Mini mapping contest 11 brainstorming

rulerofiron99 · Jan 28, 2015

Post ideas for the next MMC. I think we should start a few weeks after the results for MMC10 are in.

Edit: ideas so far
Peaceful - Make a map with no combat. E.g. a map about fishing or crafting.
puzzle/exploration/crafting - speaks for itself
Deadline - do quests/riddles before time runs out, bit of survival but with breaks in between. Also it could be some high scores breaking type.
Creation - Literally warp into existence something and make it evolve or anything among those lines.
Capture - Either it be a deadly fish or getting your apple back this can be the idea to capture anything or anyone that was stolen from you, lost or just want so bad~.
Treasure Hunting - Use anything from geological excavating to even raiding your way through temples and shipwrecks to obtain riches and glory.
Thief - Steal stuffs from people requires stealth!
Organization - organize/grow something to make it better until certain goal condition has met (e.g. building (growing) civilization / kingdom / company / industry / anything)

Heinvers · Jan 28, 2015

Well how about a puzzle/exploration type of contest theme? - speaks for itself.

- yeah the puzzle one was already done but it was a long time ago -

crafting

That would also fit into a exploration type theme.

Deadline - do quests/riddles before time runs out, bit of survival but with breaks in between.
Also it could be some high scores breaking type.

Creation - Literally warp into existence something and make it evolve or anything among those lines.

SA Dashie · Feb 1, 2015

Capture - Either it be a deadly fish or getting your apple back this can be the idea to capture anything or anyone that was stolen from you, lost or just want so bad~.

Tickles · Feb 2, 2015

^ All of the ideas mentioned so far sound pretty good, but I think capture sounds the most unique from all of the previous contest themes. Then maybe even people who like to stick to the traditional RTS style of Warcraft can come up with some interesting zone capturing.

Treasure Hunting:
Use anything from geological excavating to even raiding your way through temples and shipwrecks to obtain riches and glory.

Rex. · Feb 3, 2015

All of those mentioned ideas are good

Thief: Steal stuffs from people requires stealth!

Kazeon · Feb 13, 2015

Treasure Hunting - Use anything from geological excavating to even raiding your way through temples and shipwrecks to obtain riches and glory.
Thief - Steal stuffs from people requires stealth!

Those are too specific imo, no clear idea variations.

I suggest

Organization - organize/grow something to make it better until certain goal condition has met (e.g. building (growing) civilization / kingdom / company / industry / anything)

rulerofiron99 · Feb 13, 2015

Dalvengyr said:
Organization - organize/grow something to make it better until certain goal condition has met (e.g. building (growing) civilization / kingdom / company / industry / anything)

I love this idea, might force me to finally get around to making my goblin industry map, complete with auto factories and conveyor belts.

Tickles · Mar 8, 2015

That's a pretty good handful of options already which cover most gameplay styles. Anyone have any other ideas before a poll is made?

Heinvers · Mar 8, 2015

Apparition - Basically it would be like ghost sightings appearing throughout the map. You will be chasing them constantly unless you want a sudden death by 'darkness' (could be called corruption).

Every time you approach one (they'll be moving constantly, faster after you approach them and slower after they've reached a certain distance from you) you start hearing voices, these are getting louder and clearer until you reach the last apparition when everything goes white (white-screen).

You'll discover that you were having a dream through which a demon/devil tried to posses you. He'll die after you wake up.

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Not sure if it was done before.

Thoughts?

rulerofiron99 · Mar 10, 2015

That's much too specific for a contest. It sounds like a well fleshed-out *map* idea.

Poll's up!
Vote for multiple ideas if you want.
Some of the ideas are quite similar, so it should work out alright if we combine themes.
Unless there's a clear winner, I think we should combine the top 2/3.

bowser499 · Mar 12, 2015

Boss fighting would be cool XD

Tal'Rarity · Mar 13, 2015

Everything you have listed there currently is too specific and basic except for Organization which could become a game like those building games.

Kino · Mar 15, 2015

Boss fighting would be cool XD

Done and redone, we dont really need a third boss fight contest.

Everything you have listed there currently is too specific and basic

You are not being imaginative enough.

rulerofiron99 · Mar 20, 2015

I'm keen to start this soon. We just need a deciding vote between treasure hunting and production.

Who's joining? When's a good time to start for everyone?

Does someone want to host this? I'd be happy to host it myself, but I'd also like to participate.

Kino · Mar 21, 2015

I'm keen to start this soon. We just need a deciding vote between treasure hunting and production.

Who's joining? When's a good time to start for everyone?

Treasure hunting is cool and all, but remember its going to result in people submitting dungeon crawl maps.
Even the farming contest had a dungeon crawl entry.

rulerofiron99 · Mar 23, 2015

Perhaps some stricter rules this time to disqualify maps that are completely different from the theme?

Anyway, we still need a tiebreaker for the vote.

LordDz · Mar 23, 2015

Voted.

SA Dashie · Mar 24, 2015

Broke the tie breaker!

Tickles · Mar 24, 2015

It would be good to have a Theme judging category worth a hefty amount of points to drastically drop the scores of anyone who breaks too far away from the theme.

We also had the problem of a final version of a map being updated after the deadline due to being in the map section. There should be a rule that final versions of maps are required to be uploaded to the contest thread.

eubz · Mar 24, 2015

Treasure hunting would be cool.

There should be a rule that final versions of maps are required to be uploaded to the contest thread.

I like this, too.

Cokemonkey11 · Mar 24, 2015

If you do thief I will join in!

rulerofiron99 · Mar 24, 2015

And the brainstorming poll is heating up!

In light of the rules/judging suggestions, here's a mockup of a possible new ruleset:

Originality/Creativity	Does the map offer interesting and new ideas, mechanics or other aspects?	10
Theme	How well does the map follow the chosen theme?	30
Aesthetics	Is the map pleasing to look at? Are models and textures chosen well to fit together? Includes terrain, imports chosen, custom art made for the map, visual design, etc.	20
Gameplay	Is it fun or engaging? Includes design of abilities, characters, balance, replayability (if applicable), and storyline for story-driven maps.	20
Triggers/Code/Performance	How well is the map coded? Includes errors, bugs, performance issues.	10
Polish	General polish all-round the map. e.g. abilities have hotkeys, all units have icons, custom interface changes have a custom tooltip.	10

Please comment, suggest changes, criticise or support if you think it's good.

I feel the previous judging criteria had a great deal of overlap, so some entries would be penalised for the same design decisions or faults in more than on category. It's become very common for well-polished maps to score highly, since scoring for polish was justifiable in almost all of the judging criteria.

Kazeon · Mar 24, 2015

Compare these two themes:

Map Size Limited vs Treasure Hunting

See the difference?

rulerofiron99 · Mar 30, 2015

The theme mark would be based on how well the map embodies the contest's theme. I agree it's a little tricky for something as vague as Map Size Limited, but a theme like Treasure Hunting is specific enough for it to matter.

Much like several other judging criteria, it's all up to the judge's opinion.

Anyway, looks like it's going to be Treasure Hunting. I'll make the thread in a week or so, with the intention to start the contest on the first of May. Please post if you're happy with that date or if not, suggest another. Some more opinions on the suggested judging criteria would be great also.

SA Dashie · Mar 30, 2015

I like the idea of the months notice

Prepare for a battle me hearties for a great contest

eubz · Mar 31, 2015

Please, why May? I would love to join or just judge, whichever.

Tickles · Mar 31, 2015

It might as well be started as soon as possible. If everyone knows what the theme is going to be, what's to stop them from starting a month ahead of time?

Kazeon · Mar 31, 2015

rulerofiron99 said:
The theme mark would be based on how well the map embodies the contest's theme. I agree it's a little tricky for something as vague as Map Size Limited, but a theme like Treasure Hunting is specific enough for it to matter.

Much like several other judging criteria, it's all up to the judge's opinion.

Anyway, looks like it's going to be Treasure Hunting. I'll make the thread in a week or so, with the intention to start the contest on the first of May. Please post if you're happy with that date or if not, suggest another. Some more opinions on the suggested judging criteria would be great also.

Let's see if there is going to be good gameplay variation other than collecting chests or boxes.

eubz · Mar 31, 2015

Tickles said:
It might as well be started as soon as possible. If everyone knows what the theme is going to be, what's to stop them from starting a month ahead of time?

Ya, right. We should start this ASAP.

rulerofiron99 · Mar 31, 2015

Alright, ASAP it is.

I'll create the thread in a few days.

EDIT: Thread is up http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...mini-mapping-contest-11-treasure-hunt-264189/

Hoping to get started on Friday.

Mini mapping contest 11 brainstorming

Which idea do you want to make?

Peaceful

Exploration/Crafting

Deadline/Puzzle

Creation

Capture

Treasure Hunting

Thief

Organization/Prodution

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