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Celaquil · Jul 19, 2008

So, this is some terrain shots from the map I'm currently working on, and has released a v1.0 of here at hive. (check sig for more)

Anyways, I know that the terrain is not really good, and thats the reason I'm posting it here. To get some advices on how to make it better. NOTE that it shall be a playable terrain and I WONT import anything more to add to the terrain. I can only use the doodads allready inside the WE.

Huurka · Jul 19, 2008

Don't use the blizzard cliffs, you should know that, but you did a good job using them.

Very good for playable.

seruk · Jul 19, 2008

Yeah Don't Use Blizz Cliffs In A Playable Map Are You Stupid Or Something?!
[/irony]

Celaquil · Jul 19, 2008

omg guys, i rather use blizzard cliffs than have to SPAM pathing blockers, so i ignore the fucking dont use blizz cliffs, that not an option to change. its the rest, and is it good? i thought there could at least be some improvement... <.<

Nudl9 · Jul 19, 2008

omg guys, i rather use blizzard cliffs than have to SPAM pathing blockers, so i ignore the fucking dont use blizz cliffs, that not an option to change. its the rest, and is it good? i thought there could at least be some improvement... <.<

You can actually fix the pathing blocker problem by changing its path.
Pathing - Pathing Texture: PathTextures\4x4Default.tga
Change it to PathTextures\16x16Default.tga, then you got a giant pathing blocker

You can ofc make it even bigger with a custom pathing texture.

Don't use the blizzard cliffs, you should know that, but you did a good job using them.

Blizzard cliffs are far cooler in playable maps, because they are modified to give cliff vision advantage, block sight which raise hight cliffs doesnt give.
The only way to solve this problem is to make blizzard cliffs under, use ramp tool around the whole place you want cliff features then smooth it to the same cliff level, but its a damn pain in the ass to do that.

~Void~ · Jul 19, 2008

Meh. It's ok. More tile variation, and the grass you used is ugly and how you placed it is too random. For playable terrain, I find placing grass in clumps is better.

NinjasDontFight · Jul 19, 2008

Playable terrain, and cinematic terrain are completly diffrent. Keiji's terrain looks perfect to me...

Sabertooth · Jul 19, 2008

Take screenshots of playable terrain from the playable camera, because that's how we'd be playing the map. You're not showcasing an artsy terrain. It just makes more sense, because I could care less what your terrain looks like from these funky angles if it's for a map I might sometime play.

~Void~ · Jul 19, 2008

And what are those little chode obelisk things? ;P

NinjasDontFight · Jul 19, 2008

Download the map and play it from their, the real one always looks better than screenshots.

~Void~ · Jul 19, 2008

Nudl9 said:
You can actually fix the pathing blocker problem by changing its path.
Pathing - Pathing Texture: PathTextures\4x4Default.tga
Change it to PathTextures\16x16Default.tga, then you got a giant pathing blocker
You can ofc make it even bigger with a custom pathing texture.

Blizzard cliffs are far cooler in playable maps, because they are modified to give cliff vision advantage, block sight which raise hight cliffs doesnt give.
The only way to solve this problem is to make blizzard cliffs under, use ramp tool around the whole place you want cliff features then smooth it to the same cliff level, but its a damn pain in the ass to do that.

There's a Line of Sight blocker doodad, too ;P

Nudl9 · Jul 19, 2008

There's a Line of Sight blocker doodad, too ;P

Yeah, but it blocks both ways and fucks up fly sight.

Huurka · Jul 19, 2008

Weird.

I don't have to spam pathing blockers D:

Celaquil · Jul 20, 2008

The obelisk place is suppost to be a demonic base, its where Orochi is summoned, if you got any idea of DW/SW

(also its a guy named KenshinUeasugi who did that terrain part <.<) And the random placement, well, i think its better than way that clump it together, and ill considre the tile variation, and also, ill add som from-player-screen shots tomorrow ^^

seruk · Jul 20, 2008

Keiji said:
omg guys, i rather use blizzard cliffs than have to SPAM pathing blockers, so i ignore the fucking dont use blizz cliffs, that not an option to change. its the rest, and is it good? i thought there could at least be some improvement... <.<

Clearly you saw the [/irony].

Celaquil · Jul 20, 2008

Right, the Irony

Anyways, heres some ingame pics, of me killing of yellow

Gausslander · Jul 20, 2008

that actually looks quite interesting. I like how the ninjas have blink, it adds strategy.

Campir · Jul 20, 2008

umm, i think the non in-game looked better

. Well except for picture four, the cliff overlooking the base is realy cool and the blinking ninjas are awesome. Also i'm with you using cliffs in playable maps, I do, and it ends up working way better then pathing blockers, also pathing blockers confuse players because the player will just see a hill not realizing its actually a cliff and try to walk up, then get more confused because they can't walk up. Gj on the terrain!

Celaquil · Jul 20, 2008

hah, ofc the others are better, cause they are taken form angles and you see fog on them, but thats not what you will see ingame so therefor i added these ingame shots ^^ The backside with blinking ninjas is that you cant get all of em to blink at once, you'll have to spam tap B and hit the location, but its nice nevertheless

Naze · Jul 21, 2008

Okay, okay, the blizz cliffs fix with the terrain.

You should tint the trees a bit darker, so they'll fix with the cliffs' colors.

You should do the same with the lily pads. They're too green...

Campir · Jul 21, 2008

Keiji said:
hah, ofc the others are better, cause they are taken form angles and you see fog on them, but thats not what you will see ingame so therefor i added these ingame shots ^^ The backside with blinking ninjas is that you cant get all of em to blink at once, you'll have to spam tap B and hit the location, but its nice nevertheless

If you use a leap ability as opposed to a blink you can eliminate the having to spam "B" problem, while getting nearly the same effect you would from using blink. I suggest using a leap similiar to the one in (dare i say it) dota. I think the priestess of the moon hero has one that would work well.

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