Mod Suggestion

Well then apply the rules, only working maps (meaning a map that has left the beta stage) will be moderated.
As a second rule there must be prove that map has been tested for bugs.

If the map is still in beta or alpha, or if the map has not been tested you should leave it pending.

Either that or you add rules that it's not allowed to submit uncomplete maps.
Might be harsh but this will reduce the amount of work.

I certainly agree, even I often test my map before release it... but..

Sigh* some people would never learn.. they expect somebody else to check it for them.. they think us map mod as chop liver.

Once they failed to get a new review, they delete and re-upload their resources as a new one. Which is a total waste of our mod time and bandiwith of this website.

As far as I see it, It is not that there is little moderators, it is the fact that others think they can bullshit the moderators with constant updates. There should be a tag, that when updated, this tag informs users and moderators alike. An updated map should recieve no moderation unless it is leaving the unapproved stage.

Originally Posted by Airandius

Well then apply the rules, only working maps (meaning a map that has left the beta stage) will be moderated.
As a second rule there must be prove that map has been tested for bugs.

If the map is still in beta or alpha, or if the map has not been tested you should leave it pending.

Either that or you add rules that it's not allowed to submit uncomplete maps.
Might be harsh but this will reduce the amount of work.

Unfortunately, only 1% out of 100% of the map that exist in WC3 could only be consider as gold version.

Like I said you can't judge skill.

Originally Posted by Septimus

I certainly agree, even I often test my map before release it... but..

It's the best thing to do, I do so myself with some friends.
At least then I know if a map is good enough.

Originally Posted by Septimus

Sigh* some people would never learn.. they expect somebody else to check it for them.. they think us map mod as chop liver.

Once they failed to get a new review, they delete and re-upload their resources as a new one. Which is a total waste of our mod time and bandiwith of this website.

My opinion:
- Remove the download button for users so they can't delete it themselfs.
When the map is offending or just plain bad, and then I realy mean bad.. Moderaters will be the only ones able to remove it.
- If you are not going to remove the download button or it's not possible you should just ignore maps that are deleted and reuploaded.

Originally Posted by Sergeant Ray

As far as I see it, It is not that there is little moderators, it is the fact that others think they can bullshit the moderators with constant updates. There should be a tag, that when updated, this tag informs users and moderators alike. An updated map should recieve no moderation unless it is leaving the unapproved stage.

Well, that's a good idea but in my opinion there should be 2 stages where it will get a moderation.
- It will get a moderation when its uploaded for the first time.
- It will be re-moderated when it reaches 'gold' version, you know when a map is 101% complete and will never recieve updates. But it has a lower moderation priorety then first uploaded maps.

I agree. We have that solved, but now what to do when the try to re upload it? How to dectect that?

We mod have a special function that enable us to detect a resources whether it have been re-upload or not.

I have been requesting Ralle to implement a system that prevent user from deleting approve resources, but Ralle ignored it by saying the user have the right to delete their own resources.

I agree with him, but some irresponsible user abuse it for this purpose.

1) To get new review
2) To bump to front pages
3) To get better rating

I also have request him to give us map mod more authority such as banning violator from upload any resources in the future if they constantly doing that, but this have been ignored as well.

Moderators should be the only ones to be able to delete a resource by request of the artist, in order to hold control of a situation. Ralle is correct a user does have the permission, to delete their resource, but when they pull shit like that, they only hurt themselves, and the privalege.

Currently, the best way to remove a mass amount of pending map is to implement this system.

1) Delete approve resources only could be done by moderator.
2) User are not allowed to upload more than 2 map in within 24 hours.

24 hours? why not 48? it should take time to approve a map.

The removal of my right to delete my resources at my discretion will result in legal take down notices being sent, with non-compliance resulting in contacting the THW ISP to have the site shut down for copyright violation. I have not, and will not, grant THW the eternal right to host my maps, and I'm sure many others feel the same. Arbitarily changing that cannot be done within the law.

Captain Griffen, :fail:
The Hive is giving you the right to host the map. You are not giving the Hive anything but the map. There is no legal process here. This is about helping the mods, not your so called rights.

Why would one delete a resource anyway? There is a perfect way to update maps.

If u upload a bad map, tough luck and make it better by updating it.
If u upload a good map.. why delete it.. it's good right?

If you just want a better rating then don't upload maps of bad quality.
If u want more dls then just attach your map section in your signature and become popular.

If you realy want your map being removed you can just ask a mod to do it.

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For these reasons I agree with Septimus and Sergeant Ray.
Remove the delete button!

Also the limit of maps you can upload is a good idea because you can't make a good quality map in a day.

Originally Posted by Airandius

Why would one delete a resource anyway? There is a perfect way to update maps.

If u upload a bad map, tough luck and make it better by updating it.
If u upload a good map.. why delete it.. it's good right?

If you just want a better rating then don't upload maps of bad quality.
If u want more dls then just attach your map section in your signature and become popular.

If you realy want your map being removed you can just ask a mod to do it.

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For these reasons I agree with Septimus and Sergeant Ray.
Remove the delete button!

Also the limit of maps you can upload is a good idea because you can't make a good quality map in a day.

Agree. There should not be a map delete, You uploaded a piece of shit, it is your fault. You get one moderation, two only if the map is moving from unapproved to approved. Instead of creating more work for the moderators, take responsibility for what you uploaded. There is no reason that a user should have this much power over the forums, these right give them power over the staff. Maby if Ralle would moderate maps, he would understand how you feel.