Temporary Buildings

Shendoo2 · Mar 4, 2009

Is there an ability that builds a building, that disipears after X seconds.

reza sword2 · Mar 4, 2009

Just give it an expiration timer?

Mage_Goo · Mar 4, 2009

How about pocket factory from tinker? just empty some area like spawn unit id, etc.

Anachron · Mar 4, 2009

Yeah, just use Unit - Add Expiration Timer

manstie · Mar 4, 2009

yea, but if you want it to show the ability than just make a random one that does nothing and make the tooltip "expires in 60 seconds" or something
and as reza said, give it an expiration timer

Joe-black-5 · Mar 4, 2009

event: a unit enter entire map (or something)

Condition: unit type of entering unit = to tower (for example)

action: add 30 sec experation time to last created building

reza sword2 · Mar 4, 2009

Joe-black-5 said:
event: a unit enter entire map (or something)

Condition: unit type of entering unit = to tower (for example)

action: add 30 sec experation time to last created building

Joe, you should know better lol. :wink:

Last created building does not refer to Entering unit. There's two ways in doing this.

One:

Events
- Unit - A unit enters (Playable map area)
Conditions
- (Unit-type of (Entering unit)) Equal to YourBuilding
Actions
- Unit - Add a 60.00 second Generic expiration timer to (Entering unit)

Advantages:
-A simple and basic thing. Not especially challenging to do.

Notes:
-I have doubts. Would the trigger runs if the structure is still in the process of construction? Or would it start after the structure is constructed?

Two:

Events
- Unit - A unit Finishes construction
Conditions
- (Unit-type of (Constructed structure)) Equal to YourBuilding
Actions
- Unit - Add a 60.00 second Generic expiration timer to (Constructed structure)

Advantages:
-This is fun. As you can refer back to the builder of the structure. Referring back to the builder is useful.

Notes:
-None. I've no doubts with this one. :grin:

Joe-black-5 · Mar 4, 2009

lol XD i know but it was a mistake because i was in a hurry

Slaydon · Mar 4, 2009

Hehe nice, but wouldnt he need to destroy the building? add

Wait 60 seconds
Kill YourBuilding or something

Anachron · Mar 4, 2009

Expiration means delayed destroy

Lord_of_sausage · Mar 4, 2009

If you want the blue bar to show up, give it the "Water Elemental" experiation timer. The field "Experiation Timer" can be cnahnged. There wont be any text showing up, though.

Omniferous · Mar 4, 2009

Lord_of_sausage said:
If you want the blue bar to show up, give it the "Water Elemental" experiation timer. The field "Experiation Timer" can be cnahnged. There wont be any text showing up, though.

If you instead add the expiration timer via a trigger (I'm fairly certain it can't be changed on the unit directly, as it is handled through the summon unit mechanic), you can select the text on the bar. The text can then be selected (the default one is generic, which has no text. You can alter the text of other options like Feral Spirit or Water Elemental via the interface editor).

Lord_of_sausage · Mar 4, 2009

Cool, i didn't knew that

Jerrin · Mar 4, 2009

Don't use enters map if you want the building to have a construction time, as the game would start the timer as soon as the construction started.

Events
- Unit - Unit finishes constructing
Conditions
- Unit-type comparison - Last constructed unit equal to (YourUnit)
Actions
- Unit - Add expiration timer to (Last constructed unit)

Omniferous · Mar 4, 2009

Jerrin said:
Don't use enters map if you want the building to have a construction time, as the game would start the timer as soon as the construction started.

Events

Unit - Unit finishes constructing

Conditions

Unit-type comparison - Last constructed unit equal to (YourUnit)

Actions

Unit - Add expiration timer to (Last constructed unit)

The action you want here is

Actions
- Unit - Add a 60.00 second Generic expiration timer to (Constructed structure)

There's no 'Last constructed unit', but there is a 'last created unit' and 'constructing structure', both of which are incorrect.

reza sword2 · Mar 4, 2009

Jerrin said:
Don't use enters map if you want the building to have a construction time, as the game would start the timer as soon as the construction started.

Events

Unit - Unit finishes constructing

Conditions

Unit-type comparison - Last constructed unit equal to (YourUnit)

Actions

Unit - Add expiration timer to (Last constructed unit)

Yeah I had doubts with the entering thingy.

Shendoo2 · Mar 4, 2009

Thats good and all but im trying to do it with a item.. And i want the player to have to select where they want to build the building.

reza sword2 · Mar 5, 2009

Shendoo2 said:
Thats good and all but im trying to do it with a item.. And i want the player to have to select where they want to build the building.

Why didn't you say at the start? There are default items that can make buildings.

Try to create your item base on the item Tiny Castle.

Modify the item's ability. Make it so it builds your building.

Then maybe implement the entering unit trigger. Am I right?

Jerrin · Mar 5, 2009

Except for the entering unit part, as there's still a construction time in play with the tiny buildings.

reza sword2 · Mar 5, 2009

Jerrin said:
Except for the entering unit part, as there's still a construction time in play with the tiny buildings.

Then what? Maybe make the construction time to something near-instant?

reza sword2 · Mar 5, 2009

Jerrin said:
Except for the entering unit part, as there's still a construction time in play with the tiny buildings.

Then what? Maybe make the construction time to something near-instant?

Lord_of_sausage · Mar 5, 2009

I think a unit finishes construction will work here.

reza sword2 · Mar 5, 2009

OMG. My so great internet connection has made me double-post. Can some mod please delete the latter post?

Meh. I don't think it works. Because no unit is actually constructing it. Don't know.

Lord_of_sausage · Mar 5, 2009

Unit finishes construction is refering to the building, not unit.

and since the building has a construction time, i see no reason why it shouldn't work.

reza sword2 · Mar 5, 2009

I think there are two things Unit finishes construction refer two. One is the unit constructing it. Two the building constructed. So I can't see how it should work with just the constructed building as there's no unit constructing it. But again, this is just some of my logic. Might be wrong.

Lord_of_sausage · Mar 5, 2009

Construction
Events
- Unit - A unit finishes construction
Conditions
Actions
- Game - Display to (all players) (Name of (triggering unit))

Will return the name of the building.

I3obo · Mar 5, 2009

It's simple:
Like already said, just use the tiny castle item and change its ability,
so it spawns whatever you like.
Then make a trigger like this (also posted already):

Construction
Events
- Unit - A unit finishes construction
Conditions
- Unit-Type comparison - Unit-Type of (Constructed Unit) equal to (Your Unit)
Actions
- Unit - Add a 60.00 second Generic expiration timer to (Constructed structure)

I don't want to repeat what is already said, it's just like a summary including the final solution.
By the way, expiration timers on buildings aren't displayed at all.

~I3obo~

s4nji · Mar 5, 2009

Simple... Just Use INFERNAL skill..., there will be timed life... no need for triggers except the building must be placed correctly...

Jerrin · Mar 5, 2009

s4nji said:
Simple... Just Use INFERNAL skill..., there will be timed life... no need for triggers except the building must be placed correctly...

.. Oh yeah. That would actually be the simplest thing to do.

Lord_of_sausage · Mar 5, 2009

Not if he want's construction time.

DeathWind · Mar 5, 2009

Well, if you don't want the expiration timer with it's ugly blue bar just make your trigger wait x seconds and then destroy/remove (whichever seems better) the unit. The same names targets etc can still be used.

Lord_of_sausage · Mar 5, 2009

DONT use waits! Use experiation timers. Wait is BAD.

DeathWind · Mar 5, 2009

Expiration timers are ugly. Or you can start a random timer also instead of wait.

Lord_of_sausage · Mar 5, 2009

Experiaton timers doesn't show up. Theres no blue bar, if you use "Generic Timer".

DeathWind · Mar 5, 2009

Who wants to see an ugly bar?

That's just if you DON'T want to see one.

I3obo · Mar 5, 2009

Guys, please!
Why aren't you testing, what you are talking about?

@Lord of Sausages:
It does show up, even if you use "Generic Timer" (on units).

@Deathwind:
Like I already mentioned, an expiration timer won't show up on buildings.

~I3obo~

Shendoo2 · Mar 5, 2009

Lol i got it. The construction time didn't work because of i had it build a building, I had to have it as a unit with no movement and no turn rate. Thanks to everyone that helped . I would +rep but i can't +rep to everyone. And everyone helped.

DeathWind · Mar 6, 2009

I3obo said:
@Deathwind:
Like I already mentioned, an expiration timer won't show up on buildings.

~I3obo~

It actually does show if it's correctly added, tested myself.

manstie · Mar 6, 2009

Shendoo2 said:
Lol i got it. The construction time didn't work because of i had it build a building, I had to have it as a unit with no movement and no turn rate. Thanks to everyone that helped . I would +rep but i can't +rep to everyone . And everyone helped .

OMG YOU MAKE ME LAUGH SO MUCH!!!
For every post that you do on others, you say +rep if helped
but now your saying that you wont rep us.
You are such a 1 way person :slp:

And your so funny, in a non ha ha way... :hohum:

DeathWind · Mar 6, 2009

manstie said:
OMG YOU MAKE ME LAUGH SO MUCH!!!
For every post that you do on others, you say +rep if helped
but now your saying that you wont rep us.
You are such a 1 way person
And your so funny, in a non ha ha way...

I believe we all agree. Even I.

Shendoo2 · Mar 8, 2009

... Ill rep you guys.. You guys diverse it with the 40 posts for this quest.

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