How do you make a forest?

pomop · Jul 31, 2008

how do YOU make a forest?

Please, share how you make a forest with the world, have fun with it ^.^

madman9800 · Jul 31, 2008

This is how i make a forest (ashenvale tileset)

1. zoom out fairly far, cover a large area with "grass"
2. set brush size to 2 and make patches and strips of "lumpy grass"
3. set brush size to 1 and make patches and small strips of "grassy dirt"
4. set brush size to 3 or 4 and select the height tool, increase and decrease the height of random places
5. place trees randomly and not too crowded
6. place mushrooms close to most of the trees
7. place rocks and shrubs where it seems empty.
8. use doodads creatively to make caves, etc..

Thats about it.

Here is a screenshots of what the result would be.

NinjasDontFight · Jul 31, 2008

Well if you bothered to LOOK AT ALL... we have alot of fine terrainers withen the HWS. Their are many great terrains, including Forests...

btw madman9800, do a bit better.

Celaquil · Jul 31, 2008

Well, madman, your explanaition was fairly good, but your terrain wasnt

Also, lets add:
- Do NOT make the end of the world viewable, use fog.
- Never let tree and tile touch each other in the pic, place some grass in front, cause if you just make a tree and then nothing to cover up the place where it crashes with the tile it will be a too large contrast.
- Also, do not let the grass nor the trees pitch roll following the hills, rather lower them into the ground unthill they dont float anymore.
- If your good placing grass, vines, flowers and shrubs then the tile variation aint THAT important in a forest.

And for a last little tip, dont make a terrain ONLY focusing on the forest, have a plot, like a road or something that you focus on as well, only a forest will get to boring

Eleandor · Jul 31, 2008

Keiji said:
Well, madman, your explanaition was fairly good, but your terrain wasnt

Not true. The terrain is good, the screenshots are chosen a bit badly. On top of that, this terrain would have a LOT of potential of being playable, and as a playable terrain it looks good.

Also, lets add:
- Do NOT make the end of the world viewable, use fog.

This doesn't make the terrain bad, it makes the screenshot bad. He has used fog nonetheless.

- Never let tree and tile touch each other in the pic, place some grass in front, cause if you just make a tree and then nothing to cover up the place where it crashes with the tile it will be a too large contrast.

I think in his screenshots it's still ok, and not a real problem. As a matter of fact, grass at every tree's roots are boring and even unrealistic.

- Also, do not let the grass nor the trees pitch roll following the hills, rather lower them into the ground unthill they dont float anymore.

Trees aren't pitching. Well, one is, but every forest has those few trees who grow weird for some reason.

And for a last little tip, dont make a terrain ONLY focusing on the forest, have a plot, like a road or something that you focus on as well, only a forest will get to boring

madman gave a good example on this one, right?

Huurka · Jul 31, 2008

LOL! Look at the tree in the second picture.

LordDz · Jul 31, 2008

I think the first guy just asked how to make a simple forest... But that might just be me

pomop · Jul 31, 2008

eh, kind of... im wanting everybody to show how they make a forest, that way newcomers (me somewhat, but ive been terraining for a while

) will be able to view, and learn how people create their forests, rather than simply look at a screenshot.
I also changed my first post to reflect this

by the way, how do i change the title of the post to reflect more of what its about?

(if you do change title, please change it to "How do YOU make a forest?" or change "YOU" to any type of specific person targeting, rather than simply "how do you make a forest?" as if it was a question of how to do it.)

NinjasDontFight · Jul 31, 2008

Oh well, ok... I'll edit this later...

Gilles · Jul 31, 2008

pomop said:
eh, kind of... im wanting everybody to show how they make a forest, that way newcomers (me somewhat, but ive been terraining for a while ) will be able to view, and learn how people create their forests, rather than simply look at a screenshot.
I also changed my first post to reflect this

by the way, how do i change the title of the post to reflect more of what its about?

(if you do change title, please change it to "How do YOU make a forest?" or change "YOU" to any type of specific person targeting, rather than simply "how do you make a forest?" as if it was a question of how to do it.)

Try the tutorials section as there is already a tutorial on this topic; by HernenG.
Terraining Tut. - Forests

Celaquil · Jul 31, 2008

Eleandor said:
Not true. The terrain is good, the screenshots are chosen a bit badly. On top of that, this terrain would have a LOT of potential of being playable, and as a playable terrain it looks good.

This doesn't make the terrain bad, it makes the screenshot bad. He has used fog nonetheless.

I think in his screenshots it's still ok, and not a real problem. As a matter of fact, grass at every tree's roots are boring and even unrealistic.

Trees aren't pitching. Well, one is, but every forest has those few trees who grow weird for some reason.

madman gave a good example on this one, right?

Look man, firstly: who the hell are you?!

And secondly, I was stating my opinions, of how I make terrains, so dont go about and bitch about it please...

Gilles · Aug 1, 2008

Keiji said:
Look man, firstly: who the hell are you?!
And secondly, I was stating my opinions, of how I make terrains, so dont go about and bitch about it please...

He's Elendor, a well respected member and a good terrainer. I'd watch it.

I agree with everything he said. Although it isn't just the camera angle, the terrain isn't very good either.

Celaquil · Aug 1, 2008

Gilles said:
I'd watch it.

Ehm, watch it for what ? I asked who he is, and nothing else, and yes I mean he was bitching..

Just to add: I was trying to be helpfull in my post, of how I mean to make a good terrain, so sorry people... -.-

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Eleandor · Aug 1, 2008

I'm not bitching. I'm saying the terrain is good. It's not "madsen" quality, but it's definitely not the worst I've seen here. He has just made a few mistakes such as making the terrain at the border of the map and choosing certain bad camera angles. If it were to be in-game, it would look good. The issues you mentioned aren't really related to the terrain but to the presentation of it. While representation might be important for galleries, I'm sure that
- the original question was not related to presentation of terrains but to make a good terrain
- if those terrains were to be posted at a gallery, a proper presentation would have been made.

Celaquil · Aug 1, 2008

Oh right, well, I'm a style terrainer, terraining for only showing the pics. So I gave advices related to that. I now see what you meant, and I'm sorry for my reaction.
We were both aiming for different styles when we said what we ment. So, no hard feelings?

pomop · Aug 1, 2008

jeez... dont mean to be rude but reread what i wrote in first post.. "how do YOU make a forest?" not how to make a forest in general, but how you, personaly, make a forest... it will help many others who want to start terraining, and it also shows how different people make forests, rather than a bunch of screen shots and 1-2 tutorials....

Gilles · Aug 1, 2008

A) No one was being rude to you at all.

B) We did share all our thoughts on it.

C) Just look at our work, if you study it you can see what we did.

D) It's easier to make a forest and then have people comment than for us to tell people how to do it.

E) This topic will die off and be forgotten, thus not really helping any new terrainers. We have stickies with help for new people.

thedeathunterxx · Aug 4, 2008

isn't that a little harsh on this thread Gilles?
i mean this person was just tryin to make a thread.

i honestly dont care about the other thread for beggginers because some of us arn't begginers xD

keep this thread alive!!!

here is what i think a forest should look like... i made it in 2 hours

-i began map with random hieght field, then put random patches of grass everywhere. ( took me 1 minute)
-then i changed the world tree so that it had mushroom pathing and that it was smaller and greener.
- next i changed the ashenvale tree to be bigger and greener. Then using the CTRL_+ PGUP , i raised their heights so that it would actually loook like a tree with a nice trunk ( instead of a wierd spike :O)
- after that i created mountains in the background, then added the fog and then the sky.
- then i made a tall mountain and used waterfalls to make a large waterfall.
- next i changed Max pitch angle of felwood Spires to make it seem realler.
- finnally i added shrubs and crap

And here is the end result

oops i for got to add a picture of the waterfall xD

sry

Gilles · Aug 4, 2008

I wasn't harsh at all, I stated my opinions on the matter. I don't see a purpose in this thread. I'm not going to close it or anything, it's just my opinion.

Oh and I changed the title, since I never noticed you asked me to. Sorry about that.

thedeathunterxx · Aug 4, 2008

o good, i thought u were gonna get rid of this thread because ur like an administrator :O

thnx 4 keepin it here, i like seein these forests. Might be helpful to some who cant find a good forest picture.

Gilles · Aug 5, 2008

thedeathunterxx said:
o good, i thought u were gonna get rid of this thread because ur like an administrator :O

thnx 4 keepin it here, i like seein these forests. Might be helpful to some who cant find a good forest picture.

I'm a moderator, huge difference.

But there are thousands of forest pictures. It's the most popular type of terrain.

How do you make a forest?

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