Mini-mapping Contest #9 - Map Size Limited

[Heinvers]

It's a pain in the ass. I played before maps using that system, it's hard to even make a move imo. Let's hope genin's will use a better one.

 

[A Void]

Now that's a sight. What kind of game will it be?

It will be a space-exploration mystery horror game. Everything will be story related, I wont spoil anything else.

Yes it will use keyboard system, since it is in cinematic mode essentially. Action keys will include; ESC, Spacebar, Left Arrow, Right Arrow, Up Arrow and Down Arrow. There is also a tool among the community that can change arrow keys into WASD buttons.

 

[rulerofiron99]

I have decided to redo my contest entry, here is my first new WIP;

WIP 1

Oh my.

Not even the prospect of arrow keys is making me dislike this so far.

While I'm a very vocal opponent of arrow keys, I think it can work in this map - depending on how quick the gameplay is.

If it's a fast-paced dogfighting game, it will be terrible. If it's a slower, more RPG-like experience, then it I think it could be very good.

There is also a tool among the community that can change arrow keys into WASD buttons.

The main problem with arrow keys is the input delay. The position of the arrow keys is just a minor annoyance. The input delay makes maps completely unplayable on battle.net, and even offline there's a huge loss of precision and reaction time.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

I have decided to redo my contest entry, here is my first new WIP;

WIP 1

Can't believe my eyes ^^ Reminds me of Illidan(Evil)X's space shooter project for sc2

 

[frettory]

Main map structure done. Mortars (which act more like rockets) are pretty much done.

Sneak peek:

Mortar

NOTE: iseedeadpeople is enabled.

 

[A Void]

My second new WIP, this one shows-off brand new main menu;

WIP 2

 

[Heinvers]

It looks like a new game.

 

[A Void]

It looks like a new game.

Thanks!

 

[TheWhiteWolf]

My fullscreen menu is done... Gonna use the remaining time for bug fixes, balancing and item creation. If there is an extension, I will make brand new detailed models for my menu to raise the aesthetic bar in my map

 

[rulerofiron99]

Intro cinematic added. I'll upload after the ending cinematics (victory & defeat) and some more playtesting.

I can probably get it done by the deadline, but an extension will allow me to add more content (waves, abilities, items) and maybe even other game modes.

 

[Frotty]

So any news on the deadline extension?

 

[Galles]

My Final Entry

This is my final entry for the contest. I hope you've been good !
PLAY HARD

Map Type: Single Player
Objective: When you start the game everything is explained
Credits: All credit information and just press F9 in game

 

[rulerofiron99]

This is my final entry for the contest. I hope you've been good !
PLAY HARD

Map Type: Single Player
Objective: When you start the game everything is explained
Credits: All credit information and just press F9 in game

- The starting camera has a gigantic pillar in the way. You could chop the pillar model in half, and add a system that hides the top half when the camera is in certain positions. Same issue with the walls at the bottom.
- Slam hotkey isn't Q. Tooltip's text colour is impossible to read when it goes dark grey.
- Blue ground tiles contrast badly with the red/orange walls.
- Slam's knockback duration is long and awkward. Knockback is also applied to dead units.
- Zombie disease cloud blocks movement. Not sure if this was intentional.
- When the boss cast mirror image near the top wall, the illusion spawned inside the wall. It's possible for the boss to get trapped outside like this.

 

[frettory]

Technically my entry is done, but I kind of want to add more items/gamemodes.

It is a game involving firing mortars directly at your target without considering arcing and stuff.

Play with 2 or more players. The more the merrier!

View attachment Mortar.w3x

 

[rulerofiron99]

Technically my entry is done, but I kind of want to add more items/gamemodes.

It is a game involving firing mortars directly at your target without considering arcing and stuff.

Play with 2 or more players. The more the merrier!

View attachment 136146

Fired some mortars and fatal'd after a few seconds. Vision range is also extremely small, removing the aspect of aiming or dodging.

 

[frettory]

Fired some mortars and fatal'd after a few seconds. Vision range is also extremely small, removing the aspect of aiming or dodging.

There should be some 'vision tower items' scattered around the map. Keep searching.

Vision is a huge theme/resource in this map. There is an item that causes your mortars to reveal the area where they explode.

It is kind of like Pudge Wars in a way. You have to guess and hopefully get something that provides you with some visual information.

Mortars are pretty slow too unless you get the Mortarocket upgrade.

Oh, and don't kill yourself with your own mortar. Lol. They have a pretty big blast range.

Though you have a point: I better increase the vision range slightly.

 

[rulerofiron99]

I get that vision limitation can be a big theme and allow for other cool features, but allow me to share my experience in a map I made, Mortar Run (in my sig). All players have vision of the whole map. On the surface, it's a simple case of firing your mortar at a location, taking into account the distance. However, the target knows that you are trying to destroy him, so he'll actively try to avoid running in a straight line to dodge your attacks. After firing some mortars, you catch on to his strategy, and start to adjust your aim based on his dodging behaviour. This way, the game's main theme becomes a mental game between you and your opponent with a lot of bluffing and feinting involved.

When you have no vision, all you can do is fire mortars in random directions and hope for the best.

Btw, what I meant was that the game crashed with a fatal error.

 

[frettory]

Btw, what I meant was that the game crashed with a fatal error.

Not sure why it does that. The only JASS in my map are anti-leaks.

 

[rulerofiron99]

Busy looking through your triggers.

First issue (probably not the fatal problem):

• Explode Mortars
  • Actions
    • Set tempgroup[0] = (Units owned by (Owner of (Casting unit)) of type Mortar)
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in tempgroup[0] and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Unit - Kill (Picked unit)
        • Wait 0.50 seconds
        • Unit - Remove (Picked unit) from the game
    • Custom script: call DestroyGroup(udg_tempgroup[0])

The trigger won't remember what (picked unit) is after 0.5 seconds, and this will also leak the group.

You have a similar problem in the Projectile End trigger.

EDIT: You can replace your projectile end trigger with a nice and dirty fix: when you fire a mortar, add an expiration timer to it based on the distance to the target. Have the mortar explode trigger go off then a mortar dies.
So, if the distance to the target is 500 and your mortar speed is 100, you set the expiration timer to 5 seconds.

 

[frettory]

EDIT: You can replace your projectile end trigger with a nice and dirty fix: when you fire a mortar, add an expiration timer to it based on the distance to the target. Have the mortar explode trigger go off then a mortar dies.
So, if the distance to the target is 500 and your mortar speed is 100, you set the expiration timer to 5 seconds.

Except that it will break the 'Explode Mortars' spell.


EDIT: I'm out.

 

[GywGod133]

@frettory
Set tempgroup[0] = (Units owned by (Owner of (Casting unit)) of type Mortar)
Unit Group - Pick every unit in tempgroup[0] and do (Actions)
Loop - Actions
Unit - Kill (Picked unit)
Wait 0.50 seconds
Unit - Remove (Picked unit) from the game
Custom script: call DestroyGroup(udg_tempgroup[0])

Use MUI Function instead using wait

@rulerofiron99
can you explain why this trigger have leak?
IDK, maybe the wait action

 

[frettory]

I think I got most of the leaks.

View attachment Mortar.w3x

 

[rulerofiron99]

@rulerofiron99
can you explain why this trigger have leak?
IDK, maybe the wait action

The trigger runs every 0.07 seconds.

In the first iteration (0.00), the group is set, and the wait will cause it to destroy the group at (0.50).
However, the second iteration at (0.07) sets the group variable again, before the previous iteration has been destroyed. Now you have two group variables, and only one will be removed - after another 6 loops.

Once the first 7 iterations are done, it will stop leaking, since the group is destroyed as frequently as it is created. However, now we have the variable being destroyed before it is finished being used, which brings other problems.

As I said previously, it would be much simpler to just add an expiration timer, and redo the explosion trigger to go off on death.

 

[GywGod133]

@rulerofiron99
oh new knowledge in GUI
Thanks for that

 

[Solu9]

Small update video of Stage 14. Jump Pads have been introduced. Now the players must not only time the run over the Fire Blasts, but also the initial jump.

 

[A Void]

My second main menu attempt, made it a little better:

Wip 3

 

[Galles]

- The starting camera has a gigantic pillar in the way. You could chop the pillar model in half, and add a system that hides the top half when the camera is in certain positions. Same issue with the walls at the bottom.
- Slam hotkey isn't Q. Tooltip's text colour is impossible to read when it goes dark grey.
- Blue ground tiles contrast badly with the red/orange walls.
- Slam's knockback duration is long and awkward. Knockback is also applied to dead units.
- Zombie disease cloud blocks movement. Not sure if this was intentional.
- When the boss cast mirror image near the top wall, the illusion spawned inside the wall. It's possible for the boss to get trapped outside like this.

As I have not seen these bugs before, but now no longer because of the longer time step to deliver projects ready ...

 

[TheWhiteWolf]

I finally finished the full-screen, and it looks pretty appealing :3
After I add some items, I will upload my final entry

 

[Heinvers]

That's great news^^

 

[TheWhiteWolf]

My second main menu attempt, made it a little better:

Wip 3

Amazing... *_*



Judges, will there be an extension?

 

[Galles]

If an extension I will enhance my final entry

 

[rulerofiron99]

Defeat & victory conditions and cinematics added. Goblins are now also throwable. Tomorrow will be playtesting!

 

[Daffa]

For extensions, I cannot grant any guarantees for this, I will let Eubz decide, as he's the one who make the contest and host it.

 

[BlackKnightTGS]

My second main menu attempt, made it a little better:

Wip 3

Wow, amazing. I would think that'd be a standalone game than a WC3 map if I saw it anywhere else, save for the cursor being a giveaway.

 

[Shadow Fury]

My second main menu attempt, made it a little better:

Wip 3

Wow this is not warcraft's style at all!
Anyway, I hope there will be an extension because my map still misses some important stuff.

 

[A Void]

I have some news about my entry, Blood Raven is writing the storyline, DivineArms will be a voice talent to narrate various entity's. The soundtrack is also in progress, high quality music to keep you in touch with the whole atmosphere.

 

[GreeN!X]

Blood Raven is writing the storyline.

Ain't that team work? :/

 

[A Void]

Ain't that team work? :/

Not really, since it has nothing to do with the map editing. Nor anything with creating a map.

 

[Solu9]

9. Teamwork is not allowed.
Finding testers and voice actors to help you with your submission is not considered teamwork.

He is actually allowed to use a voice actor. I can only assume story writing is the same.

 

[Heinvers]

Yes, it is.

 

[Solu9]

The lack of communication on a possible deadline extension, and the fact that I am going to have a busy next week, makes me exit the contest.
Good luck to you all!

 

[Guramax]

My Final Entry

The Pandaren Tavern
Just relax and have a beer...
I'll put it on your tab! Hahaha!!


This will be my final entry..,
My second WIP of this map is in page 35 of this thread..,
There are so many good map makers here so I'm a bit down..,
hahaha..,
nevertheless I am hoping for this contest to end nicely..,
Good luck to all!!!

 

[A Void]

Planet Landscape from my entry, uses 2000 x 2000 Tiles.

WIP Landscape 1

 

[Heinvers]

So it's a model that sticks to the ground?

 

[A Void]

So it's a model that sticks to the ground?

Yes.

 

[TheWhiteWolf]

I'm a bit confused, is that a triggered image/triggered ubersplat or a model with a ubersplat attached to it?

 

[A Void]

I'm a bit confused, is that a triggered image/triggered ubersplat or a model with a ubersplat attached to it?

What?

 

[rulerofiron99]

I'm a bit confused, is that a triggered image/triggered ubersplat or a model with a ubersplat attached to it?

It's just a model.

EDIT:

It could also be regular terrain with terrain tile changes, using alpha tile for when in space.

 

[TheWhiteWolf]

What?

You can code an image or an ubersplatt to appear over an area (something like the cracked ground after thunderclap). Also, you can add an ubersplatt to a model (e.g. footprints).

Is there a third method to project a high definition tile over a non-flat terrain?

 

[A Void]

You can code an image or an ubersplatt to appear over an area (something like the cracked ground after thunderclap). Also, you can add an ubersplatt to a model (e.g. footprints).

Is there a third method to project a high definition tile over a non-flat terrain?

Sorry, I don't think so. This is a model of already build-in terrain as an .mdx file. I still have to add walkable/ un-walkable path via other methods.