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LiOneSS
09-20-2009, 02:37 PM
Okay, major fucking lore fuck up.
WHY IS THRALL BECOMING THE NEW GUARDIAN OF TIRISFAL WHEN IT IS CLEARLY MED'AN WHO SHOULD GET THE POSITION.
supertoinkz
09-20-2009, 02:39 PM
where did u get that news?
LiOneSS
09-20-2009, 03:01 PM
In the Cataclysm thread.
Silverfish423
09-20-2009, 04:15 PM
thrall is not going to become the guardian of tirisfal. he is going to be in the Council of Tirisfal helping to teach Med'an shamanism and empower him. No, Thrall is not going to become the Guardian.
OMonaxos
09-20-2009, 05:23 PM
Wut is dis shit?
takakenji
09-20-2009, 05:27 PM
stop looking at MMOChampion fanboy shit and please go to blizzcon/look at the official site.
www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/
anyways, thrall is not becoming the next guardian of tirisfal, so calm yourself and get from the official sources because they have said NOTHING of this.
Wolfe
09-21-2009, 04:50 AM
It is true, the new Guardian of Tirisfal will be Med'an. Med'an is also a quarter draenei, which means he will also undergo training in the holy arts (he will be mentored by Maraad). Not only that, but there will be a new Council of Tirisfal with Thrall, Maraad, Jaina, Aegwynn, Broll Bearmantle, Khadgar, Archdruid Hamuul Runetotem, Meryl Winterstorm, High Priest Rohan, Krank Axeljink and Rehgar Earthfury.
takakenji
09-21-2009, 04:54 AM
yes, members, not the guardian
Fussiler1
09-25-2009, 06:08 AM
Med'an?

Edit: Woah. ''Son of Garona Halforcen and Medivh.''
So.. so.. soooooo.... stupid..
takakenji
09-25-2009, 07:42 PM
Med'an?

Edit: Woah. speculated to be ''Son of Garona Halforcen and Medivh.''
So.. so.. soooooo.... stupid..

corrected
Silverfish423
09-27-2009, 10:26 PM
it is not stupid. medivh had a feeling for garona who was half draenei, so she looked more similar to humans than a full fledged 100% orc. and naturally, since med'an is the child of a guardian, he will have exeptional power, along with the potential to learn arcane, nature (druidic and shamanistic) and holy powers, not to mention any martial prowess he could gain through his adventures.
Pyritie
09-27-2009, 11:01 PM
Kinda unrelated, but is it just me or does this med'an person scream "Mary sue" to anyone?
LiOneSS
09-29-2009, 05:35 PM
Kinda unrelated, but is it just me or does this med'an person scream "Mary sue" to anyone?
totally.
Incarnation
10-01-2009, 02:12 PM
Mary sue? Im missing something and i dont like what it implies to the shattered, desecrated corpse of what was once a fully functioning backstory.
Andreja
10-01-2009, 09:50 PM
No such thing as WoW lore.
X.e.r.e.X
10-01-2009, 10:09 PM
WoW's lore has been screwed up looong time ago so why not just screw with it more?
Silverfish423
10-02-2009, 01:55 AM
how has WoW lore been screwed up? explain to me plz
Bigkoolal
10-03-2009, 02:34 AM
Lol I just noticed Gilneas weather look like England.
Pyritie
10-03-2009, 12:08 PM
Mary sue? Im missing something and i dont like what it implies to the shattered, desecrated corpse of what was once a fully functioning backstory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_sue
Wolfe
10-03-2009, 12:13 PM
Blizzard screws up the lore and then searches for answers or alters the lore to benefit their decisions.

For example, the Worgen. In some twisted way, they are the ancient allies of a secretive druidic society from back whenever. So all of a sudden they have just ADDED that bit of lore to justify why the Night Elves and Worgen are so close. What would've been logical is making the Emerald Flame (the enemy of the Worgen on their homeworld) the Nightmare from the Emerald Dream, hence affiliating the druids within the Emerald Dream with the original Worgen.
LiOneSS
10-03-2009, 12:35 PM
The Gilneas worgen are quite logical :P I'm happy Gilneas is in the game now <3
Wolfe
10-03-2009, 02:49 PM
The Gilnean Worgen have sense, but not the whole 'ancient night elven' mumbo jumbo. It's ridiculous. Why couldn't they involve Gilneas as a nation of Arathor rather than an ally of one of the world's oldest races. I mean, Gilneas once fought alongside Stormwind.
LiOneSS
10-03-2009, 05:07 PM
Gilneas=normal humans
there is something like a plague that turned them into worgen, the real worgen are allies of the NE
TheDivineBoss
10-04-2009, 01:53 PM
WoW lore is like milking a cow, and Blizzard squeezed it dry.

Motherfucking DRY.
Fussiler1
10-04-2009, 07:14 PM
I mean, Gilneas once fought alongside Stormwind.

Barely. Gilnean Troops never have fought alongside Lordaeron and the Alliance, they only pretended to be allies.



the real worgen are allies of the NE


Err, no. They only obeyed that Night Elf because she was the one who summoned them with the Glaive of Elune, but futhermore they have no relatons with the Night Elves.
Wolfe
10-06-2009, 09:08 AM
Wrong. The Gilnean Patrol were responsible for escorting mages from Dalaran to key locations, such as Jaina Proudmoore.
Fussiler1
10-07-2009, 05:16 AM
I don't think one patrol counts much, does it?
Wolfe
10-08-2009, 05:03 AM
Yes. It would matter. What would happen if bandits killed Jaina? Or Khadgar had been overrun by wolves BEFORE he could kill Medivh. Though you might doubt it, you really should think about what a mere patrol (which consisted of over 100 men) could do.
Andreja
10-10-2009, 08:10 AM
Yes. It would matter. What would happen if bandits killed Jaina? Or Khadgar had been overrun by wolves BEFORE he could kill Medivh. Though you might doubt it, you really should think about what a mere patrol (which consisted of over 100 men) could do.

'Cus totally two best mages can't kill wolves and bandits.
Wolfe
10-10-2009, 12:15 PM
Mages are the background of a battle and not the centre of attention. When overrun, they can't just go "boom" and eliminate everything around them. Think about it with logic. Just because they have talents doesn't mean they're invulnerable.
Bigkoolal
10-11-2009, 12:20 AM
Well, I moticed that Giving the Worgens to the Alliance is OK, but they should have make it with a realistic lore. Not some kind of Shitty druidic order or I don't know what.

Be logical: Worgens Are Gilneans poeples. Gilneas was part of the Alliance in the Second War. after, they were one of the powerfullest nation on Azeroth, and so, they isolated themselves. But, the Worgen Curse have Aflflicted them, and their now Worgens. so, Why adding a Druidic order in that? they could have rejoin the Alliance, because They needed the help of the Kingdom of Azeroth. that it. no night elves, no bullshit.
VeljkoM
10-11-2009, 11:28 AM
Well Gilineas was only on paper part of the Alliance. They haven't participated in Second War, they were keeping their armies in their nation. Then after Second war they completely left Alliance because they didn't approve orc camps idea and didn't want to give gold for that. Now when they are cursed they want help from their former allies.

How do druids and night elf fit here I have no idea. What does some old druidic order have to do with humans that never even saw night elves? But most WoW lore is like this so I can't say I am surprised or anything.
Bigkoolal
10-12-2009, 12:19 PM
all we can say is that this is Epic Bullshit all the way long.
Evillizard
01-03-2010, 02:21 AM
Druid of the Wolf?
Gilneas was a quite a part in the Second War (and if you noticed this like I did, in the orc mission where thrall must defeat three human bases one of them is "Gilneas (somethinsomethingIforgot)" . "It seemed The Alliance needed Gilneas more then Gilneas needed the alliance, so they shut the gates"
Just a quote, but Gilneas was quite a part in the Second War. Honestly the Worgen aren't that cool, they turn into worgen in combat and human out of the combat. :(
Now, what I think is more crap is why Blizzard needed to make the Island of Kezan when they had the Steamwheedles to help them. It doesn't make much sence. I still wish Blizzard had Ogres as the new horde race.