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Background: I have been the editor of Custom Hero Arena (pretty popular US-East map) for a year or so now, and I have decided to remake the whole thing. The current public edit of the game is being hosted ~20X more than the original edit was a year ago, so I know I've made some good progress. My next goal is to remake the entire game from a blank map, and bring it from hovering around top 14-16 hosted, and keep it in the top 3-4.
Reasoning: Slayerdragon created this map ~5 years ago. He quit editing because he lost his unprotected copy. Labmonkey123 got permission from him to deprotect it, and work on it ~2 years ago. Labmonkey then became too busy also, and passed the map on to me. Due to the map being deprotected, then lab working on it, then me working on it (before I really knew anything about editing) the scripting is just.. awful. Painfully awful. All of you would vomit if you saw it; it is that bad. It has gotten to the point that as the game currently is; there isnt much I can do without rebuilding the whole thing, that wont cause errors.
Testing: The current CHA edit out has ~2000 hours of testing invested in it. I have about 30 people on my testers list, and we test for about 2 months before anything is released. As far as "custom hero" games go; this is by far the most balanced. It is balanced for any sized game, ranging from 1v1 to 6v6. The new map I am working on will have about the same amount of testing on it. So when I get close to that point; if anyone wants to check it out, just ask. (wont be for a while)
How the Game Works: You start out with a hero picker (after red choses options from taverns) and you select a hero model. All heroes have various ranges, base stats, and stat gains. You then select an offensive skill, defensive skill, misc. skill, Hero based skill, innate, and ultimate. To clarify, offensive skills are just as they sound. the majority of them are nukes, crits, things that increase your damage output in some way. Defensive as as you would assume, things that reduce damage done to you; allow you to flee, or overall extend your life. Misc. skills are skill that could fit into more than 1 hours, wouldnt fit into any, or are just there for the hell of it. a wide variety of skills here. Hero specific skills are mostly custom spells, dealing damage based on stats of heroes. Also ranged/melee only skills go here. Innate skills are not hero skills and do not level. It is a base skill that you can pick to make your hero a little more original. These skills are not really game changing at all, but are nice to have. these are generally passive; or skills that are equally useful all game. Ultimates are just kick ass skills. Some are passive, some are nukes, some are for pvp, some are for creeping. Some are strictly for team games too. Just a note, in the current CHA edit, innate skills are on heroes when you pick them, not pickable. And the hero-type skill tavern doesnt exist. they are planned for my re-made edit.
Plans: I plan to make this like no other hero arena. It is already unique in the fact that it is a balanced "custom hero" arena type game. However the best way of explaining it would be like "mario party" of custom hero arena.
Various FULL modes:
Normal Mode: A normal, hero arena type game. Kill creeps, fight bosses, kill opponents, fight in arenas. There is a side quest involving a lot of quests leading up to a big boss fight. (story mode is just where the first person to finish the quest wins)
Capture the flag: You all know what CTF is. Creep spawns will be reduced insanely, maybe 1 spawn a minute per area. Heroes will gain gold and levels based on hero kills, flag captures, flag returns, flag steals, and other CTF related things. This will be an entire CTF system, with multiboard.
King of the Hill: (both 1 hill and 5 hill mode) I hope you all know what KOTH is. There are 5 hills (or 1) on the map, and your team wants to control them. There will be a set time you need to control them for (time can be selected by red). This will be an entire king of the hill system and multiboard.
Plant the bomb: Again, a classic game. you will have to blow your opponents base up by arming a bomb outside of it. Round will have a time limit to them, followed by an all-team arena duel. Blow up the opponents base X times to win!
gladiator mode: Everyone versus everyone in a giant arena. (this mode is in CHAU 3.0) there is no creeping, after every round you gain 4 extra levels and 8000 extra gold. A round ends when only 1 person is alive in the arena. First person to win a total of 10 rounds wins. (working on a multi-board for this)
4 team mode: Rather than having only 2 teams, it will be possible to play with 2 teams, OR 4 teams. I am also making all of the other modes in this game playable with either 2 or 4 teams.
other options: Aside from full on game modes, you can change the kill count to win, you can increase creep spawns, enable unlimited weapons (normal limit is 1) bonus stats mode, super start (high lvl and gold), fast leveling mode, slow leveling, drop mode (all items are dropped in base when a player leaves), pro mode (harder creeps and bosses) noob mode (boost to player units), and well... a handful of other modes I cant think of off the top of my head.
Items/heroes: Currently there are almost 300 items in the game (not including consumables and power ups), MANY of which are recipe items that combine and upgrade. By the end of this my new map, I plan to have around 350. With my new addition of skill shops, there will be over 8,000,000,000 different builds. (8 billion, right?)
Statement: To make all of these modes playable, I will essentially have to make each mode its whole game, and disable all of the "normal game" triggers when a special mode is picked. I would also like to add that I am really not good with triggers, and how I made it this far I have no idea. I am uploading the current public version of my map to this post; because the one I am working on is far from playable yet. Before next semester starts, I plan to have a semi-playable version to upload. The final product I am planning to release before June.
This is pretty wall-of-text-y, sorry! I will update with progress on the map, and get a version up for anyone to look at as soon as I feel adequate progress has been made.
Reasoning: Slayerdragon created this map ~5 years ago. He quit editing because he lost his unprotected copy. Labmonkey123 got permission from him to deprotect it, and work on it ~2 years ago. Labmonkey then became too busy also, and passed the map on to me. Due to the map being deprotected, then lab working on it, then me working on it (before I really knew anything about editing) the scripting is just.. awful. Painfully awful. All of you would vomit if you saw it; it is that bad. It has gotten to the point that as the game currently is; there isnt much I can do without rebuilding the whole thing, that wont cause errors.
Testing: The current CHA edit out has ~2000 hours of testing invested in it. I have about 30 people on my testers list, and we test for about 2 months before anything is released. As far as "custom hero" games go; this is by far the most balanced. It is balanced for any sized game, ranging from 1v1 to 6v6. The new map I am working on will have about the same amount of testing on it. So when I get close to that point; if anyone wants to check it out, just ask. (wont be for a while)
How the Game Works: You start out with a hero picker (after red choses options from taverns) and you select a hero model. All heroes have various ranges, base stats, and stat gains. You then select an offensive skill, defensive skill, misc. skill, Hero based skill, innate, and ultimate. To clarify, offensive skills are just as they sound. the majority of them are nukes, crits, things that increase your damage output in some way. Defensive as as you would assume, things that reduce damage done to you; allow you to flee, or overall extend your life. Misc. skills are skill that could fit into more than 1 hours, wouldnt fit into any, or are just there for the hell of it. a wide variety of skills here. Hero specific skills are mostly custom spells, dealing damage based on stats of heroes. Also ranged/melee only skills go here. Innate skills are not hero skills and do not level. It is a base skill that you can pick to make your hero a little more original. These skills are not really game changing at all, but are nice to have. these are generally passive; or skills that are equally useful all game. Ultimates are just kick ass skills. Some are passive, some are nukes, some are for pvp, some are for creeping. Some are strictly for team games too. Just a note, in the current CHA edit, innate skills are on heroes when you pick them, not pickable. And the hero-type skill tavern doesnt exist. they are planned for my re-made edit.
Plans: I plan to make this like no other hero arena. It is already unique in the fact that it is a balanced "custom hero" arena type game. However the best way of explaining it would be like "mario party" of custom hero arena.
Various FULL modes:
Normal Mode: A normal, hero arena type game. Kill creeps, fight bosses, kill opponents, fight in arenas. There is a side quest involving a lot of quests leading up to a big boss fight. (story mode is just where the first person to finish the quest wins)
Capture the flag: You all know what CTF is. Creep spawns will be reduced insanely, maybe 1 spawn a minute per area. Heroes will gain gold and levels based on hero kills, flag captures, flag returns, flag steals, and other CTF related things. This will be an entire CTF system, with multiboard.
King of the Hill: (both 1 hill and 5 hill mode) I hope you all know what KOTH is. There are 5 hills (or 1) on the map, and your team wants to control them. There will be a set time you need to control them for (time can be selected by red). This will be an entire king of the hill system and multiboard.
Plant the bomb: Again, a classic game. you will have to blow your opponents base up by arming a bomb outside of it. Round will have a time limit to them, followed by an all-team arena duel. Blow up the opponents base X times to win!
gladiator mode: Everyone versus everyone in a giant arena. (this mode is in CHAU 3.0) there is no creeping, after every round you gain 4 extra levels and 8000 extra gold. A round ends when only 1 person is alive in the arena. First person to win a total of 10 rounds wins. (working on a multi-board for this)
4 team mode: Rather than having only 2 teams, it will be possible to play with 2 teams, OR 4 teams. I am also making all of the other modes in this game playable with either 2 or 4 teams.
other options: Aside from full on game modes, you can change the kill count to win, you can increase creep spawns, enable unlimited weapons (normal limit is 1) bonus stats mode, super start (high lvl and gold), fast leveling mode, slow leveling, drop mode (all items are dropped in base when a player leaves), pro mode (harder creeps and bosses) noob mode (boost to player units), and well... a handful of other modes I cant think of off the top of my head.
Items/heroes: Currently there are almost 300 items in the game (not including consumables and power ups), MANY of which are recipe items that combine and upgrade. By the end of this my new map, I plan to have around 350. With my new addition of skill shops, there will be over 8,000,000,000 different builds. (8 billion, right?)
Statement: To make all of these modes playable, I will essentially have to make each mode its whole game, and disable all of the "normal game" triggers when a special mode is picked. I would also like to add that I am really not good with triggers, and how I made it this far I have no idea. I am uploading the current public version of my map to this post; because the one I am working on is far from playable yet. Before next semester starts, I plan to have a semi-playable version to upload. The final product I am planning to release before June.
This is pretty wall-of-text-y, sorry! I will update with progress on the map, and get a version up for anyone to look at as soon as I feel adequate progress has been made.