New Content Discussion [SPOILER]

[Fan_of_Aeroblyctos]

I already did the missions several times in hard difficulty. Just re-did the last two, using a different strat. Guess I'll do that again and again ^^

 

[Plantpaladin]

Great to hear from you again! I prefer a bigger piece of lore.
My guess for next one is Age of Wonders 4. Did play all of AoW3 multiple times and like it.

 

[DD Mikasa]

CALLED IT WE PLAYING THE HOLY BASTION BOIS!!!!!!!!!

LETS FOOKIN GOOOOOOOO

 

[Navy45]

Damn... and three years after the second Void war. I wonder how his search for the grail was going. For now, we only know the movements of the big nations after the Void war (Cold war in zyainor and kerrel, isolationism for dwarves... etc) but we're pretty clueless on the fate of the unaffiliated characters like Praxeus, the golden guard remnants, Aedale...

 

[trycex]

That's sounds more like an adventure and less big battles, probably with this we can explore and now more about Arkain in a smaller scale.

 

[Shar Dundred]

The scale will differ from what you have seen in Warcraft 3, yes, but there is no need to worry, it will not become miniscule by any means.

I do want to use the new environment to its fullest advantage however.

 

[Navy45]

The scale will differ from what you have seen in Warcraft 3, yes, but there is no need to worry, it will not become miniscule by any means.

I do want to use the new environment to its fullest advantage however.

Well, considering that, according to the tales of arkain, the second imperial invasion doesn't happen until 17 years have passed at least, the change of scale is quite appropriate. Though it would be funny to just still have enormously large battles while the various rulers insist the war is over ^^

 

[nchp1903]

Whatever new platforms that are used for new Arkain's gameplay, I sure hope they will have enough models accomodate the growing roster, with new Dominion and Zyainor units, and even Marin's mechanized angelics if possible.

 

[DD Mikasa]

I guess if the new platform still follows the rts type gameplay, we might expect a Rexxar to tame a land (kinda-ish) type of gameplay. When its more about the micro and the buddies we make along the way, than grand scale battlefields.

 

[Shar Dundred]

I am not going to say too much for now but

Spoiler

the new platform is a strategy and role playing game mix

 

[DD Mikasa]

I love to stoke the flames of discussion among my peers and since most of them havent been that much active lately in here...What if we get a banner lord type-ish platform...It would fit the settings.

What do the rest of you all think?

 

[Navy45]

I love to stoke the flames of discussion among my peers and since most of them havent been that much active lately in here...What if we get a banner lord type-ish platform...It would fit the settings.

What do the rest of you all think?

God I would love that.

A spellforce-like engine would also fit the bill.

 

[Mvicio]

Both options would be really cool.

It would be a surprise if there was a brand new game made just for arkain.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Some interesting options here indeed

 

[Mvicio]

So Shar is getting a new format AND night elves (even if there is only the reporter) at once.

Quite marvelous!

 

[DD Mikasa]

Hehehehhe, i would say after having so many secondary characters that i rooted for being killed left and right getting the official confirmation that The Bastion is gonna be the main dude of the new setting does put a smile on my face, RIP Lera the Huntress you were taken away from us to soon!

 

[Shar Dundred]

Want me to add more characters to the pile of corpses?

 

[Mvicio]

Want me to add more characters to the pile of corpses?

Sure. Start with Grella

 

[Shar Dundred]

Grella was not a name I expected to read as first suggestion, not gonna lie.

 

[Jayborino]

it's just 7 Logan clones

 

[Navy45]

Damn, now that's an interesting company :

• Darkan Hammerfall : So an exiled dwarf ? I wonder what made him leave. Did he disagree with the decision to cut off all contacts between the dwarves and the humans after the second void war or was it before that ?
• Calere : Amusingly, she seems to share some traits with the late Sir Bubblerino. At least, I believe he was a bard before becoming a Paladin. However, she seems to be more of a mage. I would believe her to be a surviving member of one of the many lost Orders in the war, but she apparently has never attended a magic academy of the Kingdoms. Maybe an imperial, or even a runaway demon slave, who knows ?
• Morkin : I wonder whose side he fought for in the war. He settled near Kerrel and Zyainor, so it seems unlikely he was among the regiments and I doubt there were many golden guard survivors in the area, which leaves either the Royal armies or the Ironfist. Depending on which, his "interest" in Boranel's goals might not be so innocent.
• Grazaz : Damn, from Zyainor to Salria, Boranel's in for one hell of a journey. This Grazaz must be quite the soldier for surviving being both in the armies battling the dominion and joining them.
• Orkar : So an old Ironthunder veteran. Makes me wonder if Boranel's gonna have trouble with Inara. If either his quest, or his identity is revealed at any point, Zyainor will be very interested.
• Nysara : Obviously, she's going to stay in the background. I wonder what her interests are in Boranel's quest. Also makes me wonder if either of them will come into contact with the remnants of the golden guard. Though maybe Valerie would be able to pierce Nysara's disguise.

 

[Kaptain_MekaFather]

Ok, I've finished the whole True Story, that was amazing, now I'm planning to do the Books, just to see the differences (I've played the human one until Genethas VS Gardon, I was surprised to see Zoia in the True Story, since she wasn't the Human Book so far).
Now I have to read the stories too!
So, I'm not sure about it, but does Inara is Zoia's pet? I mean, the Wolf Regiment broke her mind, and Zoia said that her "toy" would do ANYTHING for her, and was in the upper class of the Dominion. But, Inara didn't seemed to act in Zoia's favour. I mean, she had multiple occasions to betray Amari and everyone else, and every murder she commit seemed to be done on her own behalf, not some way to inder the Dominion.
It's cool to see the focus on our Bastion boi for the next adventure.

 

[Navy45]

Ok, I've finished the whole True Story, that was amazing, now I'm planning to do the Books, just to see the differences (I've played the human one until Genethas VS Gardon, I was surprised to see Zoia in the True Story, since she wasn't the Human Book so far).
Now I have to read the stories too!
So, I'm not sure about it, but does Inara is Zoia's pet? I mean, the Wolf Regiment broke her mind, and Zoia said that her "toy" would do ANYTHING for her, and was in the upper class of the Dominion. But, Inara didn't seemed to act in Zoia's favour. I mean, she had multiple occasions to betray Amari and everyone else, and every murder she commit seemed to be done on her own behalf, not some way to inder the Dominion.
It's cool to see the focus on our Bastion boi for the next adventure.

Congrats on finishing the True Story ! Hope you have fun exploring the choices of the books.

About your question, at this point, Inara is almost certainly Zoia's spy (well at least I don't see another candidate). Zoia most likely didn't order her to act against Amari because it would squander her value. Sure, she could do a bit of damage before going down, but having her as a trusted ally of Amari is much more beneficial in the long run. It means Zoia can get all the information she could ever want and also that Inara pretty much has free rein to accumulate more power right under Amari's nose (like she did by gathering the remnants of the Darkmind, the Ironthunder and most of the other orc clans). We don't know how exactly Inara got them to obey her, but it's quite possible that, if there ever was conflict, they'd follow Inara against the dominion, which Amari doesn't fear because Inara never gave her a reason to distrust her.

 

[Jayborino]

Zoia mentions in the epilogue that she was going to trigger a betrayal during Risen Resistance, but the Undead arriving screwed up her plans and she backed down. I suppose there is a tiny, bizarre chance it could somehow be Vanessa, but Zoia mentions how her spy enjoys assassinating people so it seems like there is no way it's not Inara.

I'm interested to learn more about how Zoia controls her and if that is an avenue for an Inara subplot to try to deprogram herself, or if she'll always be a double agent destined to destabilize things. Thinking super long term, a neat idea would be Inara deposing Amari and then Amari having a gritty revenge story. Arkain always likes a good revenge story, though I guess she already got hers starting from Hunt for Riches.

 

[Kaptain_MekaFather]

Finally finished the first book of the 3 factions so far.

I helped Gardon with Salana, managed to not kill her apprentice during the Elven demonic revolt, didn't attacked the Golden Guard hidden troops, AND PRESERVED AEDALE FROM CORRUPTION (saving Salomar by extension), I still helped Gardon with Blen, wasn't very fond of helping Genethas knowing the truth about him. So, there is A LOT of human characters missing, like Zoia, adding them in the true story was a good idea.

I'm amazed by Amari's absence in the first Orc book, or the fact that's more of the choices seems to revolve around NOT bonking humans. So, 'cause I like Vanessa, I did my best to reduce humans destruction. I'm amazed by the fact that Sas' was less a douchebag and a coward in this first book than in the True Story. I'm intrigued by the feral Orcs, or the fact there was Moghtar on the Orc Islands.

Undead book... There's less choices, but I guess it's because of Aridon's global control of the situation.

Here comes the 2nd book, I'll start with the Human one. Here goes the "Golden Guard is a bunch of arrogant assholes". Let's hope Aedale and Blen won't end up in prison this time since I did my best to not giving reasons to emprison them.

 

[Banaconaconut]

There's more Arkain?! leeetttsss gooooo

 

[Apprentice Darkmoon]

Hmm, there's more GG family story this time since "lost family members" is mentioning. This archduke has no idea what it means to set foot on Arkain...
I wonder what Gardon's reaction might be to seeing more family coming from across the sea, IF he or his lackeys know of their presence when they disembark. Will they find the Highlord's children and Marin?
If they found them, and Marin finished to research Valerie's angelic potential, the GG would have a weapon against Gardon's dark kingdom. Only time will tell.

 

[Navy45]

Hmm, there's more GG family story this time since "lost family members" is mentioning. This archduke has no idea what it means to set foot on Arkain...
I wonder what Gardon's reaction might be to seeing more family coming from across the sea, IF he or his lackeys know of their presence when they disembark. Will they find the Highlord's children and Marin?
If they found them, and Marin finished to research Valerie's angelic potential, the GG would have a weapon against Gardon's dark kingdom. Only time will tell.

I mean... couldn't it be Redfist family business ? While Volarian's first wife was from the Kingdoms, he was a noble of Rodan. Especially since they are an archduke, while the Redfist we know was a duke (though Van Durce probably had something similar in the tens of titles he had).
Also, this Archduke apparently chose to leave before the imperial court decided what to do with Arkain, while we know Catherine, Van Durce's remaining daughter, travelled with the official imperial punitive expedition.

The conversation also seems to imply they really have no idea what happened to the family members they talk about, whereas the Golden Guard's fate must be quite widely known (though the remnants' whereabouts aren't). Meanwhile, the Redfist children's fates are more private. Aedale's corruption and escape must not have been public knowledge (and what happened after that is only known by Ornasion). Cora and Orie's fates are unknown to any human, and Vanessa's ancestry was never revealed to the Dominion (if the Archduke even knows of her existence to begin with)

One thing that I wonder is... who is this Archduke ? Is he the father of Volarian ? Wouldn't that make him extremely old to lead such an expedition ?

 

[gaurdian of the flame]

I mean... couldn't it be Redfist family business ? While Volarian's first wife was from the Kingdoms, he was a noble of Rodan. Especially since they are an archduke, while the Redfist we know was a duke (though Van Durce probably had something similar in the tens of titles he had).
Also, this Archduke apparently chose to leave before the imperial court decided what to do with Arkain, while we know Catherine, Van Durce's remaining daughter, travelled with the official imperial punitive expedition.

The conversation also seems to imply they really have no idea what happened to the family members they talk about, whereas the Golden Guard's fate must be quite widely known (though the remnants' whereabouts aren't). Meanwhile, the Redfist children's fates are more private. Aedale's corruption and escape must not have been public knowledge (and what happened after that is only known by Ornasion). Cora and Orie's fates are unknown to any human, and Vanessa's ancestry was never revealed to the Dominion (if the Archduke even knows of her existence to begin with)

One thing that I wonder is... who is this Archduke ? Is he the father of Volarian ? Wouldn't that make him extremely old to lead such an expedition ?

maybe the archduke is a brother a of volarian?

 

[Navy45]

maybe the archduke is a brother a of volarian?

I thought about it too, but his whole spiel about letting one's children go free, while still treasuring them and wanting to protect them would feel a bit weird if he's got no direct filiation in the matter.

Also, I read the story again and the soldier says that "his other children" wish to come with him. So no matter who it is, one of the people involved is his son or daughter.

Based on that, I wanted to make a list of the imperials that died, disappeared or ended up in weird circumstances during the second void war and see who fits the criteria :

• Blen Greymoore : his father (if he's alive) wouldn't have the ressources to put such an expedition together, even if he became a noble with his son. (And I doubt Zoia's family cares much about him)
• Dobric Berengar : Seems too old. He trained Blen, Selior and Fergon. His father is probably dead.
• Van Durce : Same thing. He's the emperor's uncle, that would imply the emperor's great uncle is still alive and kicking.
• Genethas : Same.
• Kenos Harron : Since he's most likely immortal, I doubt he still has family.
• Sir Lerrig : The tale mentions several family members "gone missing" in Arkain. Technically, Lerrig married into Van Durce's family, but I'm not sure it qualifies.
• Lord Marin : Family completely unknown.
• Merlon Seabright : Not even sure if he's imperial or royal. Still, considering his parenting skills, I doubt this archduke is his father.
• Commander Daric : Not sure if he's imperial or royal. But his family isn't nobility either way.
• Ramerius Prideblade : His father is retired but not technically impossible. Still unlikely (and no idea who else could be of his family)
• Selior : Father dead.
• Sir Praxeus : Ancestry unknown. To hang out with Gardon and Aveen, he must have been of relatively high birth. He also seems relatively young, enough that his father could still be alive. But we now nothing of family members of him who would have gone missing in Arkain.
• Aveen Elvir : Actually quite possible. She's a distant relative to the emperor, meaning that the Van Durce and Gardon are technically her family. We don't know her parents, but her mother forbid her from hanging out with Gardon so they must be of some status (the Archduke's spiell about letting one's children go and live their own life also seems quite fitting for Aveen who seemed to seek that in the Falcon Regiment)
• Duke Volrarian Redfist : We aren't sure of his age... if he was extremely young in his first marriage, that seems technically possible, if dubious, for his father to be alive. And plenty of his family did go missing in Arkain. Still, his character sheet mentions him being of lower nobility, with him eventually becoming duke after his first wife died. So it seems unlikely that his father would be an archduke.

Overall, I find myself doubting more and more my initial hunch for Redfist while Aveen fit the bill way more than I expected.
Though I am basing my asumptions on the idea that a) The archduke is a character's father and not just in their family and b) The other family members gone missing are known to us.

 

[gaurdian of the flame]

I thought about it too, but his whole spiel about letting one's children go free, while still treasuring them and wanting to protect them would feel a bit weird if he's got no direct filiation in the matter.

Also, I read the story again and the soldier says that "his other children" wish to come with him. So no matter who it is, one of the people involved is his son or daughter.

Based on that, I wanted to make a list of the imperials that died, disappeared or ended up in weird circumstances during the second void war and see who fits the criteria :

• Blen Greymoore : his father (if he's alive) wouldn't have the ressources to put such an expedition together, even if he became a noble with his son. (And I doubt Zoia's family cares much about him)
• Dobric Berengar : Seems too old. He trained Blen, Selior and Fergon. His father is probably dead.
• Van Durce : Same thing. He's the emperor's uncle, that would imply the emperor's great uncle is still alive and kicking.
• Genethas : Same.
• Kenos Harron : Since he's most likely immortal, I doubt he still has family.
• Sir Lerrig : The tale mentions several family members "gone missing" in Arkain. Technically, Lerrig married into Van Durce's family, but I'm not sure it qualifies.
• Lord Marin : Family completely unknown.
• Merlon Seabright : Not even sure if he's imperial or royal. Still, considering his parenting skills, I doubt this archduke is his father.
• Commander Daric : Not sure if he's imperial or royal. But his family isn't nobility either way.
• Ramerius Prideblade : His father is retired but not technically impossible. Still unlikely (and no idea who else could be of his family)
• Selior : Father dead.
• Sir Praxeus : Ancestry unknown. To hang out with Gardon and Aveen, he must have been of relatively high birth. He also seems relatively young, enough that his father could still be alive. But we now nothing of family members of him who would have gone missing in Arkain.
• Aveen Elvir : Actually quite possible. She's a distant relative to the emperor, meaning that the Van Durce and Gardon are technically her family. We don't know her parents, but her mother forbid her from hanging out with Gardon so they must be of some status (the Archduke's spiell about letting one's children go and live their own life also seems quite fitting for Aveen who seemed to seek that in the Falcon Regiment)
• Duke Volrarian Redfist : We aren't sure of his age... if he was extremely young in his first marriage, that seems technically possible, if dubious, for his father to be alive. And plenty of his family did go missing in Arkain. Still, his character sheet mentions him being of lower nobility, with him eventually becoming duke after his first wife died. So it seems unlikely that his father would be an archduke.

Overall, I find myself doubting more and more my initial hunch for Redfist while Aveen fit the bill way more than I expected.
Though I am basing my asumptions on the idea that a) The archduke is a character's father and not just in their family and b) The other family members gone missing are known to us.

i agree that aveen is the highest possiblity here but if the archduke was aveen father then he might be van durce brother as well since aveen is mostly an imperial family member and as much as we know van durce was one of seven uncles to the emperor if i remember and this possiblity is like praxeus possiblity is praxesus possiblity is a bit weaker

on the other hand the archduke might be a father to a character that didn t get much attention like commander tessia who was mostly cleavehand second in command