Bronzebeard, Wildhammer, and Dark Iron Clans

[Moderator]

12:38, 19th May 2014
Orcnet: Map approved.

 

[rcshaggy]

I really hate the Dark Iron.
It's kinda like the evil Grimtotem and luckily there are Darkhorn, and Shadowmane other Grimtotem tribes they could have like the Dark Iron.

 

[Wa666r]

I really hate the Dark Iron.
It's kinda like the evil Grimtotem and luckily there are Darkhorn, and Shadowmane other Grimtotem tribes they could have like the Dark Iron.

Well I know that a lot of people don't like the Dark Iron Clan; thus the reason why there has not been a single custom race of them. For this reason I decided to make one.

 

[Heinvers]

Well finally I see a rarely done race so far. Good work.

 

[CY The UnGodly]

Very nice but I have a request in the future would u make a Forsaken custom race? Cause I don't much of them around here.... and nice map

 

[Wa666r]

Thanks man! The Forsaken is a good choice. Maybe, just maybe

 

[CY The UnGodly]

Thanks man! The Forsaken is a good choice. Maybe, just maybe

Well if u ever make one that would be great GL

 

[Silverfox]

Personally, I don't have any problems with Dark Iron Clan (in fact one of my favorite factions in WoW lore).
The race is definitely unique from abilities to units I have no complaints. There are a few minor grammar issues, though.
Just one question: Did you ever consider making a mod with all of your races?
Good luck on your future races!

 

[Wa666r]

Personally, I don't have any problems with Dark Iron Clan (in fact one of my favorite factions in WoW lore).
The race is definitely unique from abilities to units I have no complaints. There are a few minor grammar issues, though.
Just one question: Did you ever consider making a mod with all of your races?
Good luck on your future races!

Grammar issues? Could you point out a few? They can be hard to spot by myself.
I have thought of placing all my races into one map, but then I realized that the file size would end up being far too large for most people. Even with all the file size reduction programs, the map would still be too large; containing hundreds of models and icons.

 

[Silverfox]

Regarding grammar issues:
All your Heroes say Revive "Heroname" instead of Summon "Heroname".
(Pyromagi) Circle of Fire
The Pyromagi sends o flurry of fire...
The Pyromagi sends a flurry of fire...

(Incinerator) Charring Flesh
After researching the upgrade, ability tooltip says nothing or #0.

Not a lot of them, just a few

 

[Monzaru]

I vote this for Highly Recommended!!

 

[Wa666r]

Regarding grammar issues:
All your Heroes say Revive "Heroname" instead of Summon "Heroname".
(Pyromagi) Circle of Fire
The Pyromagi sends o flurry of fire...
The Pyromagi sends a flurry of fire...

(Incinerator) Charring Flesh
After researching the upgrade, ability tooltip says nothing or #0.

Not a lot of them, just a few

Thanks man! Those errors have been fixed.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Very interesting. I really have next-to-no interest in Darkiron (Dark Iron?) Dwarves, so it's cool to see someone's take on them. I'm surprised you don't have more "sentient fire elemental"-type units trainable; core hounds? Might help you with having too many similar units on the battlefield ("dwarf-dwarf-dwarf-dwarf" ). I ran into the same thing with Trolls and have really tried to diversify with a variety of creatures & mounts & such; it helps.

I have thought of placing all my races into one map, but then I realized that the file size would end up being far too large for most people. Even with all the file size reduction programs, the map would still be too large; containing hundreds of models and icons.

Not if you use a custom MPQ, perhaps even a SEMPQ so it all loads up automatically. Look into it; it's what me and several other (race) modders do to beat that exact issue.

 

[Mechanical Man]

Very interesting. I really have next-to-no interest in Darkiron (Dark Iron?) Dwarves, so it's cool to see someone's take on them. I'm surprised you don't have more "sentient fire elemental"-type units trainable; core hounds? Might help you with having too many similar units on the battlefield ("dwarf-dwarf-dwarf-dwarf" ). I ran into the same thing with Trolls and have really tried to diversify with a variety of creatures & mounts & such; it helps.

Still better than WBC dark dwarves where only dwarf unit was the worker (and a hero if we count them).

 

[Orcnet]

Map approved.

 

[Ardenaso]

My request, how about the traitors of Alterac? Or just specifically... the Syndicate?

 

[Isgeir]

Dark Iron Dwarves are the best dwarves, it is known . I intended to do them myself, but as I see I'm always late. Very good job kind Sir!

 

[Wa666r]

My request, how about the traitors of Alterac? Or just specifically... the Syndicate?

Honestly, I have no idea of who those are haha.

 

[Wa666r]

Dark Iron Dwarves are the best dwarves, it is known . I intended to do them myself, but as I see I'm always late. Very good job kind Sir!

Thank you, sir. But don't let my map stop you from making your own

 

[Kyrbi0]

Still better than WBC dark dwarves where only dwarf unit was the worker (and a hero if we count them).

"WBC"? And yes, that does sound poorly thought out. I was referring somewhat to the build presented (somewheres) on this topic.

 

[Ardenaso]

Honestly, I have no idea of who those are haha.

Just a handful of bandits who are now mounding at Strahnbrad and nearby camps, they have terrible hatred to the alliance, who exiled every citizen away and to the horde, who forsook them when they needed them the most. It's currently being led by Aliden Perenolde, the former prince of Alterac.

My suggestion is this: Human race but oriented with bandits, assassins and renegade wizards and warlocks.

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

Nice race, was fun to play! Really liked the models and icons you used.

Also, not sure if this was intentional or not, but the effect for Pyormagi's ignite was at their origin (rather than their chest/center, I assume). Speaking of casters, really nice concepts you got there, the Shadowmancer guys were my favorite, although the higher-mana-better-efficiency thing for Pyromagi was pretty cool too.

Though, just a note, you might wanna look into these tooltips: Research Poison Bomb, Learn Surprise Strike, Learn Shadowburn and Dominators. You forgot to add a space between words in 3 of them, and Shadowburn looks really weird (doesn't mention anything for Level 3/cuts off after Level 2).

Speaking of tooltips, it'd be nice if you focused most hotkeys to be on the left side of the keyboard (seeing as to most players being right-handed), it's rather inconvenient to have something on B or D and another thing on I or O.

One last thing, why not give Interconnection a cooldown? I think it'd be nice, making the player choose whether to use it at that moment or save it for later. Anyway, an interesting race in overall, hope to see more races from you in the future!

 

[Wa666r]

Nice race, was fun to play! Really liked the models and icons you used.

Also, not sure if this was intentional or not, but the effect for Pyormagi's ignite was at their origin (rather than their chest/center, I assume). Speaking of casters, really nice concepts you got there, the Shadowmancer guys were my favorite, although the higher-mana-better-efficiency thing for Pyromagi was pretty cool too.

Though, just a note, you might wanna look into these tooltips: Research Poison Bomb, Learn Surprise Strike, Learn Shadowburn and Dominators. You forgot to add a space between words in 3 of them, and Shadowburn looks really weird (doesn't mention anything for Level 3/cuts off after Level 2).

Speaking of tooltips, it'd be nice if you focused most hotkeys to be on the left side of the keyboard (seeing as to most players being right-handed), it's rather inconvenient to have something on B or D and another thing on I or O.

One last thing, why not give Interconnection a cooldown? I think it'd be nice, making the player choose whether to use it at that moment or save it for later. Anyway, an interesting race in overall, hope to see more races from you in the future!

Thanks man! The origin thing was intentional; didn't want it to look just like Immolation. The Shadowmancer unit was one of the longest units time-wise that I worked on. He required 6 abilities and 3 extra dummy units just to work! Glad you liked it.

Thanks for the tooltips; I'll look into it. I was actually just thinking of doing the Azeroth Wars thing, and make all the tooltips Q,W,E,R, etc.

I wanted Interconnected to have no cooldown because that ability chooses buildings on the random, and I wanted the player to choose what buildings would get selected by trial-and-error.

 

[[K40$]-Spectre]

This is one the most fun custom races I ever played with warcraft 3, well done Wa666r! Also kindy weird orcnet gave this only a 3 out of 5. This is better than most other custom race maps.

- cool unit ideas with interesting abilities.
- love all the custom icons and models. High quality stuff.
- finally a race that offers offensive defense strategies. The deployable war tanks, upgrades for towers etc.

The only thing that bothered me that the race is a bit too strong when it comes to resource gathering. You definitely should keep the resource carts though cause it is unique (reminds of the Ox Carts in Age of Mythology), but make them more expensive etc.

5/5 from me.

 

[Wa666r]

This is one the most fun custom races I ever played with warcraft 3, well done Wa666r! Also kindy weird orcnet gave this only a 3 out of 5. This is better than most other custom race maps.

- cool unit ideas with interesting abilities.
- love all the custom icons and models. High quality stuff.
- finally a race that offers offensive defense strategies. The deployable war tanks, upgrades for towers etc.

The only thing that bothered me that the race is a bit too strong when it comes to resource gathering. You definitely should keep the resource carts though cause it is unique (reminds of the Ox Carts in Age of Mythology), but make them more expensive etc.

5/5 from me.

Thanks man. A lot of effort went into this map.
I am not sure why the map only received 3/5, maybe he is just a strict grader; all the other maps he approved by me also received a 3/5.

I have noticed a high rate of gold income sometimes when I tested them, but my lumber was always lacking. But I will definitely look into balancing it out some more.

P.S: I loved Age of Mythology

 

[Edge45]

Dang, your good, 4/5 for me
and i like those recolored icons too

 

[Sunreaver]

This is a nice map i loved your edited models or skins they are very nice 5/5

 

[Jevan Grimtotem]

5/5 Very Nice Map maybe you should try a grimtotem map or something

 

[Bloody Wolf]

you know, now that i've been thinking why not make a race for the elements?

EXAMPLE: Fire Elementals: the "base" is actually Ragnaros but he cant move unless you get a certain upgrade that allows him to realocate to a nearby gold mine (pretty much like the night elfs) he would also have attacks like hurling massive firebolts and stuff but all of his abilities need to be researched or else he would be too op. Im not sure if adding heroes would be a good idea since you will have a base that can assist your troops but the heroes would be his liutenants like Baron Geddon, etc.

 

[Eltilas]

I like the way they mine gold. However not sure it is balanced, i mean how fast do they amass gold due to distance between mine and a resource cart used. Seems, one or two workers can mine enough gold if resource cart is placed close. If I am right, you may give cart a special immobile form, that allows collecting resources.

 

[Ophinn the Shaman]

I think your reasoning behind making a dark iron clan race is excellent.
I found most people hated alliances races especially dwarves because of their racials, I however love Dwarven lore in any games.
Doing DI is a stroke of genius 5/5

 

[Draxle]

I really love playing this race and I think you did an awesome job capturing a real "Dark Iron" feel. I just wish the Skulkers had some sort of Stealth ability to ambush enemies!

 

[Blazethesage]

One thing I noticed, after researching the Incinerator's ability, it seemed... broken. The tooltip was broken on the Incinerator itself, and gave random gibberish nonsense, and it didn't appear active even after research. Never saw it go off, either.

 

[Venombite]

Lika all the other races this one is awesom too. However besides Dalaran, imo this one needs an update the most. Some things that might improve:

1. Buiding fortification is kinda op, escpecially on towers, maybe make it increase a bit less hitpoints.
2. It would imo be better if their towers start as scout towers, and then later be able to upgrade to both the current tower, and a cannon tower. Just think that Dark Iron Dwarves need a Cannon Tower for their vibe.
3. Might be good if Dark Iron buildings were only able to be built on lava, like Undead Blight.
4. Some models need to be changed, like the Mountain King foor soldier or the Shadowmancer, there quite a few Dwarf footmen on this site, and imo Shadowmancer would be better as a female. Generaly a few female units would be awesome.
5. Remove the Dragon and Helicopter, they kinda don't fit at all.
6. Would be nice to see some Dark Iron Core Hounds, if there is a model.
7. Would be awesome to see some reference to them worshiping Ragnaros.
8. Imo the Sorcerer hero should be female, and there should be one hero to reference their Thanes.

 

[Ardenaso]

Reforged port? there's the CSW models

 

[Wa666r]

Reforged port? there's the CSW models

Huh? Its a major update/overhaul

 

[Galendor an'Kreil]

Reforged port? there's the CSW models

Not enough models for this tech-tree, if you're talking about HD-graphics. Heroes, for example.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Huh? Its a major update/overhaul

Very cool to see you got to this, man. : )

Please tell me you saved the original faction write up (& all those nifty graphics) somewhere, though. :<

 

[Wa666r]

Very cool to see you got to this, man. : )

Please tell me you saved the original faction write up (& all those nifty graphics) somewhere, though. :<

Well the original version is still available on here.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Yeah but the write-up. :<

 

[Wa666r]

Yeah but the write-up. :<

What do you mean the write up? ohhhhh the description and all?

 

[Kyrbi0]

Yeah, of course! All the fancy words & details & pictures & organized tables... ahhhh

 

[Riki]

Interesting way to implement the Wildhammer Clan. Very good work!

Spoiler

We definitely need to find a way to add those new races to Ultimate Battle.

 

[Wa666r]

Interesting way to implement the Wildhammer Clan. Very good work!

Spoiler

We definitely need to find a way to add those new races to Ultimate Battle.

Arigothanks!

Lol yeah maybe one day.

 

[MogulKahn]

Interesting way to implement the Wildhammer Clan. Very good work!

Spoiler

We definitely need to find a way to add those new races to Ultimate Battle.

Yes, please

 

[CollectorofStoriesUntold]

Every map you make is a treat. I've only played Wildhammer Clan so far and I am loving the mechanics , i especially love the hero abilities. Coincidently; i just started a design doc for my wildhammer clan map the day before you updated the map. Wildhammer

 

[Wa666r]

Every map you make is a treat. I've only played Wildhammer Clan so far and I am loving the mechanics , i especially love the hero abilities. Coincidently; i just started a design doc for my wildhammer clan map the day before you updated the map. Wildhammer

I'm glad you enjoyed em. I read through your info; some nifty ideas.

 

[MogulKahn]

You have also added Wildhammer clan? Damn, I seriously need to buy original version of the game..

 

[lichao001486]

Mr. Wa666r
I like the custom race map very much. And I found a green icon problem.