Sc Heroes

[Just_Spectating]

SDota (Starcraft Defence of the Ancients)

 

[Massive_attack]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Pure evil.

 

[PurplePoot]

DotC.

Defence of the Cerebrates.

DotUP

Defence of the Umojan Protectorate

DotT

Defence of the Terrans

DotZ

Defence of the Zerg

DotP

Defence of the Protoss

DoS

Defence of Shakuras

'Nuff said.

 

[Moontraveler]

No it will be called Aeon of Strife 2... (If I remember right DotA was a rip off of the starcraft map Aeon of Strife.)

 

[LordDz]

So.. First time you logg in to B.net the screen will look like this:
ZERGLING FRENZY!!!!!
SDOTA!
DOTA! THE NEW DOTA
Join! Dota
Dota dota dota!
amg! DOTA the new DOTA!
Foot.. I mean Zergling Frenzy!
Bunker Wars..

U get the idea.

 

[KaboomMaster]

even if there arent heros i could still make dota through trigger heroes (god forbid someone else knows how [prob but we can dream cant we])


Down with DOTA!

 

[PurplePoot]

Zergling Blood Extreme was intense on StarCraft. (Like footies, but a lot more uber)

Hydra Ranchers (original footies) was good too.

I'm making one (Zergling Blood) if no one else does.

And yes, the original AoS was Aeon of Strife on StarCraft, though it's more of a Hero Defence.

 

[Dil999]

The first thing I plan to do when SC2 comes out is remake my favorite Starcraft game, penguin warz. Although almost nobody knows what the hell it is, its a bit like footies (except you get 1 zergling a second) and every 50 kills you get a bonus unit chooser. This was the fun part; the bonus units were all really fun and could rape hundreds of enemy lings at a time.

 

[Just_Spectating]

first thing imma do is make collossus defense, thats like the most common thing that you could think of! and it could go big!

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

'Wonder how RPs will be like..

 

[PurplePoot]

Dil, that sounds like a ripoff of Zergling Blood Extreme

(Zergling Blood was around right when BW came out)

 

[busterkomo]

I think the hero system will be similiar to Dawn of War(Upgradeable via buildings and such).

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

DotC.

Defence of the Cerebrates.

DotUP

Defence of the Umojan Protectorate

DotT

Defence of the Terrans

DotZ

Defence of the Zerg

DotP

Defence of the Protoss

DoS

Defence of Shakuras

'Nuff said.

Doe?
Defense of the exel naga? Or however its spelled...>.<

 

[PurplePoot]

It's Xel'Naga.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

How about an AoS based on the real event in starcraft lore, Aeon of Strife? One might assume that'd make more sense.

 

[PurplePoot]

That's what the original AoS was based off.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

That's what the original AoS was based off.

Cool. Perhaps they shall dub it AoS 2?

 

[Massive_attack]

No. Too many Wc3 noobs will go "WTF THIS IS NOT AOS BS OMFG" without realizing it was infact based off of the actual "Aeon of Strife" in the SC lore.

probably better to have it like AoS XP or AoSv2 or something.

just my 2 cents though, not all Wc3 noobs are drooling morons (though most are little kiddies around age 10, unfortunately).

Hell, now that i think about it, i dont think most Wc3 noobs knows what the "Aeon of Strife" really is.

 

[PurplePoot]

The AoS in starcraft was still similar to wc3 gameplay (but with upgrades instead of abilities), so why couldn't one with a far superior SC2 editor be?

Also, most wc3 nubs who would say that don't know the term AoS, they call them DotAs.

 

[Just_Spectating]

i will be pissed off at someone who calls any sc2 AoS a dota!!!!

 

[LordDz]

i will be pissed off at someone who calls any sc2 AoS a dota!!!!

I guess you will make suicide when SC2 comes out then..

 

[Gilles]

I never found out exactly what Aeon Of Strife was. I understand what kind of game it is, but is it just the name of a map made by some random guy for SC?

 

[Just_Spectating]

Ive played the sc AoS but it is boring because the upgrades are unbalanced with the zealot vs a hydra.

 

[Noob-Sai[Bot]]

Why not have SC2 units, it would be cool to have it rpgish.

 

[PurplePoot]

Of course it would have SC units -.-

It would be, after all, made in SC2.

And RPG != AoS.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

I never found out exactly what Aeon Of Strife was. I understand what kind of game it is, but is it just the name of a map made by some random guy for SC?

The Xel'Naga were initially revered as gods, as the Protoss looked towards their creators with respect and a lust for knowledge. However, as the understanding and personal awareness of the young Protoss grew, they began to place greater pride in individual achievements rather than the benefit of the community. The various Tribes sought to distance themselves from one another, seeking their role not only within their immediate society, but the universe as a whole.

The tribes began to fear treachery from their masters, and in seeking to sever themselves from the rest of their race, attempted to lose the psychic link that they shared. This dissolved whatever remnants of brotherhood or unity that the Protoss had shared. Feeling that the greatest attribute of the Protoss was lost, the Xel'Naga began withdrawing from Aiur. However, the suspicious Protoss responded with an attack on the Xel'Naga Worldships, which fended off the hasty attack and left the system. The Protoss Tribes then turned against each other, beginning the Aeon of Strife, the most devastating civil war in recorded galactic history.[1]
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The Aeon of Strife

During the Aeon of Strife, Protoss advancement slowed, and the tribes waged a massive war with each other, lasting hundreds of years. Little is known from this time, but it is known that the Protoss lost their psionic link with each other. The Aeon of Strife was the longest, most devastating civil war to ever strike any currently known species. The most famous Tribe from this time period is the Akilae Tribe, which are to this day renowned as the Protoss' finest psionic warriors.[1]

During this time, the Protoss maintained colonies on other planets, often connected by Warp Gates, but these too quickly became gripped with the Strife.[3]

The Protoss Tribes descended into something resembling madness as they attacked one another. One example was the Mendella Incident, where the mainly underground settlement of Mendella was deliberately flooded when another Protoss faction destroyed a nearby reservoir.[4]
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He Who Brings Order

The mystic Khas (a word meaning "He who brings order") eventually brought about the end of the Strife. He had studied the "forbidden" teachings of the Xel'Naga and unearthed the Khaydarin Crystals. With these crystals he was able to amplify the psionic link, which had submerged itself in Protoss egos, and recreate the link.[1]

With this power, he travelled through Aiur and the other Protoss planets, teaching the Protoss he encountered to join the psionic link; this became a philosophy called the Khala. He demonstrated the powers of the Khaydarin Crystals at Gyras, where he ended the feuding by destroying the battleground. Eventually Khas reunited the majority of the Protoss, forming three castes and a new Tribe.

The very first group of warriors and students to surround him became the Ara Tribe, and joined the Judicator Caste. The other Tribes to quickly join also became members of this caste.[1]

The next group of Tribes became the Templar Caste (the warriors), and the majority of the Protoss became the Khalai Caste (workers and artisans), ending the civil war.

The theory known as the Khala brought on the Second Age for the Protoss. The Tribal society evolved into three Castes: the Judicator Caste (led by the Conclave), the Khalai Caste and the Templar.[1]

Basically, a giant Protoss civil war.

 

[Gilles]

So AoS is not a type of game, it was an event in SC lore! Thanks MSBB.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

So AoS is not a type of game, it was an event in SC lore! Thanks MSBB.

It's both. Someone made a game after this event, and it evolved into the game genre.

 

[PurplePoot]

And the Archon always gets surrounded and owned by Zealots =(

I was him the only time I played... meh.

It's fun, though.

 

[Shdow89]

Well maybe (if they don't include heroes in Sc2 which by my thought is sad they don't have heroes) someone will make Heroes System (now I highly Doubt that IceFrog i capable of such thing) and make a revalation of the game.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Well maybe (if they don't include heroes in Sc2 which by my thought is sad they don't have heroes) someone will make Heroes System (now I highly Doubt that IceFrog i capable of such thing) and make a revalation of the game.

Perhaps he's capable of stealing it, though?

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

The editor will probably include SOMETHING that is like the Wc3 hero system in one way or the other.

 

[Massive_attack]

*crosses fingers*

 

[SimonKurciski]

The editor will probably include SOMETHING that is like the Wc3 hero system in one way or the other.

That would be..........interesting. As long as they do not make heroes part of the melee system, I'm happy. Or maybe they could do a toggle thing. Heroes on/off.

 

[Elenai]

A toggle would be excellent.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

No, I don't want heroes in melee at all. AT ALL. They don't properly represent the melee gameplay of starcraft, a mere option or not. It'd be like having a printer cartridge come with your TV. Completely unnecessary and doesn't fit at all. If you want melee with heroes, it's not that hard to make your own map with such, assuming the editor comes with a hero system.

 

[PurplePoot]

If they include inventories, grrr.....

 

[Just_Spectating]

No, I don't want heroes in melee at all. AT ALL. They don't properly represent the melee gameplay of starcraft, a mere option or not. It'd be like having a printer cartridge come with your TV. Completely unnecessary and doesn't fit at all. If you want melee with heroes, it's not that hard to make your own map with such, assuming the editor comes with a hero system.

QFT!

this is Starcraft People! NOT ANOTHER WARCRAFT!

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

No, I don't want heroes in melee at all. AT ALL. They don't properly represent the melee gameplay of starcraft, a mere option or not. It'd be like having a printer cartridge come with your TV. Completely unnecessary and doesn't fit at all. If you want melee with heroes, it's not that hard to make your own map with such, assuming the editor comes with a hero system.

Lol! Yeah....warcraft should stay warcraft (too late, WoW) and starcraft should stay starcraft.

 

[SimonKurciski]

No, I don't want heroes in melee at all. AT ALL. They don't properly represent the melee gameplay of starcraft, a mere option or not. It'd be like having a printer cartridge come with your TV. Completely unnecessary and doesn't fit at all. If you want melee with heroes, it's not that hard to make your own map with such, assuming the editor comes with a hero system.

But if Blizzard DID put hereos in the melee game, I would rather it came with a toggle than without.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

But if Blizzard DID put hereos in the melee game, I would rather it came with a toggle than without.

Yes, but that's a compromise we could all live without.

 

[Elenai]

I think a toggle is an excellent idea...it gives both sides what they want.

Having heroes is not that bad...if its done right it is a good thing.

I would personally love to see an elite protoss with a pulse gun, and psionic blade with a few abilities leading a charge supported by several protoss units....(note this would not be an IMBA hero...it would easilly die if it went alone.)

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

I think a toggle is an excellent idea...it gives both sides what they want.

Having heroes is not that bad...if its done right it is a good thing.

I would personally love to see an elite protoss with a pulse gun, and psionic blade with a few abilities leading a charge supported by several protoss units....(note this would not be an IMBA hero...it would easilly die if it went alone.)

no.
no.
no.
no.
no.
no.
no.

THIS IS NOT WARCRAFT IN SPACE. IT'S MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED.

 

[Elenai]

Yeah, and Warcraft is a strategy game...Gasp! looks like it is'nt anymore....

Things change, Starcraft 2 is a new game, it isnt warcraft in space, but it is'nt starcraft 1 either. Thus heroes might actually be a good idea.

I see no reason why they would'nt be....as long as they are done correctly.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Yeah, and Warcraft is a strategy game...Gasp! looks like it is'nt anymore....

And clearly, all strategy games need wc3 styled heroes.

Things change, Starcraft 2 is a new game

And all new games require wc3 styled heroes as well.

it isnt warcraft in space, but it is'nt starcraft 1 either. Thus heroes might actually be a good idea.

I see no reason why they would'nt be....as long as they are done correctly.

And the correct way to do it is not doing it at all.

WC3 styled heroes in Starcraft makes about as much sense as superweapons in WC3. It's an obvious border of macro vs micro. You want to blur this border? Make your own damn map. Just don't piss on the melee stylings that Blizzard so thoughtfully (or not so thoughtfully) constructed. Again, it is not warcraft in space.

 

[Elenai]

I am not saying Warcraft styled heroes are needed. What I am saying is that Leader units are a good idea.

I am also saying, that just because you do not want heroes in the game, that does not mean that the option of having them should be totally removed.

A toggle is a good compromise.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Well I think there aren't enough emos in starcraft. I say we have a toggle for turning all the units into emos as well.

It would be a great compromise.

 

[Tyranid]

Why are people beating a dead horse? From what I understand some of you want a WC 3 style hero or a commander in melee maps. Well THERE WON'T BE ANY! Blizzard has said that SOOO many times.

Heroes are restricted to Campaigns and Map Editor. The Campaign heroes are most likely like what they were in SC 1, except now they have special abilities and their own models. Maybe we can buy some upgrades for them from the whole "unit recruiting" machine before going into a mission (everyone who watched the Terran Campaign preview know what I'm talking about).

Also I THINK there will be WC 3 hero system in the map editor.

 

[Just_Spectating]

there is a thing in sc2, that if your units stay alive longer, then they get higher ranks. that could go for being a hero type system.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Why are people beating a dead horse? From what I understand some of you want a WC 3 style hero or a commander in melee maps. Well THERE WON'T BE ANY! Blizzard has said that SOOO many times.

How do you not get it? We're not saying whether or not there ARE going to be heroes in melee, we're discussing whether or not there SHOULD be heroes in melee. DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE, ARISTOTLE?

there is a thing in sc2, that if your units stay alive longer, then they get higher ranks. that could go for being a hero type system.

If you mean veterancy, no one really knows for sure yet.