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So, for the three reasons listed above (interest in his stories and ideas, looking for a writing help, curiosity whether his claims are true - in that specific order), I've decided to contact him.

I've assumed that since he claims that he is good at writing stories, he must have actually went ahead and written something. I've expected one of these answers:

1. Him sharing a story with me.
2. Him saying that he doesn't want to share as story.
3. Him saying that he writes in his native language and doesn't have anything written in English.

I've also considered the possibility that he hasn't written and sadly, after his initial answer I've begun to suspect that might be the case. However, I wanted to give him a fair chance and continued asking.

His further answers, as evidenced by the screenshot, convinced me that he in fact has not written anything yet.

As he claimed that he is good at writing stories, I've thought that having something like this on his profile page might be seen to some as me exposing him as basically a "fake writer" (i.e. some might think that he lied when saying he is good at writing stories). I didn't want to do that.

Also, as you can see in the screenshot, he begun acting a bit uneasy about it and acting as if I offended him, despite me not having any desire to do so. Thus, I've realized what @pyf said that there likely was an misuderstanding.

So, due to these 2 reasons I've went ahead and deleted this profile post conversation. Afterwards, I've immidiately PM-ed him and explained that we just can't understand one another and that I doubt we ever will (seeing as how he became negative about me at that point and thought me to be rude).

In that PM I've also apologized for anything that might have offended him and offered that I would not comment on any of his future posts to avoid further misunderstandings. I've explicitly stated that despite what he might think, I don't want to engage in negative and unconstructive conversations and thus I find our profile exchange as unnecessary.

I didn't list the other reason for deleting these posts as I feared he might understand that in a wrong way and get offended even more. In hindsight, I believe I should have said that as well.

He then lectured me a bit (which I didn't mind or reply to) and assured me that he would finish his project, to which I've wished him good luck and expressed belief that if he indeed does complete it, it will be good to both him and people who might enjoy it.

At the same time, I've also informed him that I will not check out his project, because I might be tempted to offer some critique (i.e. constructive feedback) and that he might see that as rude. I admit, while it was partially me being a bit hurt by his opinion of me, I did not mean that in an offensive way.

What I got in return? A phrase like "you should know who you are speaking to, that's all I have to say to you", which I've taken as a direct threat towards me. Still, I did not reply to it.

What I did reply to was him being obviously taken aback by the word "critique" - I've simply suggested that he checked the dictionary for the meaning of that word and given him a link.

He responded with "lol, are u kidding me", to which I've only said "I'm going to ask nicely, leave me alone - I'm not interested in further conversation with you". I had hoped that this would end the whole thing, but no - he just had to slap another "rude guy" at the end, which I personally felt offended by and yes, I admit - I've got triggered and responded by calling him an idiot.

Though, at this point I feel that my reaction was not unreasonable seeing as I've felt attacked, threatened and offended by him along the way and believe it or not, I also do have a point where I enough is enough.

Luckily, I had to go to work and he just replied with "xD". When I came back home I've regained my composure and just moved on.

And yes, I admit - I might have had a bit of fun of maxxus in some profile comments, but I don't think I've mentioned him by name or - honestly - I don't really think I've actually said anything offensive there either, though - once again, I admit that this kind of behavior on my part might be seen as immature and rather impolite.

When @Ralle settled the heated conversation in maxxus' original thread, I've noticed that maxxus admitted that he should have described his project better - which is something I've told him there initially and which at that point I've thought got him so offended.

So, I've PM-ed him again. I've thought that he has genuinely understood something and since I really don't like having hard feelings towards anyone, I've suggested "peace".

I've expressed satisfaction that he has learned his lesson (paraphrasing his own words) and hope that he now sees that I wasn't rude to him (I genuinely thought he said that because of my post in his threat where I've sugggested that he described his project in more detail).

After that, I've openly offered "peace" - I suggested that we BOTH apologize to each other, me for calling him an idiot and having a bit of fun at his expense in profile posts, he for threatening me and calling me things.

I had hoped that this would settle the issue - that he would agree, apologize to each other and continue to coexist peacefully, putting that BS drama behind us. But... Nope, that didn't happen.

He responded by calling me a "rude, salty child" and... get ready for it - telling me to learn how to write in English!

I didn't get back at him, though... I've just said that "And I had hoped you learned something - but okay, tell me what was so offensive in the things I've said to you before you called me "rude"". I genuinely wanted to know and yes, I've hoped that maybe we could still have a civil discussion about that and that he would help me understand.

To which he replied that I've deleted the profile posts (seen in the screenshot posted by Ralle) and told me to "go start a salty discussion somewhere else".

At this point I've got triggered again, but I've managed to stay cool and just say "ok, if you don't want to talk then don't or go to a site where you feel people understand you better, because I'm not going to do what you tell me to and I will say what I have to say anyway".

He called me a "salty child" and told me to "go discharge my saltiness somewhere else", to which I've replied that it was me who tried to apologize and make peace between us twice and he refused, so if he could ignore me, so can I ignore him and thus I won't go.

I've continued by asking him to explain what was rude in me asking to read some of his stories and getting interested with them? He didn't answer, he didn't try to explain - that will, by the way, become a common theme later on.

He just continued calling me "rude", "salty", "child", claim that I don't know how to read when he does, but... I've tried one more time - I've told him that he's just repeating the same thing over and over again, but I would really like him to answer my question and that if he did, I would go somewhere else and stop bugging him.

I believe that at this point he just ignored me as he didn't reply further. Nor did he explain where was it that he felt that I was rude. I've waited a bit like a damn fool hoping that he would reply and actually explain to me whatever have I done to him.

And yes, I had hoped that if he explained to me how I hurt him, we could work it out.

Yet, he didn't. I just wrote him one last message where I've said basically what I'm saying here - that I had hoped that we could settle this, but I get the impression that there's no reasoning with him, because he either doesn't want to or doesn't know how to engage in a proper discussion.

I've also pointed out that I give up on reaching him and that since he doesn't have any actual arguments, I won't waste any more of my time on listening to him just saying the same "omg, you salty" thing over and over again.

I've also said this - "I hope for your sake that you're either trolling or are too stubborn to admit that I was not rude to you". I uphold this statement. What I meant by it is that I hoped that he doesn't have some sort of personal issues that would make him overly sensitive and vulnerable to what other people say.

At any rate, bar me saying that I will actually reply to him in the forum if I feel like I have anything to add - which I didn't do, that was the end of our private conversation.

What happened after?

Well, instead of replying to me in private and settling things between us like two adults would do, he went to deepstrasz's profile page and started calling me names again. As this was some time later and I didn't actually say anything to him until the end of our conversation, in my opinion this is obviously an unprovoked attack.

I've just restated that I don't think that I've said anything offensive in the profile posts that he mentioned and agreed that the mods take a look at is as I have nothing to hide.

I've also asked him again to explain what he is so offended by to which - one again - he did not respond.

I've also suggested that he moved on, which - as apparent by the comment above, he didn't do either.

So, yes, I admit - maybe I could have handed things better, but I feel like I've genuinely tried to avoid this whole drama. I've reached out to him in private, tried to apologize, but nope - he doesn't want to end this.

Instead he just continues to harass me in profile comments for some reason and avoids any real discussion about what happened. This is why - sorry, @pyf - but there are hard feelings on my side and now I believe that I have been wronged and disturbed by him and that now I do deserve an honest apology for his continuous attempts at flaming me and trying to get other people to "hate" me as he apparently does.

I realize that nobody read this, but I feel better that I've left it here.

And - I do have evidence to back up what I've just said, since I have screenshots saved on my hard drive of our private conversation, profile comments on deepstrasz profile, these profile comments, what I've originally wrote in his thread and now thanks to Ralle also my intial profile comments on maxxus profile.

If anyone's interested, I can verify that what I've said here is true, though personally I think that outside of maxxus who keeps bringing this up and me (because I'm getting attacked), no one else cares about this shit.

To this end, I will ASK for the LAST time.

MAXXUS - MOVE ON AND STOP POSTING SHIT ABOUT ME.

I'm not responding to your comments or posts unless they are about me. Stop talking about me and we won't talk anymore. It's that simple.

I don't want an apology, I don't want to talk with you, I don't want to have anything to do with you, because I don't like you. As much as I believe you don't like me.

I just want this whole nonsense drama to finally be put to rest, so how about that? You stop bringing this up, I stop defending myself, everyone gets to do his own thing, the problem is solved.

P.S. And if you feel that I've offended you anywhere or broke the rules, just use the report button and have a moderator review the situation. It's his - not yours - job to get justice for users.

But, if you will continue to attack and harass me then know this - it just makes you come across as a salty child, not me. I'm not going to further reply to any of your accusations, but...

If you do continue to insult me publicly anywhere then I genuinely hope that @Ralle will stop it as I believe flaming and harassing other users is against the site rules or - at the very least - is not something that should happen in a healthy community that Ralle as an owner of this site would most certainly want to promote.

That said, I think I've explained everything in detail and I hope that this whole drama bullshit dies with this very post.

Well I did read this. And for spamming my alerts with (omg) 21 comments, you get a new follower. Sometimes, life is strange...


But now, I feel compelled to point out something.

The phrase which you have taken as a direct threat towards you, was imho not a threat at all. You remember it as something like 'you should know who you are speaking to, that's all I have to say to you'.

May I kindly invite you if you feel like it, to please read again his *exact* sentence/words with an open mind? I think he meant something different. I also think that you found out yourself already in one of your 21 comments, what he possibly tried to say.

Again, please keep in mind always that he does not seem to be very good at expressing his thoughts in English. I personally believe that this mess is imho all because of misunderstandings, related to the language barrier.

Should you and/or a moderator feel like it, we could have a conversation together to settle this 'drama' and discover its root causes.

What do you think?

@pyf - I appreciate that you try to mediate, but I don't think I'm the one you need to get through to here. I've already offered maxxus that we could apologize to each other and put that whole thing behind us. He refused, twice.

So, sorry - but I'm not going to reach out to him and offer the same thing again. I just don't believe he would accept it and I feel like this would only re-ignite the whole "drama" and get him to attack me even more or me to say something that he would consider "rude".

I'm comfortable with how things seem to stand right now, i.e. us just ignoring one another. Well, at least I hope that the fact he didn't bring it up recently is a sign that he agreed to move on and go for the whole "we don't talk to each other" approach.