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[007]

if i use a trigger in which the editor does something "randomly" it does not really work. it does do something randomly but only once. every time i test the game exactly the same thing happens.

i want an event to be chosen randomly. it is the same event every time.
in that event i want a unit to appear at a random place. it is the same place every time.

isnt there a way to have something really happen randomly. if you play the game a couple of times you always know what happens next and that really sucks.

 

[ap0calypse]

Go to File -> Preferences -> Test Map and turn off "Fixed Random Seed".
That value makes it so the random value is always the same when testing the map, turning it off will solve your problem.

 

[defskull]

Go to File -> Preferences -> Test Map and turn off "Fixed Random Seed".
That value makes it so the random value is always the same when testing the map, turning it off will solve your problem.

Does the "same-random-event" problem ONLY applied to Test Map ?
It differs when we play a real game, right ?

 

[ap0calypse]

Does the "same-random-event" problem ONLY applied to Test Map ?
It differs when we play a real game, right ?

Indeed ^^
(it's an editor-only value, meaning that it's only activated when accessed through the editor).

Still, it's a lot easier to turn off that function and use CTRL + F9 to test your map.

 

[007]

well ok it works when opening the map in warcraft. thanks

 

[Dr Super Good]

The pesudo random number generator in WC3 is adiquit. Probaility is done correctly and generally stuff that should be 50:50 is 50:50 to within minro allowed varience. The only problem occurs (like all pesudo number generators) is that there are a finite number of sequences it can produce and thus true randomness is impossible. You can not get a godly steak of the same result infinite times in a row although the laws of probability do allow for that (just it becomes infinitly unlikly).

I am guessing the Seed used by the pesudo random generator is dictated by the game host so it could be possible for a bot to start all maps with the same seed although this defeates the purpose of random numbers.

 

[defskull]

What for is Blizzard trying to achieve ?
Using same random event, but name it, "random" ?
Why even that option exist in WE ?

 

[Dr Super Good]

It allows controled testing and all it does it use a fixed or randomly generated seed.

SC2 has taken it further where you can actually enter the random seed you want to use.