Where are you brothers?

[Darko_Darkking]

@Darko. NONE!I'm trying to make everyone hate me so they can leave me alone

TIPS if you want alone and be hated:

1. Stop posting, those are ways to get attention
2. Disable your VM and PM


Optional:
3. Spam and double post
4. Get negative rep
5. Got banned

 

[Zaramorus]

He was a liar. He said he destroyed human kingdoms... And yet it turns out only Lordearon was destroyed and everyone else was just forgotten.

Well acutally he destroyed Lordaeron and Dalaran, but there really werent any other human kingdoms, because Stormwind was still in ruins at that time so no Arathor kingdom. Well Kul Tiras is still not even in the game, Alterac kingdom was destroyed in the second war already and Gilneas was pretty much forgotten.

 

[VeljkoM]

Stormwind isn't Arathor (the historical unified human kingdom) and it was rebuilt at that time, Stromgrade still existed, Gillneas still existed, Kul Tiras was in Wc3 and Alterac doesn't count as it didn't exist as independent nation at that time. Dalaran is really more like a city state anyway. The way Archimonde implied he destroyed humanity but Lordearon was already in ruins thanks to Scourge alone and only Dalaran did he destroy himself.

 

[Cherrymage]

WoW, this is turning from an anti-high elves thread into a WarCraft lore discussion......Good job.

 

[Heinvers]

It was supposed to be like that in the first place not a hate thread.

 

[Vinz]

WoW, this is turning from an anti-high elves thread into a WarCraft lore discussion......Good job.

Good job indeed, that should be the original point of the thread.

 

[Chen]

Yay Horde!

Actually the Horde-Alliance war hates me so I hate it too. I side more with the Horde but I love Night Elves, Worgen and Draenei A.K.A Western Alliance.

 

[Sclammerz]

I love Night Elves, Worgen and Draenei A.K.A Western Alliance.

This. Except for worgens.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well Worgen are really just humans from the East now aren't they. Night Elves for me will always remain their own faction. Draenei complicated subject. Hey to be fair we are in Warcraft III sub forum so Sentinels are still independent, Worgen are still non existent and Draenei are still not retconed. It isn't like WoW is using them properly anyway, it is all about Stormwind in WoW Alliance...

Anyway honestly the best alliance was Lordearon Alliance. Who really likes Stormwind?

 

[redsew]

There is so much gap between WoW and WarCraft 3 for me... I only played up to Cataclysm I believe...
But from what I remember, I think there were some early forms of the Draenei in the earlier WarCraft franchise. They were some creep or something that didn't evolve to the newer versions of the Draenei, and when the Draenei came back, the new genetic versions of them were presented?
I could be wrong, it just seems like the species were never clearly introduced into the game. It just doesn't make much sense really. They compared the creeps with the Draenei as if they originated from there and just continued to get stronger and stronger from their other areas.

 

[Sclammerz]

You mean the Lost Ones?

 

[VeljkoM]

History of Draenei (real world perspective, not lore)

Warcraft 1: Extinct and never named.
Warcraft 2: Extinct, first time we learn the name.
Warcraft 3 TFT: First appearance, presented as guerrilla warriors of dying race.
WoW Classic: Same as TFT, some Draenei migrated to Azeroth.
WoW TBC: Complete retcon. Draenei are suddenly same as Eredar, take the role of the know it all race of the expansion. We have Eredar, Draenei, Broken and Lost Ones.
post TBC: Pointless
WoW WoD: Blizzard remembers Draenei exist.

 

[Heinvers]

One thing that bothered me was that Blizz just took those critters (no offense) and made non-existent things into something else.

 

[Zaramorus]

History of Draenei (real world perspective, not lore)

Warcraft 1: Extinct and never named.
Warcraft 2: Extinct, first time we learn the name.
Warcraft 3 TFT: First appearance, presented as guerrilla warriors of dying race.
WoW Classic: Same as TFT, some Draenei migrated to Azeroth.
WoW TBC: Complete retcon. Draenei are suddenly same as Eredar, take the role of the know it all race of the expansion. We have Eredar, Draenei, Broken and Lost Ones.
post TBC: Pointless
WoW WoD: Blizzard remembers Draenei exist.

Eredar is the Draenei.

 

[VeljkoM]

Eredar is the Draenei.

Wow I did not know that at all.

WoW TBC: Complete retcon. Draenei are suddenly same as Eredar, take the role of the know it all race of the expansion. We have Eredar, Draenei, Broken and Lost Ones.

 

[Heinvers]

Eredar is the Draenei.

Say something new.

 

[Sclammerz]

Say something new.

Like?

 

[Zaramorus]

Wow I did not know that at all.

Well i didnt understand your post thats why. You wrote that Draenei are suddenly eredars and by that i thought you meant that they werent Eredar before.

 

[VeljkoM]

It seems you still don't understand.

Warcraft 1: Extinct and never named.
Warcraft 2: Extinct, first time we learn the name.
Warcraft 3 TFT: First appearance, presented as guerrilla warriors of dying race.
WoW Classic: Same as TFT, some Draenei migrated to Azeroth.

As you can see before Burning Crusade 'Eredar and Draenei were not same". My whole point was to show the real life progress of draenei lore and the crowning example of retcon in warcraft history. When the Expansion was released, the Draenei retcon represented the largest retcon in warcraft gaming history.

The severity of the retcon was lowered with each expansion and also since Dranei became useless after TBC and weren't salvaged until current expansion finally. But I don't forget and I still remember the lore of Warcraft 2 and 3 without influence of WoW and Novels. Retcons plague Warcraft.

 

[Cherrymage]

This is getting derailed.

Originally, it was supposed to be Archimonde Supreme's place to gather Horde comrades (and some flames and insults, no offense), but now it become a Warcraft Lore discussion...

 

[Vinz]

Of course. The Horde is a part of the lore.

 

[Chaosy]

Tons of salt in this thread.

 

[Deleted member 242951]

I agree Lok-Tar-Ogar