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View Poll Results: How effective is the Administration?
Very Effective 5 6.94%
Somewhat Effective 18 25.00%
Neutral 19 26.39%
Somewhat Ineffective 18 25.00%
Very Ineffective 12 16.67%
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:18 PM   #31 (permalink)
 
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Globals role is to kind of watch over everything and in the system of reports, forum moderators report to globals who report to admins.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:16 PM   #32 (permalink)
 
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The truth is that the higher up members forget their duties to the site on the lower end of things. Being an administrator requires you be a resource moderator in every resource section, being an administrator requires you moderate every forum and help everyone make their experience here as enjoyable as possible. Being a global moderator requires that you do everything for every lower area of the site. This doesn't happen, currently, rather the higher up members just hire new people to do the dirty work for them. That's a load of bollocks.

I have never seen a more disorganized and haphazard site as I have in the hive. Please take that I'm not insulting it in any way, but that this place needs a reform before it can even be considered a modding site as opposed to a WC3 MySpace (Look at the dumb profiles). If the hive wants to be taken seriously and not just be a safe haven for everyone that's too scared to go anywhere else, it needs to first start by redoing the entire staff.

I would take the current list of staff members and purge them all. Dedicate some admin with good and trustworthy judgment to reassign users to places based on qualifications and activity and dedication. God damnit, people, moderating a website is not a bloody job, it is a privilege. The moment you lose site of that, you are no longer qualified in the least to moderate the site on any level. There are a lot of strong users here and I'll be damned that yeah, I'm jealous that a lot of them choose to be here, but that's their choice. To squander such talent is blasphemy in the highest manner, treat the users here well by giving them a God damned staff worthy of their positions.

Man, you know, the hardest thing about lurking in the shadows here is that it pains me to see such talent wasted. There are so many strong users here and I'll be damned, if it were my call I'd treat them all like kings and queens for their qualifications. I only wish I wasn't the only one that thinks that way, the hive is more a slave-driven job for them than it is a place to have fun all things considered.
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The truth is that the higher up members forget their duties to the site on the lower end of things. Being an administrator requires you be a resource moderator in every resource section, being an administrator requires you moderate every forum and help everyone make their experience here as enjoyable as possible. Being a global moderator requires that you do everything for every lower area of the site. This doesn't happen, currently, rather the higher up members just hire new people to do the dirty work for them. That's a load of bollocks.

I have never seen a more disorganized and haphazard site as I have in the hive. Please take that I'm not insulting it in any way, but that this place needs a reform before it can even be considered a modding site as opposed to a WC3 MySpace (Look at the dumb profiles). If the hive wants to be taken seriously and not just be a safe haven for everyone that's too scared to go anywhere else, it needs to first start by redoing the entire staff.

I would take the current list of staff members and purge them all. Dedicate some admin with good and trustworthy judgment to reassign users to places based on qualifications and activity and dedication. God damnit, people, moderating a website is not a bloody job, it is a privilege. The moment you lose site of that, you are no longer qualified in the least to moderate the site on any level. There are a lot of strong users here and I'll be damned that yeah, I'm jealous that a lot of them choose to be here, but that's their choice. To squander such talent is blasphemy in the highest manner, treat the users here well by giving them a God damned staff worthy of their positions.

Man, you know, the hardest thing about lurking in the shadows here is that it pains me to see such talent wasted. There are so many strong users here and I'll be damned, if it were my call I'd treat them all like kings and queens for their qualifications. I only wish I wasn't the only one that thinks that way, the hive is more a slave-driven job for them than it is a place to have fun all things considered.
As I always say: "Truth hurts more than a lie".
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O.o wow......that was good, and very truthfull
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:31 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I stand at Neutral. Though the Admin team resolves many problems shortly after occuring, however sometimes it takes way too long. Whenever Wolve disappears, the user end of the site just goes to hell, with Ralle and DSG having to pick up the massive burden that Wolve leaves in his wake.

The Globals should be doing this job, but since Mecheon is the most active out of them all, and that's not saying much at all, they usually tend are no where to be found.

Now, the only reason I remain neutral is because we have two brand new Globals, which should hopefully help speed up the running of the site.

As long as they don't get perma-AFK like the other three.

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Very effective.

They solve many problems very quickly.

The only problem is the delay to get problems solved.
This is because of the limited # of admins.

[To solve this deadly problem I vote that we elect hawk900 as admin for life]

lol, just kidding.

I think that the admins do a great job in the upkeep of the site.

This is really my opnion. The admins do need to work abit more on being well "global"
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They solve many problems very quickly.

The only problem is the delay to get problems solved.
I never thought it was possible to contradict oneself in simply two lines of text.
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Its quick.....but its slow......

I think the translation is:

"They recognize the problems quickly but they take their time solving them."
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I think it's somewhat effective. Spammers get punished accordingly and lately models are moderated pretty fast. We got all the government we need, I only voted somewhat effective because nothing is perfect.
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Ok, that was an oximoron. I did not realise when I was typing.

What I mean is:

They solve them quiickly for their number.

Overall admin response could be faster though.
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Somewhat Ineffective.

This is not a complaint, however. If this were a question of whether or not I am satisfied with the administration, I would say "Adequate." Considering what a forum can be like, this poll aims at the upper portion of the spectrum.

I say Somewhat Ineffective because when someone posts porn, for example, very many people may see it before it is dealt with.
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I say Somewhat Ineffective because when someone posts porn, for example, very many people may see it before it is dealt with.
It depends on if a moderator is online, most of the time.

Also, how would you know if someone posted it when we deal with it right away?
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PurplePoot, that's the point of very effective administration. It's not enough to provide a safe site, you'll have to make people know that it's safe. If people don't know about that someone posted porn, that means the community is very good because the mods/admins keep the site clean, imply fair rules, and deal with everything fast.

EDIT: I think responding to spam at once is impossible. You'll need to have a mod watching every thread in every second.
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Which is why I don't expect to ever vote "Very Effective". :p
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Neutral.
There are 3 things i noticed being here on THW:
#1 Reputation:
Everyone whines about it and stuff. I mean - are users with higher reputation also higher in the hierarchy of this board? I hope not.
I personally laugh at users who set the knowledge of other users according to their reputation.
In my opinion, reputation is rather a thing which one should get for his/her work BUT NOT a scale for users.
As a result of that, people with higher reputation feel like they have more rights than others and they can blame newbies for (stupid) questions.
That is, in my eyes, not the result reputation was implemented, isn't it? (+)

#2 Administration
Being an administrator is a hell of work. So, active administrators have my full respect concerning site-management, server-upkeep, keeping all cats 'in form' and stuff.
As far as i know, the purpose of an administrator is on the one hand the things i wrote above, but on the other, an administrator also has to maintain the relation between himself and the 'normal' users and that means treat everybody the same and not thinking 'yeah, i'm the admin and you, folks, are lower-valued'. For heaven's sake, i did not notice such a thing here significally..
I know, having priviledges is a nice thing but once someone receives priviledges such as -rep, banning, ect.. this 'someone' must also care for his 'new" position, which leads to #3. (-)

#3 Managing a forum with such a huge diversity is a really unthankful job.
That's why god has given us moderators and global moderators. But it's always the same song, people get to tend to lay down on their position being a (global) moderator.
To have a maximum efficiency, this forum shall contain at least 7 global moderators and another 29 moderators -at least (one global for every category and a moderator for every subcategory) only for the board section, so resource-mods have to be recruited too.
So, who can get up the to manage his/her section (e.g. tutorials) day by day?
Few people, i suppose.. so, i think the so-called maximum of efficiency is VERY hard to reach (~)
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