Techtree requirements on Sold Units

[bbfreak]

Can you not add techtree requirements on units sold at a building? It seems that whatever requirement I add I can always buy the units. Is there anyway else to do this?

 

[shinji]

You could use triggers.

• Player - Disable training of "bla" for "bla"

 

[bbfreak]

i tried it and it didn't work. probably because you're not training the unit you are buying the unit.

Is there really no way to have techtree requirements for units sold at a tavern?

 

[shinji]

i tried it and it didn't work. probably because you're not training the unit you are buying the unit.

Is there really no way to have techtree requirements for units sold at a tavern?

It works for me. It works for taverns. You haven't tried it yet, have you?

 

[bbfreak]

I really just did. let me try it on a new map i guess

 

[shinji]

I really just did. let me try it on a new map i guess

I used this trigger for an AOS map. So there won't be two same heroes.

 

[bbfreak]

i just put a peasant into a tavern on a new map then added this trigger.

• Untitled Trigger 001
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -disable as An exact match
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Player - Limit training of Peasant to 0 for Player 1 (Red)
    • Player - Make Peasant Unavailable for training/construction by Player 1 (Red)

doesn't disable it. am i missing something?

 

[shinji]

i just put a peasant into a tavern on a new map then added this trigger.

• Untitled Trigger 001
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -disable as An exact match
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Player - Limit training of Peasant to 0 for Player 1 (Red)
    • Player - Make Peasant Unavailable for training/construction by Player 1 (Red)

doesn't disable it. am i missing something?

Try removing the limit trigger.

 

[bbfreak]

ive tried both of them separate and together. I've also added a random unit requirement to the peasant and you can still buy him.

 

[shinji]

ive tried both of them separate and together. I've also added a random unit requirement to the peasant and you can still buy him.

Well... I'll send a test map to you after my appointment.

 

[bbfreak]

thanks

 

[shinji]

Here you go my friend.

 

[bbfreak]

that only works for heroes. not units. and i would really prefer it to not completely remove the unit, just grey it out and show the requirement

 

[shinji]

that only works for heroes. not units. and i would really prefer it to not completely remove the unit, just grey it out and show the requirement

Oh. That's easy. In the object editor, there's a field. "Tech tree requirement" That should work.

 

[Adiktuz]

@shinji:

Can you not add techtree requirements on units sold at a building? It seems that whatever requirement I add I can always buy the units. Is there anyway else to do this?.

he already tried that but apparently it doesn't work...

 

[shinji]

Hmm... Do the same thing as buying a hero from a tavern requires an altar.

 

[Adiktuz]

again, heroes... maybe they were hardcoded to work only for heroes? just as how the trigger you gave him only worked for heroes? I really cannot test it right now...

@bbfreak - could you actually upload the map ur working on? there might also be a problem with the configurations...

 

[shinji]

Hmmm... I believe that I can be done in the object editor?

 

[Adiktuz]

I think so too...

but as far as bbfreak's original statement is concerned, it doesn't work for him when he do it via the Techtree requirements in the OE...

I'll quote it again in case you missed it...

Can you not add techtree requirements on units sold at a building? It seems that whatever requirement I add I can always buy the units. Is there anyway else to do this?

 

[shinji]

We'll wait for his map so we can solve it.

 

[Adiktuz]

yeah, let's hope he goes online soon... XD

 

[bbfreak]

i started a new test map just to make sure it wasn't a problem with my map and it still doesn't work.

I think the reason that the Any Altar works as a requirement is because its under the category Equivalents. When you try to add a peasant as a tech requirement to a sold unit it doesn't seem to require that tech requirement. Here is the test map I've created to show this.

It has 2 units in the tavern. One is a hero and the other is a unit. Both of them have a tech tree requirement of a peasant however only the hero actually requires that requirement.

 

[shinji]

Then blizzard has the problem... I'll see what Adiktuz has to say.

 

[Adiktuz]

then it just proves my point that they are hardcoded by Blizzard to work only for heroes... If this was the case, its not really a new thing... there are lots of hardcoded things in wc3 (just like how making a new ability based on Cloud or Incinerate [passive] doesn't work, or how stampede cannot be casted by dummy casters etc)

I'll look at the test map and try to see if there's something that can be done...

 

[shinji]

I see. Blizzard made it like that...

 

[Map Designer]

I had such problem. I made it that when the required unit comes near th building, the units are added. However, you can make it like this
event: unit buys unit
condition: number of required units owned by (owner of buying unti) = 0
actions:
remove sold unit from game
give gold back to buying player

I think it should be somethin like this

 

[Adiktuz]

@map

and i would really prefer it to not completely remove the unit, just grey it out and show the requirement

 

[Map Designer]

however, you can...

he does not have to do it my way.Plus, requirements can be added in the description So we are half way through, it just does not become grey.

 

[WhiteDeath]

If it works with heroes why don't you use a hero unit and when you buy it replace it with the unit you want.

 

[shinji]

If it works with heroes why don't you use a hero unit and when you buy it replace it with the unit you want.

Ah. That's a good idea.

Triggers

• Events
  • Map initialization
• Conditions
• Actions
  • Set UNIT[0] = Peon (Hero)
  • Set REPLACE_UNIT[0] = Peon
  • Set UNIT[1] = Grunt (Hero)
  • Set REPLACE_UNUT = Grunt

• Events
  • Unit - Unit sells a unit
• Conditions
• Actions
  • For each loop integer A
    • Actions
      • If all conditions are true...
        • Conditions
          • Unit type of sold unit is equal to UNIT[Anteger A]
        • Actions - then
          • Unit - Replace (Sold unit) with a REPLACE_UNIT[Integer A]
        • Actions - else

 

[bbfreak]

yeah i thought about that awhile ago, it's just gonna be a pain in the ass considering I have like 50 units. Oh well ^_^