Item Techtree Requirements not Working {for neutral shops}

[1)ark_NiTe]

Hey all, I'm attempting to create items that cannot be bought by the Death Knight in Against the Darkness. I previously have relied on triggers to remove the item when bought from the knight, but this depletes the item reserves in the shop.

So I decided to try to make the items require a dummy unit that the person who is Death Knight would not have. However the items can still be bought without the required unit.

How can I make item techtree requirements work properly, how they do with player shops in normal wc3. I am working with a passive shop.

 

[Dr Super Good]

In normal WC3 they work for whoever owns the shop. Basically, if the owner of the shop has the requirements the items is buyable. Not whoever trys to buy the item, but the owner of the shop decides which items can be purchasable.

I have heard that you can replensih items via triggers, I can advise you give it a try (adjust the ammount of item in stock via triggers).

 

[1)ark_NiTe]

I thought that might be the issue, so I used the Arcane Vault and replaced the items with items used in WC3, and made it owned by Player 1.

I could still by all the items without a requirement.

 

[Trillium]

maybe simply make a BIG penalty/punishment for a DK who dares buy the item? =))

 

[Dr Super Good]

In that case he should just make the item be dropped and unkillable, even if the gold is refunded. That way the hunters get a huge advatnage for his mistake. Remember to make it clear if you adopt that method that it can not be used by DK.

 

[1)ark_NiTe]

I already have a similar system guys, which I mentioned in the first post.

At the moment there are items that the Death Knight cannot buy, and the DK knows this because he can only buy items from neutral shops that say "DK Approved". The item is NOT refunded and is removed.

I don't like the idea of making items unkillable because that takes away a part of the game if a unit drops an item to acquire another you can snipe and kill the one they dropped. I don't like refunding the knight because then he'll keep depleting the item stock.

There has to be a way to make items follow a Techtree requirement the way that they do in normal WC3 play. Even if I could make it happen with player owned shops I could get around this by making the shops invisible and making the hero automatically select the shop as it comes in range of or selects the dummy shop.

But I need to find the way to make items obey techtree requirements :\

 

[Teldrassil]

Hey not sure if you need help here, but I've been trying to get the requirements to work for a neutral shop and I found some things out...

1. In normal WC3 they work for whoever owns the shop. Basically, if the owner of the shop has the requirements the items is buyable. Not whoever trys to buy the item, but the owner of the shop decides which items can be purchasable. (Dr Super Good) That is entirely correct.

2. Item requirements do not work for any items in the "Items Sold" field in the object editor, you must place them in the "Items Made" field instead

3. I'm fairly certain the shop must also have the "Shop Sharing" ability

Basically, in order to get this to work, use your copy + paste idea of the Arcane Vault, make sure it has shop sharing, set up the requirements on your items, place them in the "Items Made" field, and make this shop on map owned by the death knight. This should work, not 100% sure though.

 

[1)ark_NiTe]

Thanks. I'll try to work with this in future versions. You helped a lot