[General] Access to WC3 files without owning WC3 ?

[Ardenian]

Hello, well, the story is, I deleted my wc3 game for a reason and sold it, but after some time it came to my mind that if I want to start with 3D-Modeling, I need these specific files to get access to the moddable stuff.

So, is there any way to get these files without having Warcraft III / without having to buy it again ? I just don't want to buy it again as I am not even sure whether I will ever start with 3D-Models.

 

[BloodDrunk]

just download it?

 

[Chaosy]

Download it for free. Google.

 

[Ardenian]

Oh, they made it free, I didn't know..

Thanks a lot !

 

[edo494]

dont think the game is free if you do not have the battle net key, so you can now proudly sing pirate songs

 

[Ardenian]

so you can now proudly sing pirate songs

hahaha, NO , I noticed it is still free.. so I didn't get it via free google dls.

Well, guess I have to buy it then

 

[Ardenian]

@BloodDrunk
Ah, this is illegal, too, isn't it ?

 

[VeljkoM]

Of course it is illegal.

 

[Ardenian]

Oh gosh, I just go to the store and buy a new one, ain't expensive today, gladly.

Just hoped that Blizzard or someone else released the modding content as a single file, on a legal base.

 

[nedio95]

What if he gets only JNGP? He will have access to the editor, but will not be able to test/play. He can see how models are doing when placed, play some animations, but not see them in-game. No?

 

[Chaosy]

What if he gets only JNGP? He will have access to the editor, but will not be able to test/play. He can see how models are doing when placed, play some animations, but not see them in-game. No?

JNGP use the normal worldedit.exe just like the normal editor. And the normal editor get the data from the game MPQs'. So I am pretty sure that wont work.

 

[VeljkoM]

He needs .mpq files where all data is stored not an editor. JNGP can't possible have all of that.

 

[Gismo359]

Magos' loads mpqs in the same directory, if I recall correctly. I dont think mdlvis or any else does that.

 

[edo494]

actually, today in one gaming shop I saw warcraft 3 + frozen throne, basically the same thing I got for like 10€, so its dirt cheap at this point(I got it for 20€ last year during summer)

 

[Ardenian]

He needs .mpq files where all data is stored not an editor

Magos' loads mpqs in the same directory, if I recall correctly

Oh couldn't I download an unprotected map from Hive and view its content with Magos ? Then I would have access to all files as in the .mpq, wouldn't I ?

@edo494 yes, indeed it is pretty cheap these days. In case the idea above does not work, I will probably just spend these 20 €

 

[VeljkoM]

Oh couldn't I download an unprotected map from Hive and view its content with Magos ? Then I would have access to all files as in the .mpq, wouldn't I ?

@edo494 yes, indeed it is pretty cheap these days. In case the idea above does not work, I will probably just spend these 20 €

You can't. Maps themselves don't have .mpq files or else every map would be 1gb. You can't even download models and view them through magos without wc3 since ingame data are loaded directly from game.

...also I do love how 20€ is cheap to you developed nations.

 

[Ardenian]

Oh sad... Then I have to buy it again, I guess..

20€ for two games are indeed cheap compared to 60€ or even more for one new game!

 

[Chaosy]

...also I do love how 20€ is cheap to you developed nations.

You've seen nothing yet

the new games cost like 70$, that's what Dragon Age Inqusition cost me anyway. Skyrim was quite expensive when it was new too. If a game goes for 10$ it's either crap or extremely old.

 

[VeljkoM]

I do know that modern games cost over 60$, you don't all need to point that out. I honestly find those costs for entertainment insane and I'd rather spend money like that one bills, food, rent etc.

 

[Gismo359]

You can't even download models and view them through magos without wc3 since ingame data are loaded directly from game.

Actually, if you have the game MPQs in the same directory you can view models that use in-game textures normally. For models with custom textures, you have to follow the paths.

Anyway, you need the Wc3 MPQ's atleast. I remember reading that you can download the game via your account in (the Wc3) battle.net. I dont know if thats true or not but its worth a try.

E: Yeah, I find it strange that the more buyers/fans a company has, the higher the cost of the newer games they release.

 

[Ardenian]

I remember reading that you can download the game via your account in (the Wc3) battle.net. I dont know if thats true or not but its worth a try.

I will try to, thank you! ( just have to remember my password...)

 

[VeljkoM]

Doesn't downloading from B.Net require you to remember CD Key?

 

[Ardenian]

Doesn't downloading from B.Net require you to remember CD Key?

Even if it does, I wrote it down after buying the CD, so that is no problem.

 

[Chaosy]

Even if it does, I wrote it down after buying the CD, so that is no problem.

Bu-but..

If you got the CD key you don't need to but a new one damn it.

Download warcraft 3 like a pirate, yarr. Most of them use the normal installer and provide you with a (illegal) CD key. Use your own CD key and it's completely legal..

 

[Ardenian]

If you got the CD key you don't need to but a new one damn it.

oh, I didn't know -.-'

I will try the method Gismo359 suggested, guess it is the most legal way anyway.
If it does not work out, then I will just go that way, I guess..

 

[VeljkoM]

Actually if he has CD key he can legal download it from Blizzard. No need for 3rd party site.

It is still illegal to use torrent actually (or is it only illegal to upload and not to download). Not that anyone really cares honestly, in eastern half of europe (Hi!) everyone does it. Though most wc3 torrents these days lack normal installer which screw up recognition of map files, .mpq files etc (must open them manually with editors)...

 

[Chaosy]

Actually if he has CD key he can legal download it from Blizzard. No need for 3rd party site.

He said that he sold his key though, so it's possible that the key is bound to another battle.net account at this point. If that's the case he can't get it from Blizzard. Unless he bound it to his own battle.net account before he sold it.

It's not illegal to use torrents.. Blizzard use torrents for patching World of Warcraft for example. It's illegal to download copyrighted stuff in general though.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001042.htm

 

[VeljkoM]

That link specifically says two times it is illegal to download games. Game data is copyrighted. And I was sure Blizzard uses Blizzard Support to provide legal patches (that's where I get my Blizz game patches) , or auto-update and not torrents. Still patch is not same as full game.

Sharing or downloading computer software (programs, games, etc.).

A software program or game you'd buy at a store

Using torrents on its own is legal.

 

[Gismo359]

Even if he has claimed the cd-key in battle.net, both of the users cannot be online at the same time (in Wc3, that is).

 

[Ardenian]

Even if he has claimed the cd-key in battle.net, both of the users cannot be online at the same time

I doubt the guy who I sold the game to will go online in wc3, but even in case, I don't/won't play wc3 anymore, except for certain occasions.

Thanks for your help, guys!