Moderators need to answer to someone

Cause the concept of criticizing the dictatorship is flawed by itself.

Originally Posted by Rising_Dusk

And it should be all mods' and admins' jobs to enforce them.

It is. Its just that sometimes we yell at each other. We're only human, you see

When that happens, we generally yell at each other more until the problem is solved

Or, you know, you guys yell at each other, nothing gets fixed, and half the active staff rage-quits. It's not like that has happened recently or anything. Really, if my points made here were unfounded, I wouldn't be making them.

I think the problem that users have when they post these topics about moderator rights, is that they fail to realise that forums in general are meant to be a dictatorship. You can't run it any other way, it just doesn't work. I've seen plenty of forums try to do it differently, and things got really out of hand, really fast.

So what can we take away from this?
That you need to learn how a forum works before you try to make these lame, unsupported arguements over moderator rights.

~Death

Originally Posted by Mecheon

It is. Its just that sometimes we yell at each other. We're only human, you see

When that happens, we generally yell at each other more until the problem is solved

I tend to find shouting at each other works less effectively than discussing and, if at a stalemate with a decision needing to be made, an admin vote.

Originally Posted by Rising_Dusk

Really, if my points made here were unfounded, I wouldn't be making them.

Who makes points that they think aren't founded?

Originally Posted by Captain Griffen

I tend to find shouting at each other works less effectively than discussing and, if at a stalemate with a decision needing to be made, an admin vote.

Of course it's less effective, but you're making the horrible assumption that people are rational.

Originally Posted by PurplePoot

Of course it's less effective, but you're making the horrible assumption that people are rational.

Everyone is rational. It's the extent of rationalization combined with their grasp of reality and truths that people make horrible assumptions about.

And if moderators are not doing their jobs properly, then why are they still moderators? Out of desperation?

You people are silly.

In fact this whole thread is silly. If nothing useful is accomplished here in the next little while, I might close it so that it doesn't become the spamhole of every user's gripes with the staff.

Are you blind? Because of this thread, we now have admins and directors.

Well on this forum Maedh, Mods and Admins are the ones who actually have all of the power, so whether or not you dislike something a mod has done, there really isn't anything you can do except complain. Oh and also, if the Moderators did something, they probably had a reason.

Originally Posted by Gilles

Who makes points that they think aren't founded?

You're suggesting subjectivity, which doesn't have any bearing on what points I've made. Objectively, then, I find your claim moot. :)

Originally Posted by ~Void~

Why is it that so many map developers are such fucking douchebags? -.-'

It seems that most problems concerning closing or deletion of threads, negrep etc. come from the map makers?

Long story short its because they have a sense of accomplishment and superiority feed by their position as a moderator and from people appealing to their egos. Most boards have this problem. Unfortunately the Hive doesn't get rid of those mods like most other sites do.

You're a fucking tard.

He's talking about MAP MAKERS. NOT MODERATORS.

You're such a crybaby it's not even funny. You got slapped on the wrist, that was like a week ago! Get over it, you know, maybe grow up a bit, start abiding by the rules, etc, and then stop whining about the staff just because you can't take it.

Tru dat! some of teh users need to grow up! But the Mods also need to get their shit together! Work as a team, and not against each other... but im getting of topic (sry)

Anywayz, this thread is going Nowhere!