Warcraft 4 Mod?

WARCRAFT 4

Just thought i'd open up the discussion of their being a warcraft 4 type mod within the sc2 engine.
No dought there will be many new advancements that will enable much better gameplay, but ofcourse there could be drawbacks, such as no Heroes/Items potential within sc2?

Regardless what would you like to see in a warcraft 4 mod, Gameplay Wise were it ever to come out.

Stuff id like to see:

• More Racial Heroes
  Would also be nice if they were all generally created/designed so any of them can potentially be a decent 1st Hero, as current war3 tends to favour certain heroes.

• More Diverse Neutral Heroes
  * More Auras (Currently not even one :-()
  * More Unique passives (Just like - Drunken Brawler & Cleave)
  * Less repetitive abilities (e.g. the many AoE's, Rain of Fire, Breath of Fire, Forked Lightning, Cluster Rockets 'Yawn')

• Units can levelup
  A nice way of rewarding players for tier1 units the've struggeled to keep alive. I think giving them abilities to learn would be a bit over the top, but minor bonuses, and perhaps a final passive ability for if they reach max level.
  Perhaps tier units could be capped at lvl3, tier 2 at lvl4, tier 3 at lvl5?

• More 'tactics/micro' on Core Units
  More units could gain 'stance' abilities similiar to Defend/Beserk/Shadow Meld
  Rifleman, could have a 'Snipe' ability, disabling movement, but gives a bonus
  Grunts, could have a 'Beserker/Defensive' stance
  Knights, could have a 'Charge' ability (Similair to what Zealots are getting in sc2).
  etc. etc.

• More UpgradesId like tosee more upgrades, especially on the Main Buildings.
  I'd especially like to see upgrades that can improve your economy

Any other ideas?

Hopefully if we get some good feedback on this I can update this thread with everyones suggestions in an easy to read list.

I was actually thinking of starting such a mod myself.

An RPG for the whole family? -.-

Originally Posted by ragingspeedhorn

I was actually thinking of starting such a mod myself.

Hehe, so did you have any ideas on expanding on the current war3 gameplay?

It would basicly be taking all what is good from Sc2, all that is good from Wc3 and whatever else that might be awesome and then create a story about what I would say would happen after the end of Wc3, some years or something later.

I would like to see a Warcraft mod for Starcraft. If someone can create a good one that is well executed. I think it would be quite Epic.

heay people
i spent some time doing stuff like this
so i want to help with this
since once its releaced
there will need to be

1. a system of 1 campaines or a SEMPQ drafting update

also once things take off on my avast project and rageingspeedhorn finaly follows up on his poromesses to me i would be glad to help/wright some of the lore

IL keep myself busy with lore!

As will I......I love lore.

Ok so, id assume it would be set just after or during WoW?
What races would we have?

- Human
- Orc
- Night Elf
- Undead

- Burning Legion ?
- Blood Elf/Naga?

What Heroes/Units would we now have, as e.g. Blood Elf are no longer with Humans.

The tech tree should be changed around a lot, to make it seem more new and exciting. Also of races I would say the Undead should not really be followed much, but perhaps have more focus on Naga.

i agree
in war3 the naga were just there
also in the night elf campin they said "we were the high born"

Problem with Naga is they are Aquatic, so strange to seem them becoming a full blown land based race.
Thats why I'd recommend making Blood Elfs a primary with some Naga as secondary support in there, just like how Human had some Blood Elf/Dwarfs in with them.
(Ghomes could fill in for the Blood Elfs for Human).

Im pretty sure Blood Elf + Naga both originate from the 'High Born'. They went there own way's after the Sageras assult 10k years ago.

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So anyways what Naga Heroes would we have then?
Sea Witch is a given, any others?

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I also agree with raging, I think the techtree could be fiddeled with heavily.
Especially IMO, the casters & there spells.

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Undead should they be the Scourge or the Forsaken?
Both offer different heroes & units.

I am not that much up to date with the lore so whatever of the 2, Scourge or Forsaken, that would have the best possibility for a good storyline should be chosen, perhaps switch a bit between the 2 in that campaign.

Well, you better do it quick before Blizzard rapes some more Warcraft lore after SC2 comes out.