called Final Battle or something..) and I deleted it not out of "taking my toys away" but because I wanted to repost it in a better shape from scratch. Some members even PM'd me in private asking what happened to it and I sent it to them (The campaign files) so they can resume work on it themselves if they want and did the same with other campaigns/projects and I even have a whole thread about handing over my unfinished work.

- Last.. I didn't remove the models because I'm blackmailing/bitchfighting/anything of that sort I'll repost them in a better shape to satisfy Hive's rules if that's the case. Now since you're insisting I must say this frankly: I'm here since 2009 and I know other people were there before me. I've never seen a staff member behave this way: Setting models to awaiting update because there's no screenshot when there's a 3D viewer and there's a thumbnail that resembles it. / 2-Asking for walk fast/walk anims to be renamed when you can just modify run speed in object editor / 3-Asking a model be renamed from "Thorim with weapon" / 4-Deleting "unwanted/cinematic" anims or making a separate model for "Ported models" that some people utilize for cinematics. And I've never seen a staff member bully a member like this. I've deleted the models and said I'll repost them in the future when it suits Hive's standards/When they fix it and said I'll provide them to anyone who asks in PM and that should've been the end of it but instead you keep saying I'm blackmailing and bullying/threatening me and someone above with "The staff is too lenient on you"/"You're taking advantage of staff"..etc. What exactly is going on?!

This has nothing to do with your maps or other stuff, it has to do with the ported models, you are trying to deviate the subject and make yourself look like a victim.

If this wasn't a problem you wouldn't had made a big post that you are deleting everything. You have a problem you come and talk to me in private, the fact that you went public shows the real facts no matter how much you try to show otherwise.

This is from the Site Rules: Resource Submission Rules:
Resubmitting a previously submitted resource is not permitted, even when deleted first. You can request your resource to be undeleted or re-reviewed in the Staff Contact forum.

But again you don't read the rules ,same with providing an ingame screenshot of the ported model. It's ok, I'm the bad guy for pointing that out

"Setting models to awaiting update because there's no screenshot" Common bro, screenshots are required as per the rules. If you feel they are unfair, you are free to make a post asking staff to reconsider the rules. Also, since you have been here since 2009, have you not seen Deepstrasz setting maps to awaiting update for not showing a credit list, despite Hive now having a feature that shows all hive resource authors' resources used in a map?

Navy, I think you need to take some time to calm down and reflect upon your aggression here. I have not mocked anyone and you need to learn to respect people having technical disagreements with you, especially when they provide valid reasoning for those disagreements. I am not mocking anyone. I appreciate everyone's contributions and attempts to improve quality. Improving the quality of ports for mapmakers is a noble goal.