With you 99% Shados. I agree that the whole global warming thing is, aherm, fraudulent, in most degrees, all I'm saying is that humans haven't done more good than evil; Nemesis, you say humans have done alot of good things, and I must ask, what have we done for nature? Everything humans do is selfish.
You say we cure disease, but what does that entail? That we live longer.
In places like America, that we live longer for a price. There is a price to sustain human life, through buying food, medicine, shelter....
Do animals have it right, where they piss themselves a line to say 'anyone crossing this dies?' I don't think humans could ever be so primitive again as we once were.
Every species has wars, some over territories, some over mates.
Humans have wars, some over territories, some fight over their women.
Sometimes we fight for money, power, in Bush's case, pride.
But on the whole, we aren't all that great... as a species. Yes, we were the first creatures on the earth to truly appreciate things like art and we have some fascinating paintings, structures and monuments to honour that. But the destruction upon which we built that monument and those structures, and the waste we dump into the water and the waste we fling into the atmosphere surely wouldn't have been caused by animals...
Without a doubt in my mind, though, we need everything we have. Not because we 'need' it, per se, but because we believe we do - we need cars to get around, we need planes to get even farther around, we need computers to talk to one another at any distance and cell phones to talk to each other much nearer. And every day, we learn another fatal flaw in our biological programming, and scientists discover that "eating too much celery can cause neural dystophymacy in your unborn child"...
We are the superpower race. But the fact that we are a race that doesn't cooperate, and that operates so independantly of itself, means no true good can ever be found.... I wish I could say that the world won't ever crumble down around itself, but hey, water level's rising, Greenland's turning into a puddle, and all in all I just don't see a reason not to be as optimistic as ever and toddle about my life until something cataclysmic happens.
I STRONGLY agree about your UN statement. Vetoing kind of defeats teh purpose of calling it "United Nations".