Race Building Contest #3 - Mini Melee Race

[67chrome]

Race Building Contest
Mini Melee Race

Contest Rules And Conditions

• • No submission may violate any of the site rules.
  • If a submission does not follow the map submission rules the creator will be disqualified.
  • All submissions must follow the current theme. If any model does not fit, a moderator will tell you as soon as possible as to avoid confusion.
  • Your submission must be posted before the deadline. The post containing your final submission must also contain the following:
    • Several screenshots of race in action.
    • The file in the appropriate format.
  • You must show at least one unfinished preview of your submission, before the deadline, as proof that it’s yours.
  • Your submission may not be started before the official launch of the contest.
  • Judges and/or hosts may not participate.
  • Your final submission must be bug free enough to test and play.
  • Teamwork is not allowed.
    • Finding testers to help you with your submission is not considered teamwork.
  • Imports may be used in the map, however they must all be credited.
  • The features that may be edited are:
    • Gameplay constants
    • Game interface
    • Object editor
    • Trigger editor
  • The map's terrain may not be edited. The current four melee races may not be edited.
  • Participants must download the (to be provided) template map, edit it and then resubmit it as their entry.
  • The resulting map may not exceed 2MB in size.
• The race must have a unit or building that fits each of these functions:
  • Food Supply
  • Town Hall
  • Defensive Structure
  • Hero Altar
• The race may not have more than 10 standard units.
• The race may not have more than 1 hero.
• The race may not have more than 8 buildings.
• The race may not have more than 3 types of summoned units and/or wards.
• The town hall may only have 1 tier.
• The race may not have more than 20 upgrades.
  
  * Units with alternate forms count as only 1 unit. (Druid of the Claw -> Bear form)
  * Units/building upgraded to gain additional bonuses count as 1 unit. (Watch Tower -> Scout Tower
  * Summoned units and wards that are upgraded through their summoning spell count as 1 summoned unit (spirit wolf -> shadow wolf -> dire wolf)
  * 1 building can fulfill multiple roles (Nerubian Ziggurat is both a food supply and defensive structure)
  * The defensive structure must be a building, though the other building jobs may be fulfilled by units. (Zerg Overlord -> Food Supply)
  * Dummy units do not count towards the unit total.
  * Just because there is a limit to the number of things the race may have does not mean you should fill the maximum of everything, especially upgrades. The Naga only have 7 standard units, 1 hero, 1 summoned unit, 6 buildings, and 6 upgrades. In several cases, less can lead to a cleaner and better submission
  

Contest Prizes And Winnings

First Place: 40 reputation points and a special award icon Second Place: 20 reputation points Third Place: 10 reputation points

Things to consider for making your submission stand out in a positive way.

Icon Placement	Are the icons arranged logically? Do they correspond to their utility? Do icon borders match their function?
Spelling and grammar	Are tooltips and names spelled correctly? Does written information make sense?
Overall Balance and Gameplay	Are the units balanced enough to offer an enjoyable experience? Are some units more overpowered than they should be?
Resource Economy	Do imported Models, Icons, Skins, Triggers, and Spells complement and fit in well with the race? Were they used to the best of their abilities?
Gestalt	How well does everything work together?

• 100 % of the winner shall be determined by the results of a public poll. Any entry that has attempted to manipulate and skew the pole results will be disqualified.

Contestants


If you would like to enter the contest simply make a post in this thread, stating the information about your entry.

Contestant Name	Entry Name
Alagremm	Exiled Ones
Aspard	Goblins
chilla_killa	Fire
Dentothor	Demon
Ghost765	Imperial Regiment
Gyrosphinx	FIST OF TYRRANY
HailFireer	Gnolls
Hevenblood	Divine Humans
Jughead	Blackrock Orcs
Kercyn	The Hivers
Mage_Goo	Harpy/Bird
Martin Barbov	Nerubians
Master of Eagles	Adempet
Mr.Goblin	Tuskarr
Ordworse	Ice Troll
Pharaoh_	Underworld Ghosts
pippo	Trolls
Saia_Djinn	magnatauren
scorpion182	Goblin Pirates
Sean_D-real	Gargantuan Arthropoda
supertoinkz	MechElves
The D3ath	Underworld Legion
The-Rave	swarm race
VeljkoM	Sea Legion or Follower of Leviathan
Wazzz	Forest Trolls
WhitePhoenix	Forgotten Ones/Faceless/Unbroken
Wraithling	Ghosts
Xiliger	Skeletons
xxdingo93xx	Stormseeker
X-OMG-X	Hell
Yayoi	Demon Night Elves
Zpider	Forest Trolls

Contest Dates And Deadline

• The contest shall begin on October 05, 2009 and conclude on [rainbow]Novemebr 09, 2009 GMT
  Time[/rainbow] (GMT)

The contest is pattered primarily off of the non-melee races that blizzard introduced; the Naga, Blood Elves and Draenei that are accessible in the campaigns (mostly after the naga). The goal of the contest is to create 1 new race that can battle against the existing four melee races, but does not have the same amount of units and buildings, being more of a limited race in terms of unit count. The idea for this contest is admittedly from the WC3 campaigns race building competition, which is largely patterned the same way. With this competition skins, icons, models, spells, and triggers could be implemented in to one collective project, though all are not required to pull it off. It is more of an exercise in using existing resources and the resources that modders specialize in using, giving the freedom to use creative energy to make something playable with the restraints to keep it under control and achievable in a month's time frame.

This contest is by no means a continuation of the contest at WC3campaigns, rather the third incarnation of a contest that has not seen any action at this site for a very long time. This contest was also created without asking permission from the folks at WC3campaings to use their Naga-style race building contest idea, witch I failed to notice as being an original and unique idea until it was brought to my attention (my bad there). Considering the numbers and rules used on this contest asking for permission should have been a priority, but my bad again. Anyways, the contest will go on.

Special thanks to Sean_D-real for the race selection triggers, ask him if you need any help with it

 

[Sean_D-real]

ugh i should prolly make a quick tutorial for how to use the race selection trigger
My Entry Race: Gargantuan Arthropoda
^(AKA Giant Bugs)
1 questions. where should we put credits for custom models, etc?

 

[Dentothor]

Hell yes!!!! First to enter!!!!

DEMON RACE FTW!!!

 

[The Panda]

Seems quite nice Chrome, so you basicly just make another whole race, for example human, nightelf, undead. Like that? and then put it into a map for you too judge?

 

[Ghost765]

sweet! ok, i scrapped my original idea of a Chaos style race, and went for a more steampunkish warhammer inspired human race.

 

[Dentothor]

100% of a poll? wow. its all up to the people. >

 

[The Panda]

Im gonna join and will be making a panda race!

 

[Sean_D-real]

wow its poll???? people are just gonna get friends to vote *popularity contest*..

 

[Dentothor]

wow its poll???? people are just gonna get friends to vote *popularity contest*..

the rules state that if any rigging by making friends vote for you is found out, you will be immidiatly DQ'd and possibly neg repped.

So i wouldn't try it.

 

[Sean_D-real]

the rules state that if any rigging by making friends vote for you is found out, you will be immidiatly DQ'd and possibly neg repped.

So i wouldn't try it.

not saying i would try to get my friends to vote just saying id rather have real unbias judges.

 

[Ghost765]

well, its not just friends voting for you, its overall popularity in the hive. lets say a Mod created a race, and a new comer created a race, odds are the Mod will get a few votes for just being a mod.

 

[Sean_D-real]

well, its not just friends voting for you, its overall popularity in the hive. lets say a Mod created a race, and a new comer created a race, odds are the Mod will get a few votes for just being a mod.

amen.

 

[Dentothor]

then avryone shall vote for me cuz i am loved a lot

Just cuz im Dentothor

 

[Ghost765]

never heard of you until this competition. anyways, i have faith that people will vote on the content and not the creator.

 

[Dentothor]

never heard of you until this competition. anyways, i have faith that people will vote on the content and not the creator.

you obviously dont hang around the art section then...

but still yes they must be voted on quality and not the creator.

 

[The Panda]

So it chould be an equal battle and not uneven in any way.

 

[WhitePhoenix]

Whelp, i'll be doing the Forgotten Ones/Faceless/Unbroken.

If you have no idea how to use the GUI, here you go:

• Buttons
  • Events
    • Dialog - A dialog button is clicked for Custom_Or_Not
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Clicked dialog button) Equal to Custom_Buttons[1]
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- Replace Units here. --------
        • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units owned by (Triggering player)) and do (Actions)
          • Loop - Actions
            • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
              • If - Conditions
                • ((Picked unit) is A town-hall-type unit) Equal to True
              • Then - Actions
                • Unit - Replace (Picked unit) with a Town Hall using The new unit's default life and mana
              • Else - Actions
                • Unit - Replace (Picked unit) with a Mur'gul Slave using The new unit's default life and mana
            • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
              • If - Conditions
                • (Race of (Triggering player)) Equal to Undead
              • Then - Actions
                • Unit - Create 1 Peasant for (Triggering player) at ((Triggering player) start location) facing Default building facing degrees
              • Else - Actions
        • Set tally = (tally + 1)
      • Else - Actions
        • Set tally = (tally + 1)
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AmntOfPlayers Equal to tally
      • Then - Actions
        • Countdown Timer - Destroy (Last created timer window)
        • Trigger - Turn off Timer <gen>
      • Else - Actions

Below the -- Replace Units Here -- is the If where you replace your town hall and your peon units. There is an additional check if the player uses the undead race, and creates a peasent for that player if he does use it. This can be edited as you wish, removed or what have you, hopefully you just understand how to use it now.

Also, for whatever reason the Naga Town Hall isn't working and brings up a countdown timer telling you to make a Town Hall, so obviously its not registering correctly, just don't use it (unless you can fix it of course).

 

[Ghost765]

if all else goes wrong, we could just use the Custom Race System on wc3c.

 

[Deleted member 177737]

Entry Name: Demon Night Elves or something.
Contestant Name: Yayoi
(Just 2 enter didnt start race yet)

 

[The D3ath]

WOah it finally got hosted, nice one month, since i gotta do some skinning (since it hasnt skin rulez, it will be moslty recolouring

Race: Underworld Legion
Class: Vile Tormentors,Queens of Suffering, Red Demons, Slaves
Contestant Name: The D3ath

every one has wings! even the wings could differ
Bye!

 

[67chrome]

ugh i should prolly make a quick tutorial for how to use the race selection trigger
My Entry Race: Gargantuan Arthropoda
^(AKA Giant Bugs)
1 questions. where should we put credits for custom models, etc?

Arthropods are awesome, don't think it would apply to the dune worm though :O

as for the credits, I've seen plenty of ways to put them in the map. One of the most common ways I've seen for a contest like this is to display a timed message at the games start that lists the credits. You could also put them in the map description (if it has enough room), create a quest to show them, etc.


As for voting, I'm not sure how I'm going to implement it. I really like the system over at WC3C, were each voter votes on each submission, ranking them according to one another on how awesome they thought the races were, as well as giving description to what they liked/disliked about the race. The scores are then averaged out and the winner is determined.
I'm not sure what sort of voting system I'll be able to get for this contest, but I'd rather everyone talked about why thy voted they way they did rather than casting a vote for their single favorite entry, which seems to be the system most of the negative feedback about a 100% vote is critiquing.

 

[WhitePhoenix]

Looks like you need to give us the ability to edit one of the four main Town Halls.

Who else can't get a custom or even Naga town hall to work without getting the reveal countdown timer.

 

[The Panda]

I have a question. Do you have to use triggers? because im not good with triggers at all.

 

[Deleted member 177737]

Looks like you need to give us the ability to edit one of the four main Town Halls.

Who else can't get a custom or even Naga town hall to work without getting the reveal countdown timer.

Same problem here

 

[Ghost765]

No. you dont HAVE to use triggers. The only place where u will absolutely have to is the Custom race picking.

@whitephoenix - thats the point...ur supposed to create a custom town hall, not edit the naga one.

edit: lets just use the Custom Race system from wc3c. its fairly simple.

 

[WhitePhoenix]

Chrome, either we are able to edit a main town hall, or we just deal with the custom race players becoming visible, or we delete the Victory/Defeat trigger in Melee Initialization.

@Ghost, you're not understanding the problem.

 

[The D3ath]

wot, since i just noticed the small quantity of units im changing the race

Race: Underworld Legion
Class: Queens of pain,succubus anything related to it (now its just succubus not red demons or else)

BYe =)

im having problems on buildings, i need dark blue ones, i cant find, i think ill use just undead basic buildings but that would affect review =(

 

[67chrome]

There are ways to set up custom victory defeat triggers so that you don't get the obnoxious build a town hall timer display window, ways which are slightly beyond my GUI abilities. Of course, this race will mostly be played vs. computer players that know were you are anyways so it isn't much of an issue, at least I wouldn't penalize you for it when voting for your race.

My hope with this contest is that those of you who are good at triggering can help everyone out with some systems that will eliminate things such as the problems listed above.

If anyone uses triggers supplied by someone in this contest be sure to credit them in your map as well

 

[The D3ath]

Crap i have the resources, now i start recoloring, icon making, >.< most dont have icons, so i will be busy on that, but some portrait icons will do.

Bye

 

[Ghost765]

Heres a little sneak-peak.
Looked up some bunker triggers, created a few of my own, used a recent model edit of mine (cannon tower on communist_orc's pillbox) and voila:

 

[supertoinkz]

hmmm, i think Goblins suck :<
I might change my race to the almighty trees

 

[Kwah]

I'm making notes to actually do something, but the future is cloudy.

 

[Ghost765]

i made notes before the contest D:

 

[Deleted member 177737]

I didnt make notes xP

 

[WhitePhoenix]

Add this code to the map in order to make a quick fix for the victory/defeat. Delete the normal melee init victory/defeat (Not the entire trigger, just the one that controls victory and defeat). Create a Trigger called this exactly: "Victory Defeat" (not including quotations.
and put only this code in there:

function Trig_Victory_Defeat_Conditions takes nothing returns boolean
    return IsUnitType(GetTriggerUnit(), UNIT_TYPE_STRUCTURE) == true
endfunction

function Trig_Victory_Defeat_Actions takes nothing returns nothing
    local player trig = GetOwningPlayer(GetTriggerUnit())
    local player death = GetOwningPlayer(GetDyingUnit())
    local group pg = GetUnitsOfPlayerAll(death)

        if CountUnitsInGroup(pg) <= 0 then
            call CustomDefeatBJ(death, "Defeat!")
        endif
        
        if GetPlayers() <= 1 then
            call CustomVictoryBJ(trig, true, true)
        endif

        call DestroyGroup(pg)

endfunction

//===========================================================================
function InitTrig_Victory_Defeat takes nothing returns nothing
    set gg_trg_Victory_Defeat = CreateTrigger(  )
    call TriggerRegisterAnyUnitEventBJ( gg_trg_Victory_Defeat, EVENT_PLAYER_UNIT_DEATH )
    call TriggerAddCondition( gg_trg_Victory_Defeat, Condition( function Trig_Victory_Defeat_Conditions ) )
    call TriggerAddAction( gg_trg_Victory_Defeat, function Trig_Victory_Defeat_Actions )
endfunction

It removes the reveal completely. If someone else wants to make another that checks for town-hall structures and initiates sight when there aren't any town halls, then feel free, but this'll work for now. Another flaw in this trigger is you have to destroy a building to check for the win condition, it wont be a problem unless you have a plethora of leavers, as well as it doesn't support team-victory.

 

[The-Rave]

I make swarm race!

 

[Wraithling]

I'm joining, and my entry race would be ghosts. Inspired by Aragorn's Ghost Army.

 

[scorpion182]

Im gonna join too

 

[Cookieman]

think i'm gonna join this contest

 

[supertoinkz]

shit, i'll change race again, Kobolds for sure

 

[Deleted member 177737]

Add this code to the map in order to make a quick fix for the victory/defeat. Delete the normal melee init victory/defeat (Not the entire trigger, just the one that controls victory and defeat). Create a Trigger called this exactly: "Victory Defeat" (not including quotations.
and put only this code in there:

function Trig_Victory_Defeat_Conditions takes nothing returns boolean
    return IsUnitType(GetTriggerUnit(), UNIT_TYPE_STRUCTURE) == true
endfunction

function Trig_Victory_Defeat_Actions takes nothing returns nothing
    local player trig = GetOwningPlayer(GetTriggerUnit())
    local player death = GetOwningPlayer(GetDyingUnit())
    local group pg = GetUnitsOfPlayerAll(death)

        if CountUnitsInGroup(pg) <= 0 then
            call CustomDefeatBJ(death, "Defeat!")
        endif
        
        if GetPlayers() <= 1 then
            call CustomVictoryBJ(trig, true, true)
        endif

        call DestroyGroup(pg)

endfunction

//===========================================================================
function InitTrig_Victory_Defeat takes nothing returns nothing
    set gg_trg_Victory_Defeat = CreateTrigger(  )
    call TriggerRegisterAnyUnitEventBJ( gg_trg_Victory_Defeat, EVENT_PLAYER_UNIT_DEATH )
    call TriggerAddCondition( gg_trg_Victory_Defeat, Condition( function Trig_Victory_Defeat_Conditions ) )
    call TriggerAddAction( gg_trg_Victory_Defeat, function Trig_Victory_Defeat_Actions )
endfunction

It removes the reveal completely. If someone else wants to make another that checks for town-hall structures and initiates sight when there aren't any town halls, then feel free, but this'll work for now. Another flaw in this trigger is you have to destroy a building to check for the win condition, it wont be a problem unless you have a plethora of leavers, as well as it doesn't support team-victory.

And if you dont know how to put that stuff in a trigger?

(just tried didnt do anything)

 

[Martin Barbov]

A new techtree contest. I'm definitely in.

Contestant: Martin Barbov
Race Name: To Be Announced - won't be elemental or magic this time. I promise

 

[Ghost765]

http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=105611&highlight=custom+race

i for one will probably be using this.

 

[Kercyn]

I'm in, but I think I'm keeping my race secret

 

[Aspard]

Entry Name	Contestant Name
Mini Melee Race: Goblins	Aspard

Please, list me up

 

[AIagremm]

And I really cant decide what race to choose.
People, help me! I want to make Draenei, Lost Stormreavers, Undead Dwarves or the Forgotten(spectral race). Maybe Alliance Expedition. I really cant decide!

 

[Kercyn]

The Consortium? It's a WoW race of etherals.

 

[AIagremm]

Wha? No, I met help me decide what race to choose out of those.

 

[Kercyn]

I choose the spectral race ^^

 

[AIagremm]

Ok... now Im almost pretty sure what to do.
Draenei, Undead Dwarves or the Forgotten(spectral race).